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Do you live near an Ashley’s/dufresne furniture store? I think this is the same as the Lyanna at Ashley’s to try in store. I just went mattress shopping and am a stomach sleeper that needs firm but some plush for pain. Pillow top firm (if you need some plushness) or firm is what you want for stomach sleepers. This is medium (5 out of 10) which was too soft for me and caused lower back pain after a while so I got the Arya in firm (8 out of 10) and it’s perfect. It was more a bit more money but no back pain is worth it. Negotiated the price so it’s closer to Costco price.
The Lyanna at Ashley’s looks like it’s the same as the Costco Lakeridge. Arya in firm is the firmer version (Arya comes in a plush or firm) and slightly higher but not at Costco.
How much do you weigh? Age? Makes a big difference when mattress shopping. I have been through 4! In the past few yrs! I give them away and start over. 60 yr old with arthritis, previous back surgery with hardware, 200lbs from not being able to be active as I used to. My 6k temperpedic kills my back but my 40 yr old son says it’s comfortable. He has no back issues. So I think it all depends on the persons age & health. The S& F from Costco I read somewhere that it was made from lower end materials than one you would buy at mattress stores. Not even sewn properly on the corners. I think it could work for some. But it’s. It going to last long before the dips start.
I have S&F euro pillow top firm bought in 2025.. I have best sleep in life now. It is very comfortable and firm at the same time. Money well spent.
Same here, S&F estate plush firm turned to mush after five years, when I turned it on its side to get rid of, it bulged outward like a balloon as everything inside collapsed! Bought a Beloit Orthopedic medium firm , old school manufacturing technique, (flippable, encased coils, tufted cotton, no memory foam) reasonable cost, excellent bed and company.
If you want something that will last, Sterns and Foster is good at Living Spaces but go lay on it. I like mine so much I tried to replace it with the exact same one.
This is so crazy, I just came here to say I just went through this exact experience 2 weeks ago, was overwhelmed and ended up with a stearns and foster estate firm and I’m obsessed
Hey, former Mattress corporation exec here: of all the brands you mentioned, only Stearns and Foster has a reputation of true durability. But if you want a mattress that will really last 15+ years, you need to drop over $3k. The components to make a good mattress has become increasingly expensive, the quality that would have been a $700 mattress 20 years ago, is easily $3k now.
THIS! Yes, the Stearns estate line is a decorated Sealy, once you get to the luxe estate series, they start to stand out. But latex and Wool, as well as hand tufting, all good signs for a mattress
Avoid those perfectly rectangular hybrid mattresses, they start warping at the top seams. If you care about a lasting mattress NEVER buy a BIAB. A BIAB is a half made mattress, as a Kingsdown is an excellent brand, they are the only brand that runs durability tests every mattress that leaves their plant. You can get one on sale for $3k, or haggle the price there. No matter what you choose, expect a month of discomfort to acclimate to the increased support. If you’re coming off a really shitty lumpy bed to a nice one, your back will find discomfort as you’re using new muscles to help straighten your back. Mattressfirm legit has the most value for the buck, but more important is they have a good return and exchange policy as long as the bed is bought new (not clearance) and it ain’t scuffed or damaged. Of all retailers, they tend to be the safe bet, and they’ll price match anyone if you have proof.
Hey, former Mattress corporation exec here: of all the brands you mentioned, only Stearns and Foster has a reputation of true durability. But if you want a mattress that will really last 15+ years, you need to drop over $3k. The components to make a good mattress has become increasingly expensive, the quality that would have been a $700 mattress 20 years ago, is easily $3k now.
Avoid those perfectly rectangular hybrid mattresses, they start warping at the top seams. If you care about a lasting mattress NEVER buy a BIAB. A BIAB is a half made mattress, as a Kingsdown is an excellent brand, they are the only brand that runs durability tests every mattress that leaves their plant. You can get one on sale for $3k, or haggle the price there. No matter what you choose, expect a month of discomfort to acclimate to the increased support. If you’re coming off a really shitty lumpy bed to a nice one, your back will find discomfort as you’re using new muscles to help straighten your back. Mattressfirm legit has the most value for the buck, but more important is they have a good return and exchange policy as long as the bed is bought new (not clearance) and it ain’t scuffed or damaged. Of all retailers, they tend to be the safe bet, and they’ll price match anyone if you have proof.
I got to try it out locally first :) I tried the S&F Estate and the DreamStar and could hardly tell the difference between the two. The DreamStar was quite a bit cheaper. We had ordered the Douglas Alpine without trying it and ended up returning it. It was just too firm for me, I experienced shoulder, and across the back pain. We just bought it in August, so time will tell. Ours did come with a 15 year warranty though.
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