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Go for the 100k Hastens if you're serious about the no limit thing. Nice mattress no doubt I was impressed with the demo I had of the product and all the amazing steps they underwent to build a quality product. I even liked a 10k Vispring more than the high end horse hair Hastens model in the same store. They both had tufting which although a luxury feature and yes it is amazing for life span of a product it detracted from my comfort. Personally I do not like tufting and love a flat feel to my mattress line I have manufactured for 19 years. We also prefer to have a zipper on our mattress line to keep options open long term. I will make you a spring mattress that won't kill your shoulders and hold up extremely well long term and is a homegrown Luxury Brand. Our top of the line innerspring mattress is the Enlightenment Hybrid. It uses a American made eight inch pocketed coil innerspring with five inches of all- natural latex. The cover is a true high end organic cotton fabric (no polyester backing!) with wool batting and has two zippers on this Euro top style cover. Multiple firmness choices for the spring and the latex. The price is 3300 in the queen and 3900 in king size. I ship nationwide for a fee. White glove delivery available in some states. DM me if you have interest in exploring the wonderful world of Natural latex mattresses. -Will Shore "I make dreams of the perfect mattress reality"

No. I know the difference between tufting and quilting. At any rate, there are manufacturers that will give you decorative tufts with rosettes and everything. Regardless. I think we’re effectively saying the same thing and getting hung up on semantics. I think we’re effectively agreeing that we’re not counting that in your list. That said…my Vispring is hand tufted. You can add that to your list.

We have a Vispring and just ordered a second one. All natural materials is important to us, as is a high quality sleep.

I went down this rabbit hole too many times… There is a lot of personal preference, but here’s mine— Never memory foam, make me handicapped, sink in, can’t move bullshit. Latex is a massive step up— sink onto, not into. Aerloom’s higher end beds have micro coils (lots of support) with latex on top. Step up from that— Kluft. Same company, supposedly better product. Aerloom made my back feel 90% better than the very pricey online bed in a box bullshit I had purchased a few years prior. Next step up Vispring. No foam. Springs, cotton, wool, horse hair (if you’re fancy). Feels like an 80s bed, but in a good way. Back pain gone. There is a NY company that makes handmade beds like Vispring, but way less expensive. Didn’t buy because I couldn’t try them out in California. Might be a great mid price option. Google will find them for you. Remember lots of margin in mattresses. Ignore their “xyz” sale and ask for no less than 33% off .

In my old house we had two emperor mattresses.. definitely go for the zip and link. On paper the mattresses were an easy fit but in practice it took a lot of effort to get them in. Unless you live in a very open plan high ceiling'd bungalow. Also we now have a sleepeezee superking with a pillow top. It's as good as the vispring and hypnos that I've previously had. The emperor beds were awful so I wouldn't recommend that supplier.

Tried it in JL Oxford Circus. Felt quite misformed, especially compared to the other ones.

I have a ViSpring. My husband and I invested 11 years ago and it’s still perfect. Insanely expensive, though. Worth it for us. Will last a really really really long time.

Helix is great for what it is, but totally different ballpark than ViSpring. That’s like comparing Kia and Lexus. Also Helix is literally 5”-6” of poly and memory foam.