Indianapolis Soft Pillowtop

Old post but yes, we got one and love it. Most comfortable bed I’ve had. Great motion isolation so if one person is tossing and turning, it doesn’t bother the other.

The boring mattress founder trolls reddit to post and prop up his own product. But goddamn I just bought a queens hybrid because I was only allowed one 100 sleep night with T&N and I wanted to try out the Mint Hybrid because for some reason during Labor Day it was cheaper than the regular queen hybrid. Turned out way too soft. Boring mattress queen hybrid about half the cost of T&N and turns out to be pretty much exact firmness I was looking for. That also said, when I moved the T&N mint to the floor for the two weeks when both overlapped — the support on the ground made that mattress also pretty damn comfortable in a different way. Also slept on a pillow top sealy mattress at a Hyatt, was one of the absolute best nights in a bed I’d ever had. There is a purchase program. I did look into it. But I’m fine with the Boring one I’ve got now.

Any of the Sealy Mattresses in the "Pro" line will net you Sealy's really good coil system and you can choose your comfort layer feel (Soft, Medium, Firm) and top design (Hybrid, Ero, Quilt). Solid choice... Nothing else at Costco would interest me other than the S&F but have heard about some QA issues with that one.

Run down to your Mattress store and lay on some Sealy Pro or Elite series mattresses. They have one of the best coil support systems. The Elite will have more/thicker foam and some cooling tech, but if it's out of budget grab a Pro series. I recommend medium firmness, spring series, Pro or elite line, and quilt top. Half the price of previous recommendation.

The local retailers that carry helix here (not the big stores but the smaller ones) will give you the sleep trial but under their conditions. For instance one I visited yesterday will allow you to exchange the mattress for anything in the store. Also inventory to "try" is limited. He had two luxes, and one elite. I am driving 2 hours today just so I can lay on a Helix Twilight Elite, because all the other one had was a Midnight Elite. As for the big brands, they are still valid. Sealy Pro and Elite lines have their best coil support system and are good...all the comfort options as well. The Sealy Elite Firm Quilt Top is still in my top 5. I tried the Casper's and Nectars and eliminated them right away. Also eliminated Tempur right away. Eliminated Puffy as well. Eliminated Dreamcloud as well. Interestingly in the one store yesterday they had Diamond Mattress there and their Black Diamond Firm Quilt top was very nice and is now in my top 5. I was shocked as it looks and feels like a Helix Elite series for less money. As for foundations I am considering many...either platform like Xplat, Knickerbocker Platform 360, or the awesome SD Indestruct or traditional foundations like the Big fig one or the Beloit Heavy Duty (lots of slats) or the Terra. Even if I buy more mattresses down the line, I want to do a one and done on the foundation. See if you can find a Diamond Mattress retailer near you...I was really surprised.

For Costco you can pick up a Sealy Posturepedic in Medium that leans a bit firmer. Make sure it's a Pro series not a plus. Helix twilight luxe or Elite is great if you go down that road again. Most of the stuff they make is good quality and they are sources and made in the usa. www.3zbrands.com Your local Mattress stores will have lots of choices for you to try. Sealy/Stearns/Serta.

Look here: What makes a "Pro" a "Pro" - [https://www.sealy.com/sealy-posturepedic-collection/](https://www.sealy.com/sealy-posturepedic-collection/) If you have the materials and specs of a "Pro" you can be a "Pro" However, you can change how many layers or the density of the layers outside of those requirements to meet a price point. Comparison (You will notice a 1" difference in the mattress heights): [https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-15-medium-euro-top-mattress/5637547470.p?variantid=5637548310](https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-15-medium-euro-top-mattress/5637547470.p?variantid=5637548310) [https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-14-medium-mattress/5637547462.p?variantid=5637548262](https://www.mattressfirm.com/posturepedic-pro-lacey-ii-14-medium-mattress/5637547462.p?variantid=5637548262) [https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-highland-manor-13-medium-mattress/4000363508?langId=-1](https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-highland-manor-13-medium-mattress/4000363508?langId=-1) [https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-lincoln-heights-14-firm-or-plush-mattress/4000383457?langId=-1](https://www.costco.com/p/-/sealy-posturepedic-pro-lincoln-heights-14-firm-or-plush-mattress/4000383457?langId=-1)

Which Sealy Model? The retail pro and elite versions do very well and don't get returned often at all due to the incredible coil system they use. I definitely do not recommend soft mattresses. Both of my contacts at different stores have a lot of returns on Serta, BR and Purple, hardly ever on Elite and Pro series Sealy. Don't sell as many King Koil but very few returns on those as well. Bear in mind things like "Costco" versions are not the same. They are manufactured using cost cutting measures to meet a price point. (Less foam, etc..)

Sorry you went through this. I think probably your biggest mistake was getting the hybrid series of Sealy Elite as they have those thick flat memory foam tops that sink in and trap you and your heat. I hate memory foam mattresses for that reason. The Sealy Elite spring series are more traditional foam over coil and don't sleep nearly as hot or sink in like that. If you do ever try another mattress purchase look for traditional foam over coil with quilt tops. Like a Sealy Elite Brenham II or literally any model that is not thick layers of memory foam on the top. You said you were in MD, I am in PA and I can't say enough about the crew at Gardners Mattress and More in Lancaster, PA. Great store, great owners that are very involved in their community, run a podcast, wrote 2 books on sleep, etc. They carry a bunch of brands with plenty of floor models. Drew was my rep and was great. Good luck and stay away from memory foam :)

I want to start with, I work for Tempur Sealy (manufacturer of the models you are looking at). You picked some great models, I’m not just saying that because I work here. These Sealy models are SO MUCH better than what we have ever produced in the past (imo).  The support (coil structure) of the posturepedic pro & the support of the posturepedic elite are the exact same. The foam/comfort is what is different (foam = comfort here) on these along with the cooling story.  Comfort to you is different than comfort to me.   The bed can have the “best amount of support” but if it doesn’t feel good to you, it simply doesn’t matter.  Find what feels good to you.  Firm does not equal support. Soft does not equal no support  The “feel” is simply what the comfort level is. I personally wish they didn’t label anything as “firm, soft, medium, etc.” because it’s a suggestion. Again, comfort to you is* different than what this to me. The “feel” has nothing to do with the support of the mattress.  It simply comes down to what to feels good to you.  I would highly recommend laying on both models in the position you fall asleep in. This will give you the most accurate experience of what it’ll be like in your home. 

They are both great models! The Albany just has more premium foam. Support/coils are the same 😊 

Honestly, the pro adapt firm is a great bed for a firm mattress.  We refer to it as the firmest model in our line. It is definitely a firm mattress, but Tempur is designed to conform to your body weight, shape & temperature. Think of it as “softer where you want it, firmer where you need it.”  I personally wouldn’t sleep on it, but that’s because I’m a side sleeper & it doesn’t give enough where I need it. 

I’m on week 5 with my helix midnight elite. The first week I thought it was much firmer than the mattress we tried out in the store but sure enough it broke in over the second and third weeks. I do agree it is life changing and the improved sleep has affected quality of life all around. I look forward to sleeping in it every night, so much so I’ve been going to bed much earlier. We kept our old firm Sealy Posturepedic pillow top mattress for a spare bedroom, I tried sleeping it in again out of curiosity and I can’t believe I spent over a decade sleeping on that unsupportive bed.