Brenham II 16" Medium Euro Top

So when I had the soft hybrid high point it was so soft and squishy it was miserable and I love soft beds. I lasted as long as I could with it but hated it and gave it to my mom because she loved it. I went out and bought the Brenham medium pillow too because my salesman told me they didn’t make it in soft, that had been a fight on its own because they do make it soft but won’t take the responsibility for not telling me the truth. Anyways my question is, do you think the soft pillow top instead of the medium will give me that cloud feeling unlike the high point did because that one made me feel like I was drowning lol

We ended up buying a King Koil medium pillow top. It felt comfortable in the store, but after sleeping on it for a month, we’re looking to upgrade to the Sealy Bentham Euro Top. It’s not a hybrid, but there is a thin layer of memory foam in the pillow top of the mattress, much like our old mattress, which I loved.

I’m sorry you’re having a lousy experience with it! We ended up playing it safe with a Sealy Posturpedic pillow top that has memory foam in the pillow top. Our previous mattress lasted us over 20 years & it had the same features. We’re very happy with it.

It’s a Sealy Posturepedic Elite Brenham Medium Euro PillowTop Mattress. Nine months in & love it.

High point has more pressure relieving material and phase change material which makes it better at cooling. The brenham the EPT quilted top medium is just a phenomenal feeling bed and has done fantastic with us and although the High point outsells it I would say listen to your body and if you like the medium pillow top I doubt you are going to be blown away by the firm high point. I haven’t seen any Brenham Medium Pillowtops come back on happiness exchange which tells me the in home experience matches the in store pretty well of course you still have break in to get through. As far as long term it’s far to early to tell but I never had long term issues with previous models of similar Sealy mattress

No they are not the same the brenham pillowtop is designed to feel more like a traditional bed vs the high point is designed to feel like a foam bed they have completely different feels you shouldn’t experience the same slow sinking in contouring feeling

tomorrow is when I get mine delivered (checking out reviews/info after purchasing so I didn't go in with preconceptions) but I also sleep heavy, have a ton of back pain, and toss and turn. something has to be better than my 8 year old mattress at this point. 

I did get the brenham 2, quilted/pillow top medium. I am kind of surprised I didn't end up in something softer, but it has been great. in general my sleep has been better and I no longer have hip pain which is nice. my back pain is going to happen no matter what, but in general it's better than it was. i am still used to a smaller and more worn out mattress, so that support has been nice. it has been kind of annoying trying to get sheets with a big enough space for how tall the mattress is, and I didn't really factor in getting new sheets when getting a larger mattress. I wish I didn't get ~$100 full sheets a couple months ago. 

exact one i am laying on rn (brenham ii medium quilt top, i've always had plush mattresses), i've had it for like two months now and my back and hip pain is about as low as i can really expect w chronic pain.

i know there are cooling mattresses, cooling mattress toppers, but i'll also mention cooling sheets. best sheets i ever got, that i actually had to switch out for jersey sheets in winter, were sijo eucalyptus sheets. i've seen very similar sheets on amazon, but not the same quality. they almost made me too cold, they were so breathable and cooling. natural fibers and even wool can help with temperature regulation. idk what kind of mattress you are looking for, but i recently got a sealy posturepedic elite brenham II and the quilted top is really damn comfy and plush even at medium firmness, and it's really breathable.

I liked the Albany and Brenham in the Sealy elite series when I tried them

The Elite series of Sealy firm are all the same core (Sealy's best coils) but differ only in their tops and feels on those tops. Highpoint - Tempur type sink in. Albany - Quilt top with just enough cushion. Brenham - Eurotop with a bit more cushion. All share the really good Sealy Elite support system.

Sealy by far. The elite series has incredible coil support system and going up to the highpoint level gets you phase change material as well as the cooling cover. It should be noted that you will get a significant amount of sinking into the mattress feeling with the amount of memory foam...some like that and some don't. You could look at the Brenham II models in medium and you might like that as well...same incredible support system. Either way, the entire line is really good

I will just add that the two mattresses that were mentioned by dark night (Thermobalance Elite and Helix Plus Elite) both are made by 3Z in the USA and have the unique feature of being able to swap only the comfort layer on the top which is really nice. I think either one of these two would be great. As far as the big brands, while I agree with the assessment on the BR, I actually think that the Sealy Elite line (Spring series) are also very good mattresses. Those are the three I would lean towards.

Sealy Elite Spring series are a good series and have a great coil system for support. You are light enough that the pillowtop may not compress/fail but I tend to go for straight quilt top mattresses. Brenham II is made in quilt top & pillowtop so you could do either.

You can select any mattress with a good coil support system (preferably zoned) and then get whatever comfort layer you want on top. The top comfort layers can be one of three designs (Quilt, Euro, or Hybrid) and that will determine the thickness and types of foams you get as well as the density. While this applies to most foam over coil mattresses, I will just use Sealy as an example. Their PRO and elite lines use their best coil system. Let's just use elite for example... You can get a Sealy elite in all three configs for the comfort layer. I would stay with their firm choice and try all three top types. (Ie: Albany II or Brenham II)... The Euro top will give you a thicker layer of non memory foam for cushion, the quilt top a bit less and the hybrid top will be a thick layer of memory foam (my least favorite). Good luck!

The Sealy Elite series are my top choice in the Sealy series (Pro series as well if you want to save a few bucks). These two lines carry Sealy's best and most supportive coil support system. I personally prefer Firm (Albany II) but my wife would go for the Brenham II all day long. All in all if I bought Sealy, I would choose this mattress line all day. I think it's a great choice if he likes it and should be good for years to come.

BeautyRest World Class series which is actually my preferred series in their line as it's higher quality than the two lines below it and doesn't seem to have as many QA issues as the Black series above it has. I think this line is solid. (Series 3 or 4) Sealy - as long as you stick with the Pro or Elite line there, you will get Sealy's best coil system and you can choose what kind of comfort layer you want (plush, medium, firm) and the top layer format (hybrid, quilt, euro). That would also be a solid choice. (I would choose an Elite Series) Sterns - I like their Lux Estate models and again you can choose your comfort layer and top format. Helix - Gets a lot of love in the community and specifically they make a lot of models that are designed for the different sleeper positions. I would consider their luxe models for a bit more comfort over the core models. An example of how much they offer is if you want a luxe model that is Firm, they make one for side sleepers and one for back sleepers...the difference is they simply replace one layer of foam with another or swap those layer orders. Helix makes an Elite line and if I were to buy one it would be one of those...not because the comfort layer is thicker or it has micro coils and foam, but for the flexibility of the comfort layer swap. The entire comfort layer (several layers) is encased in a cotton cover that simply slips into the Top cover. You can swap just that layer later when your needs change for much less than buying a new mattress. Start off with Helix Midnight Elite and feel you need it firmer? Just have them send you a Dawn or Twilight comfort layer and swap it. Pretty convenient. Diamond - Ultimately my wife & I choose the "Black Diamond" series from Diamond Mattress. It had everything we wanted (just enough give on the top layer without being soft, a good coil support system and cooling features. We bought the Black Diamond Vail (Lux Hybrid Quilt Top in Firm). If we dont like it (Not here yet), The Helix Twilight Elite is my next go to. Good luck!!

Run down to your Mattress store and lay on some Sealy Pro or Elite series mattresses. They have one of the best coil support systems. The Elite will have more/thicker foam and some cooling tech, but if it's out of budget grab a Pro series. I recommend medium firmness, spring series, Pro or elite line, and quilt top. Half the price of previous recommendation.

omg my husband and I also enjoyed Paradigm Suites from Hilton and was trying to look for the equivalent. And both of us rly liked Brenham II 16” medium when we tried at MF. I’m now debating if I should buy from MF or the Pro Lincoln from Costco (cuz they look very similar). Wondering which one you end up choosing and how do you like it so far.

I bought the elite brenham 2 pillow top in medium a little over a month ago and I love it. I’m a heavier sleeper with a bad back and I’m waking up with a lot less back pain. Just my experience.

Still loving it! Back pain is gone and sleeping well

Sealy Posturepedic Brenham II Pillow Top. Had it for almost 4 months and I love it. I’m a big guy and a side sleeper and it has alleviated my back pain.