Estate Pillow Top - Soft

This is exactly the reason for the split king though. I'd just make sure you're hitting the same profile. You don't want the bigger partner on a 13" extra firm and the lighter one on a 15.5" soft pillow top. You could have a soft luxe adapt and they could have a firm luxe breeze, same profiles but completely different feels and temp sensitivity. Or you could get a Stearns Estate soft pillow top and they a Stearns Estate firm pillow top. Or a Beautyrest Black Series 3 Plush pillow top and Firm pillow top (this will probably be the biggest difference in feel and support of any mattresses from the same line, because Beautyrest actually has a plush coil for the plush BR Blacks and a firm coil for the medium and firm BR Blacks). Although you both might actually like the BR Black Series 3 medium pillow top, because it does have a pretty cushy immediate feel, and the lighter partner may not even engage the support coils.

Stearns & Foster has a very heavy construction (both in weight and strength). Their soft pillow top feels more firm (to me) than a Beatyrest Black medium. That could be good or bad for you, depending on what kind of plushness you're looking for. But if you need that extra support S&F could be a good bet.

Most of the sagging comments are by a fraction of the people that buy mattresses. Some percentage of any manufactured thing will have an issue. That's what warranties are for. A lot of people on here throw away a two year old $2k mattress without even trying to get it warrantied, which is basically the equivalent of lighting $2k on fire. Some people refuse to accept that the base is the primary reason for a mattress to go bad (and will cause a warranty to be denied). Another group of people refuse to use a mattress protector, so five years later the mattress has gained half its weight in your sweat and dead skin cells (which will cause the bed to sag and the warranty to be denied). Tempur-Pedic's internal data shows that they get warranty claims on one mattress per every thousand sold. More hand-made brands like Stearns & Foster, Kingsdown, Aireloom, etc. will likely have a higher failure rate, but they also provide a feeling of luxury you can't get without that process. The more mass-produced brands like Sealy have a great record, and Beautyrest has had a few bad lines but they've dropped them and replaced them with better. And across all those big name brands, they all come with 10 year warranties and actually try to honor them. They want to sell you a mattress and have you buy another in 10-15 years, and another 10-15 years after that.

I was on the Sterns & Foster estate plush and the beauty rest black series 3 plush pillow top today. I loved them both. Any thoughts between either of the two being better?

Appreciate your perspective. I’m a fan of Costco for mattresses for a different reason. I purchased a Novoform maybe 8 years ago, to replace a Stearns and Foster. Honestly, hated it from day one, just wasn’t the right fit for us. However, Costco was so gracious and offered to pick up the mattress for a no questions asked return. Instead, we gave the mattress, sleigh bed and all, to a family member and bought a Stearns and Foster. About to upgrade our guest room, so I’m purchasing the pillow top Stearns and Foster from Costco. They won my trust with the last purchase.

The Novoform felt hard to me, and it also had that weird memory foam sink. When I’d flip over, it felt I needed to “climb out” of the hole if that makes any sense. So I realized as a side sleeper, I need an interspring. I’ve loved my last Stearns and Foster, and realize the Lakeview pillow top won’t be the same as what I’ve got, but I expect it will be nicer than many hotel beds. That’s all I want.

We bought a Novaform California King from Costco. Absolutely hated it within a month or so. They were incredibly gracious and offered to pick it up and refund us. Instead, we gave the Cal King Sleigh Bed away, mattress and all, as we decided it is easier to outfit a standard king with linens. Ended up buying a Sterns and Foster, which we still love. We are looking at the Costco Sterns and Foster Lakewood for our guest bedrooms. Our experience was exceptionally positive.

I need some genuine recommendations. I have searched and search all over the Internet and watched multiple videos. I am truly looking for something that’s healthier and that doesn’t have a lot of chemicals. So far I really like these brands: Avocado - I really like the feel of their luxury mattress, but I’ve heard that there’s a lot of sagging on avocado mattresses really on in the mattress life. They’re also the most expensive one. Looking at 5k+ Naturepedic - I love the clean certifications at this brand offers. I haven’t found another mattress company that offer offers as many clean branding. They have a modular system and I worry because I’ve heard there is sagging in the middle of the mattress because they are essentially individual sides. Think of like 2 twins. 5k for price. Brooklyn Bedding - I loved the price and feel of the thermobalance. The sales representative said that they don’t use toxic materials, but I could not find the certifications when looking on the site. Looking at 2k. No, these are all king-size pricing. I was like input on any of these brands! I’m really trying to have a clean living space. Thanks! Edit: I also tried the Stearns & Foster Luxe soft pillow top and liked it. But I have a feeling it has a lot of chemically based materials in it.

They are owned by Tempur-pedic and have tempur in their bedding. Tempur-pedic has a lot of chemicals.

Hi there- I've been struggling for over a year - bought a Spring Air back supporter mattress -14.5G zoned coils and eurotop - my hips sink down in foam and then have hip pain and although it feels soft, I also get shoulder pain. I've tried so many different toppers and nothing has worked- Currently making my own zoned topper (softer foam 10ILD for shoulders and HR 28ILD firmer foam for hips to keep hips from sinking) but would much prefer a mattress that did not need a topper. I'm a petite (5') lightweight side sleeper with shoulder bursitis flares so shoulders need soft but hips need a medium-soft. I wish I could find a plush mattress with a zipper that would allow me to put a shim in the hip section. Seems so hard to find a medium-soft 4/10 mattress- all the soft ones are way too soft for my hips and every medium mattress 5 or 6/10 is too firm for me. Latex does not work. Trying to avoid zoned coils as it did not work well with the Spring Air. I see that some companies are now zoning the foam or using a shim piece. Would prefer a hybrid as I have never had an all foam mattress and I do sleep hot so not interested in all memory foam. Tempurpedic did not work- I tried the lux adapt medium hybrid- great for back, but terrible on my side. And their soft versions, I sank and then hit hard surface. I tried the BR world class 4 plush and it was way too soft. The level 3 plush felt too firm in the store so I thought the 4 would work but nope. I previously had a Stearns and Foster from 2016 that was a luxury plush pillowtop - always was a bit too firm for my shoulders but hips never sank and I was ok until 2 years ago when I was sleeping slanted as the edge support is too good. I tried the Stearns lux estate medium hybrid and it arrived defective - big hump in the center and I hated the deep divets. Any recommendations would be appreciated.