Brenham 2.0 Medium Tight Top

I’ll try to keep this brief and not lay out a novel. Currently my partner and I have a king Simmons Beautyrest Hybrid Pillow Top Plush which is about 5 years old. I’m 175lbs and 90% stomach, 10% side sleeper. She is 135lbs and about 50/50 side/back sleeper. The Simmons has been a great bed and even though it’s a plush, it seems equally as firm as some mediums we have tried out recently. We are both pretty active, no predisposed aches/pains, but haven’t been diligent in rotating our mattress so there’s some impressions in the mattress that have developed. That’s on us. Current frame and box springs are solid, so we will be looking at just a mattress purchase. So far we have made one trip to a furniture store and tried out: \- Sealy Ellie Lane EPT Medium - front runner so far (worried about durability due to price point, TBH) \- Sterns & Foster Estate Medium TT - runner up \- Sterns & Foster Lux Estate Firm EPT - initial comfort isn’t much better/different than above two options, although I wonder if durability will be better due to price/debsity \- Purple - not a huge fan \- Termpur Pedic - not a huge fan \- Dream Cloud - not a huge fan Full memory foams aren’t our preference, and we plan to go check out some nicer Beautyrest options as well as other options today. Any suggestions on what to check out? Update: post shopping today - we really liked the Beautyrest Black series one medium tight top. Update 2: the Sealy Elite medium tight top was also a top contender. We also became adjustable base fans. Update 3: [made a purchase](https://www.reddit.com/r/Mattress/s/U0PbNPDAD1)

The Sealy Elite TT in medium is what we believe to have settled on. We ruled out the hybrids and pillow tops during our search. I appreciate the insight!

Get an innerspring mattress with a nice comfort layer. Go to mattress stores and try out mattresses. Then buy one during an upcoming sale. I’m 5’3”, 200 lbs for reference. I finally found one I like at Mattress Firm. Sealy Posturepedic Elite Brenham 2 Medium tight top. I’m a side and back sleeper.

Which Sealy PP did you get? I’m a side and back sleeper. I got the Sealy PP Elite Brenham 2 tight top medium and love it. The Elite hybrid series had too much foam for me.

I’ve had my Dreamcloud Classic Hybrid for 3 years now, and exclusively sleep on my side. I'm 31F, 165lb, and short. I’ve slept on all locations of the mattress from side to side including flipping it and every spot ends up “wearing out”, dipping at the hips after several months, and causing my hips to hurt while sleeping (not large enough dips for the warranty).  I also discovered that my Pottery Barn bedframe has slats positioned 4+ inches apart, so will need to get a Bunky Board or more slats before I get the next one. I LOVE the overall softness balance of this topping of this mattress and its body's general firmness. I want to get a mattress with similar medium to medium-firm feel, and am particular about the topping feeling - I love the gel infused memory foam that’s tufted/quilted (don’t like latex or pure memory foam toppings that are just like a slab of memory foam). Wouldn’t mind cooling properties but it’s not a must. I'm thinking I'll need zoned lumbar support to prevent from the next one wearing out at the middle again. I tried the Sealy Posturepedic Elite Brenham II 15” medium in store and liked it but didn’t like it as much as Dream cloud. I then tried the Dreamcloud Pressuresmart Plush Pillow Top (which is more of a medium) and LOVED it, but feel like I would be crazy to get another Dreamcloud after having issues with this one only 3 years in. Anyone else have a similar predicament and find a good Queen bed replacement, (ideally $2k and under but will entertain higher if it’s spectacular)?

exact one i am laying on rn (brenham ii medium quilt top, i've always had plush mattresses), i've had it for like two months now and my back and hip pain is about as low as i can really expect w chronic pain.

Just understand that in Sealy language, certain titles mean certain things. For instance anything in the elite series has their best support coil system and it's multi zoned. Those are good things. What you want to consider though is the different types of elites as that will mean a different feel in the top layers. The Hybrid top from Sealy is very thick layers of memory foam and it will sink in and feel like it kind of wraps around you a bit. Some people like that, I hate it. The Euro tops you have experienced and are a bit more cushion but can sleep warmer and the top tends to be the first point of failure after some years. Personally, I like the quilt tops much better. They still have some foam at the top but not nearly as much memory foam, you don't sink in as much but you can still get medium feel instead of firm. Overall I think the elite series from Sealy are really solid choice...just pick the right firmness and the right type of top (Hybrid, Euro, and quilt) This would be my choice at Mattress Warehouse. Sealy Posturepedic® Elite Brenham Medium Mattress · Mattress Warehouse https://share.google/fdjZ2F4keAbKxeWqq Good luck

I will just add that the two mattresses that were mentioned by dark night (Thermobalance Elite and Helix Plus Elite) both are made by 3Z in the USA and have the unique feature of being able to swap only the comfort layer on the top which is really nice. I think either one of these two would be great. As far as the big brands, while I agree with the assessment on the BR, I actually think that the Sealy Elite line (Spring series) are also very good mattresses. Those are the three I would lean towards.

Sealy Elite Spring series are a good series and have a great coil system for support. You are light enough that the pillowtop may not compress/fail but I tend to go for straight quilt top mattresses. Brenham II is made in quilt top & pillowtop so you could do either.

Mattresses are so subjective and every person is different. I can tell you I had a 6 month journey, visited at least 6 mattress stores and some of them 4 times. I had a top 5 list which included: Helix Elite Twilight Sealy Elite Brenham or Albany King Koil Natural line Sterns Lux Estate Then I went to a local store that is not a national brand and the salesman there listened to me and steered me to a brand I had not seen in the other stores - Diamond. Specifically the Black Diamond line. It was nice because it looked and felt the same quality as the others was $800 fell in the priceline of the middle of the others. I bought it and have only been on it for about 37 days. It was definitely firmer but has just started feeling a bit more like the showroom model. My wife and I just talked last night again about exchanging for a medium model but we both agreed that either our bodies are starting to adjust or it's getting better...we aren't sure yet. It's not perfect yet but definitely better. We love the looks and quality materials, it just exudes premium. We don't like the deep sink in and get trapped feeling of memory foam so we opted for the Luxury Quilt top model instead of the Hybrid Top model. We also opted for the Firm retail version called the Vail and if we exchange it will be for the same company and line but the medium model called the whistler. Really nice product. If you can find the Black Diamond in a store it will be an order and build and it will have their best coil system as opposed to the online version which is not different coil system. Retail version are not rolled and boxed they are delivered flat so they can put their strongest coils in them. All the mattresses I listed felt very premium and had quality materials. Sealy Elite has a great coil system, Helix Elite has incredible foams (8lb and 5lb) and the King Koil with its latex layers and micro coils was awesome. Good luck...

BeautyRest World Class series which is actually my preferred series in their line as it's higher quality than the two lines below it and doesn't seem to have as many QA issues as the Black series above it has. I think this line is solid. (Series 3 or 4) Sealy - as long as you stick with the Pro or Elite line there, you will get Sealy's best coil system and you can choose what kind of comfort layer you want (plush, medium, firm) and the top layer format (hybrid, quilt, euro). That would also be a solid choice. (I would choose an Elite Series) Sterns - I like their Lux Estate models and again you can choose your comfort layer and top format. Helix - Gets a lot of love in the community and specifically they make a lot of models that are designed for the different sleeper positions. I would consider their luxe models for a bit more comfort over the core models. An example of how much they offer is if you want a luxe model that is Firm, they make one for side sleepers and one for back sleepers...the difference is they simply replace one layer of foam with another or swap those layer orders. Helix makes an Elite line and if I were to buy one it would be one of those...not because the comfort layer is thicker or it has micro coils and foam, but for the flexibility of the comfort layer swap. The entire comfort layer (several layers) is encased in a cotton cover that simply slips into the Top cover. You can swap just that layer later when your needs change for much less than buying a new mattress. Start off with Helix Midnight Elite and feel you need it firmer? Just have them send you a Dawn or Twilight comfort layer and swap it. Pretty convenient. Diamond - Ultimately my wife & I choose the "Black Diamond" series from Diamond Mattress. It had everything we wanted (just enough give on the top layer without being soft, a good coil support system and cooling features. We bought the Black Diamond Vail (Lux Hybrid Quilt Top in Firm). If we dont like it (Not here yet), The Helix Twilight Elite is my next go to. Good luck!!

Run down to your Mattress store and lay on some Sealy Pro or Elite series mattresses. They have one of the best coil support systems. The Elite will have more/thicker foam and some cooling tech, but if it's out of budget grab a Pro series. I recommend medium firmness, spring series, Pro or elite line, and quilt top. Half the price of previous recommendation.

Look here: What makes a "Pro" a "Pro" - [https://www.sealy.com/sealy-posturepedic-collection/](https://www.sealy.com/sealy-posturepedic-collection/) If you have the materials and specs of a "Pro" you can be a "Pro" However, you can change how many layers or the density of the layers outside of those requirements to meet a price point. Comparison (You will notice a 1" difference in the mattress heights): [https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-15-medium-euro-top-mattress/5637547470.p?variantid=5637548310](https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-15-medium-euro-top-mattress/5637547470.p?variantid=5637548310) [https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-14-medium-mattress/5637547462.p?variantid=5637548262](https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-14-medium-mattress/5637547462.p?variantid=5637548262) [https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-highland-manor-13-medium-mattress/4000363508?langId=-1](https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-highland-manor-13-medium-mattress/4000363508?langId=-1) [https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-lincoln-heights-14-firm-or-plush-mattress/4000383457?langId=-1](https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-lincoln-heights-14-firm-or-plush-mattress/4000383457?langId=-1)

Which Sealy Model? The retail pro and elite versions do very well and don't get returned often at all due to the incredible coil system they use. I definitely do not recommend soft mattresses. Both of my contacts at different stores have a lot of returns on Serta, BR and Purple, hardly ever on Elite and Pro series Sealy. Don't sell as many King Koil but very few returns on those as well. Bear in mind things like "Costco" versions are not the same. They are manufactured using cost cutting measures to meet a price point. (Less foam, etc..)

Sorry you went through this. I think probably your biggest mistake was getting the hybrid series of Sealy Elite as they have those thick flat memory foam tops that sink in and trap you and your heat. I hate memory foam mattresses for that reason. The Sealy Elite spring series are more traditional foam over coil and don't sleep nearly as hot or sink in like that. If you do ever try another mattress purchase look for traditional foam over coil with quilt tops. Like a Sealy Elite Brenham II or literally any model that is not thick layers of memory foam on the top. You said you were in MD, I am in PA and I can't say enough about the crew at Gardners Mattress and More in Lancaster, PA. Great store, great owners that are very involved in their community, run a podcast, wrote 2 books on sleep, etc. They carry a bunch of brands with plenty of floor models. Drew was my rep and was great. Good luck and stay away from memory foam :)