eero - eero 5

Get it from Woot.com, which is an Amazon company, so they have official refurbs. Amazon also sells official refurbs. Right now Woot has some 6 expansion nodes (not 6 pro, so no wired backhaul), and some 5 kits, I think.

That happened to me with Eero 5s but I was just able to buy one new in box on eBay for a reasonable price.

Go buy some Eero 5s off eBay or something. I got 4 for $50 a while back. Granted that was a particularly good deal, still a lot out there. I’d stay away from tplink if possible for security concerns: https://www.wired.com/story/tp-link-router-ban-investigation/

I’m a 20+ year IT professional. I’ve installed and configured enterprise networks, I’ve been in freezing network closets at 4am troubleshooting, I’ve run CAT5, CAT5e, and CAT6 through floors and walls and ceilings and attics. I thankfully now at the most just make incremental FW changes to aid the business but I still have extreme Cobbler’s Syndrome. So I bought an Eero 3 pack for less than half the needed budget for a Ubiquiti setup. It took maybe an hour and most of that was unplugging old access points and fiddling with really long and tangled network cables. It’s fast, it’s stable, it’s easy, and it’s cheaper than the prosumer solutions I looked at. If home networking is a fun hobby for someone then that person will enjoy the complex stuff. But most people just want their internet to work well and otherwise not think about it.

I've been in IT for 20ish years. I spec'd out a Ubiquiti setup. Cost was going to be way more than double the Eero 3 pack from Amazon. In a moment of clarity I realized that bc all the people on r/Ubiquiti say "I set up Eeros at my parents/brothers/friends house, it just works", I should just get some Eeros and call it good. The longest part of completely revamping my home wifi was untangling the CAT6 strewn through my basement. "it just works" is a huge selling point for people who don't want to do netops as a hobby.

My "for the Grandparents" (parents your case) recommendation for mesh is eero mesh. They go on sale very often, are dead easy to set up, offer good coverage with way more bandwidth than older people ever use, and both you and your parents can monitor and administer them using a phone App. You do not need to subscribe to any of the eero subscription services, your parents won't need them. Even the cheap eero 6 base model can give enough bandwidth to stream 4k TV everywhere if positioned right. You'll need to put the eeros in "Bridge Mode" if you want to continue to use your ISPs gateway, that too is just a button on the App.

I use and can recommend eero mesh for "non-techie" parents and grandparents. Very easy to setup, and you can administer it remotely if you have to, which isn't very often. Your parents might actually enjoy the setup process, as the phone App walks you through it completely. Eero mesh goes on sale often too. Black Friday while be here in a blink, and they are guaranteed to be on sale then. If your parents aren't gamers and aren't moving huge files regularly, even the dual band eero mesh gives good coverage at a fair price. If you can wire them in, you'll only need dual band as long as each mesh node has Ethernet ports (do not buy the "Extenders" that lack Ethernet ports if you ever envision wiring them up). If they want maximum performance using *wireless* backhaul between mesh nodes, then Tri-band eeros are what you are looking for, but they are pricey. Using mesh wirelessly is all about placement of the mesh nodes. Just keep in mind that strong 5 GHz connections between nodes is necessary for best performance. This means the nodes should be closer together than most people think. Putting units directly above or below each other is good, as well as on the same floor, but directly above or below the "dead spots" too.

It highly depends on the layout of your new apartment and the building materials used, but, generally, one unit can cover 1400 sq ft. If possible, try to find out the location where the router will be. Unless it's in the very corner, you are *probably* good with one router. If it's in the center of the home (like the center of the second floor), your chances are very good. What you can do is buy a single mesh unit, and use it as your only router and see if it's enough. If not, then you buy the second mesh unit of the same model and mesh them together. So you can do it in two stages, and stop at one if it's enough. I would advise against buying anything less than WiFi 6 (AX) if you're buying brand new. It's not really a savings with WiFi 5 if support for that unit ends years earlier than a WiFi 6, 6E, or 7 device. 6E and 7 routers are still expensive, so the value buy is WiFi 6 (AX) for now. If you want something simple to setup and manage, look into eero mesh. Just buy one unit, and then all of their other models can mesh together with it.

Since you have cable Internet and it runs into the basement, you hopefully have coaxial cables available to you throughout the house, and usually in key locations. Just look at the area where all the coax ends should meet, likely in the basement where your modem/router is at and plugged into. If you do find this bunch of coax, you can use it with MoCA Adapters to build a wired Ethernet network inside your home. If you can achieve that, then getting good WiFi everywhere will be easy, as well as providing wired capabilities for other devices in needed locations. MoCA Adapters can be a bit expensive, but worth the cost. If you can build this MoCA network, then whatever you choose as the router and Access Points will work very well, including a 3 pack of a reputable mesh brand. For mesh, I use and can recommend eero. But ASUS Zen mesh is also praised a lot, and has more configurability. If you want to go higher end, you can get an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway router, a Ubiquiti PoE switch, and some Ubiquiti Access Points. It's more expensive, but very capable of advanced setups, and is very stable. I use Ubiquiti at another home and in my office location, and I can recommend them personally as well.

Agree, the Eero 3-pack at my house, and the 3-pack at my parent’s house works flawlessly, but we are using wired connections between all of the Eero devices instead of relying on them to link together wirelessly. Linking them wirelessly just did not work reliably for me, and the speeds were poor. I’m using old coax connections with MOCA converters to turn the old coax into Ethernet connections.

Eero with 3 points 2200 sq feet

They do make a powerline with a pass through power so you could put that on the wall and run a powerstrip after it. But IME a 3node Eero will probably perform better for you.

Buy Eero 3 pack. Easy peasy.

No. Nest sucks. Deco or Eero if you want mesh.

There really is no one Wifi router that will penetrate all walls and building materials and give you a giant bubble of Wifi. As far as signal strength goes, they are about the same. For the best experience on a budget and easy to set up, mesh is typically the go to, like Deco or Eero. Running a wire between the two or more for wired backhaul will make it even better better.

I can’t get my speed up on these routers! I have 2.5gbs symmetric att fiber, eero app never reports more than 800mbs down and 95mbs up. WiFi speeds never faster than 500-600mbs down even when using WiFi 7 devices. Att router is in pass through and always reports full speed directly. I’m also getting no help from eeros tech support or Reddit.

I have 4 Eeros and all have Ethernet backhauls Recommended

Eero does 500mbps over WiFi, it’s hands down one of the best and easiest to manage. After 6 years of using it for all my security cameras and IoT it’s basically pointless to run CAT cable throughout a house in today’s world. Most people don’t need Gig network running throughout a house, it’s irrelevant Anyone saying don’t do mesh is honestly an idiot. Most probably live in an apartment or small house or just have know clue what you need vs what you want. I have 3 wireless cameras on my deck, 2 on my garage, one on my door, 2 inside my home. Including the other random 70 devices throughout my basement (movie room), office (2nd floor) in a 3500sqft home and have literally zero issues, from stream live security streams, streaming movies, gaming doesn’t matter Zero reason to not have a mesh setup in 95% of setups… plan and simple Especially when you can do outdoor mesh setups with companies like Ubiquity but unless you need outdoor internet to throw it to a barn or something… most get the job done just fine, like eero

100% spend the $ to get it ethernet done to each wifi point. I am a big fan of Eero wifi units if going wireless or Google if going wired btw. Google wifi uses the 6e wifi as wireless backhaul witch seems to have issues over 2 floors

Eero is very greedy on trying to maximize its own performance at the expense of everything else. It works ok if there aren’t any other APs (ie neighbors) nearby, but it sucks ass if you live in dense housing.

I’d forget about the Telstra part completely. You can plug the NTD directly into an Eero and then either use the other available ports to connect to the ports in the garage, or throw in a Netgear port switch between the Eero and the garage connection ports. Wire the rest as per your thoughts. You don’t need a modem with NBN NTD.

Eero is a mesh wifi system. As you aren't gaming in the office, use an extra eero AP in between the laundry room and the office to get full house coverage

Amazon eero have been great for me

Have Eero, not the best but it does the job. I’ve put too much money into it to want to swap it out. To make this more broad, definitely agree with a wireless mesh system. I don’t have any Ethernet ports and only have a coax in the worst possible place. Our house has 2 remote workers, 4 gaming computers and multiple other devices, like TVs, tablets and smart appliances. No issues at all!

Get eero or Tplink, you'll be fine. I went through 2 Google mesh systems and now leave them alone. BTW you don't need the wifi 7 or even 6E. Save some money unless you have Gigabit internet, then go crazy.

I had Eero at my last place and all was well. Now, same hardware at the new place and I get the same thing on my Google Home (although the Minis seem to stay connected).

If it's a 1BR apartment, it wouldn't be any better. But you said house - if it's a 2-story 4BR with a basement rec room, and you want to use it in the back yard, then you're gonna want more than 1 access point, Eero or otherwise. And in general, if you can reasonably wire the backhaul, do it. It's generally faster and more consistent and less prone to interference from other electronics than a wireless connection. You said you can't really do that now, but know that with multiple Eeros, they don't all have to be wired. If you have 3 Eeros, you can wire two of them together even if you can't wire in the third one yet\*. They will communicate via the fastest and most consistent connection they have with each other, be it wired or wireless. \* This is exactly my current setup. Cable modem and an Eero in the central part of the main house. In the apartment (next door, not a different floor), another one with a wired connection through the shared basement. Third one is out in the backyard she-shed, connected wirelessly. This setup provides a strong wifi connection throughout the whole house and back yard. Which isn't very large - about a half acre.

I pay for 300 down 22 up and I get every bit of it all around my house. In between devices I’m getting much more which in my opinion is much more important.

Re-iterating what others have stated. They work great when you hardware each unit. I am not a fan of wireless backhaul. In theory it should work, but in reality I find them lacking. I have recently done a Deco install and an Eero install, hardwiring all units for both. It is sometimes cheaper to do it this way than buying APs to wire in. Just remember to have the "Main" mesh unit first in the chain. I usually go Internet Modem -> First Mesh Unit -> switch -> satellites.

I was amazed how bad the eero config options are. An ISP router is way more configurable. Also, with eero, if there is an option, it's probably behind a subscription. Can't really compare it to unifi. Unifi is enterprise and eero is for getting the wifi to work in the bathroom.

I've been very happy with eero, but if I were to do it today, I'd pick the new tp-link WiFi 7 mesh system.

Working 100% fine on my Eero mesh network.

Well you failed at that. Your post wasn't informative, it comes across smug, condescending, and with no real information on how to do it correctly. See I put mine in the locations where it was weakest, I bought eeros because that can do wired backhaul. I ran hardwired lines to them, my wifi is fantastic. I've also been doing this for 27 years and try to educate people. If you want your mesh to work wirelessly and extend the range, the nodes have to close enough to each other to get really solid signal strength and radiate our from there, extending coverage. For best performance regardless, and for truly filling in dead spots, they should support and use a wired backhaul. For those that don't know what that means, a backhaul is the channel the mesh uses to communicate and relay traffic. Having that traffic on a wire instead of Wi-Fi frees up space for Wi-Fi traffic, and gives better performance, it is preferred in every way. It gives you more flexibility and it does a better job of filling in dead zones, but running the lines can be a barrier in effort and cost.

There are so many variable it's not that easy lol. But, it usually comes down to the router provided by Verizon just being crap. If you're not too technically inclined, the best option is to get a mesh wifi system like eero or google wifi mesh etc. It's likely a combination of the shitty router + just a busy RF environment.

Essentially the same here but added on to increase sampling size : )

Based on my experience with cheap and more expensive EERO setups I wonder if your Xbox is somehow sick. Not an XBOX guy and have no idea if possible but if you haven't A/Bed it with known source, its worth a try. How does a tablet, phone or laptop show speed at same location? Sorry - Probably all stuff you've thought of and done.

White it would take time and someone's cooperation, swapping out someone else's EERO equipment might be at least a fun test. Like I say I'm no pro on the technology but I have personally sequentially upgraded EERO generations thrice no with nothing but outstanding results compared to my 'traditional' WiFi networks and have had personal knowledge of 3 other parties who became EERO fans real quick in our traditional American Homes - designed just a tad too spread out for effective non EERO WiFi. Based on what's represented it definitely seems more like a hardware failure/setup failure settings type issue. Once again, this is just because of my experience with EERO having cured all my WiFi woes. I'm no expert, I'm just a real happy customer. Happy enough that I upgraded twice more or less because I was so happy.

Absolutely best solution would be to hard wire a couple of wifi 7 access points. Easier option would be a mesh system- my main suggestion here is to get wifi 7 to future proof yourself and the appropriate mesh units. It will prob be in the $3-$400 range but you’ll be good for a long time. If you ever upgrade your speed or get a fiber connection- you’ll appreciate that your setup is more than ready for it. Other advice- don’t cheap out. You get what you pay for. Stay away from the budget TP-link options. Eero is probably the easiest to setup. Also- Costco does good deals on quality mesh systems. Check them out if you have a membership

I use Eero and it works beautifully. Speeds and coverage are excellent

If they can’t get a cable, have them do a mesh device. Turn the WiFi off on the router, and add a 2 or 3 mesh system like eero. I use TP-Link Deco myself. You hardware 1 to the router and put the other 1 or 2 strategically where you have power only.

Eero is going to be a bit spendy in comparison to TP Link. [This TP Link is around $160](https://a.co/d/8VPQ1au) I have the AC1900 Deco which is more around $120 but not as good. I bought that a couple years ago.

Eero is pretty dum dum proof

If you have to wireless mesh, eero is really good in my experience. Setup is painless and it just works, I’ve only had to reset my network maybe once or twice in the last few years. As others mentioned, if you can do wired backhaul then that’d be ideal.

No. This is a piece of hardware that requires other pieces to work. UniFi sells business and enterprise networking equipment. It requires a management system to be in place. A cloud key or Dream Machine is needed to configure this. Think, professional use only where professional knowledge is necessary. Return this to where you purchased it. If you want to use Mesh, pickup a TP-Link Deco system, Eero, or a Google Nest WiFi system for a ***proper*** functional system that won’t make things worse. Don’t buy garbage called “range extenders” or “WiFi boosters”.

I would recommend a wireless mesh system. I had Orbi in a 2400 sq ft 3 level home (1 router, 2 satellite units) and Eero in a 2 story 3100 sq ft home (1 router, 1 satellite unit).

Nerd stickler - mesh is Wi-Fi back haul. If it’s wired backhaul, it’s not mesh. That said, with mesh if the APs can’t get good wireless signals between themselves, you’ll have a crummy experience. Were it me, it get something that can do wired backhaul OR mesh (which are most things… Eero, Orbi, etc). Try power line for backhaul. If it works, great. If it doesn’t return it and fall back to mesh.

Eero for the remote accessibility.

This is what I wanted to do. But alas, the handover between the eero's was incredibly slow. Both worked independently and seemed to work fine in bridged mode, but the mesh part was crap. If using them in their separate rooms, as 2 independent WiFi units, fine. If having them as mesh, as previously mentioned, one needs to be upstream.

I am genuinely disappointed by how many people suggest Eero over more scalable solutions - especially over UniFi products. I guess Eero does fit the bill for the non-technical user, so it makes sense. Their router and AP’s configuration options are woefully lacking, but again, probably suitable for a non-technical user.

I want that as well, with minimal latency for wired gaming via QoS, which was definitely not an option on Eero.

Yeah my gaming devices are wired, but I still want at least fq_codel going on, and that shouldn’t be a big ask at this day and age. I speculate the specs on the Eero devices might not be beefy enough to handle the QoS while simultaneously maintaining high bandwidth speeds, though. In the very least, I at least know to steer away from Google Home Wi-Fi 😂 appreciate ya for that.

Yeah, I tried them a few years back, looks like the 6/6E models and newer are the only ones to support QoS.

This is anecdata, but I for one have an Eero mesh wifi system, and a number of Sonos speakers, and things have been pretty stable for me over the past year. The app has had problems, to be sure, but “can't detect the speakers” and such hasn’t been a problem here, though I know it has affected lots of other folks. From skimming posts here, there seems to be a pattern that things have generally been stable for other Eero users, too, though I’m sure exceptions to that must exist.

Eero can do a decent job if you are absolutely against wiring in access points. Just temper your expectations. The access points that are furthest away from the gateway will have slower speeds than the access points that are closer to the gateway. Your house’s type of construction will also play role in performance.

Option A. For a similar size space- I have a MT router with WiFi in my main area. 2 decos top floor. Mesh 2nd floor 1 Deco( area isn’t used much) Lowest floor 2 Decos. Option B. Eeros same layout Option C. If you have hard wired runs then an ubiquitous system. Depending on budget Omada would be low end, ubiquity mid range and upper range Ruckus, Juniper, cambium, etc. I’m a Ruckus fan myself. If speed isn’t a concern you can get older AC R510 or 610 with max speed close to a Gig from these, for a good price from eBay. Set them with unleashed firmware and you are good to go. Remember mesh hops create a power loss of 50% each. So if you have 100 at the main floor, the 4th floor will be 12.5. Hope this helps.

I sold my asus 68 and went eero. Sold the eero and a month later went to a asus 88 rx pro. For me and my old house, the single asus had better range and perf than the mesh. So my single asus that hasn’t had a firmware release in like 6 months continues to chug along. Maybe we are getting to the point now where upgrading doesn’t get you much

The folks suggesting Omada and Unifi aren't wrong. Those are *great* systems, but they're pretty "pro". If you don't need advanced networking features (e.g., VLANs beyond isolated guest networks, traffic rules)/want something that's more plug-and-play, a mesh system that supports wired backhaul might be a better fit. Asus ZenWiFi performs well, supports wired backhaul, and offers some useful advanced settings. It's not as configurable as Omada or Unifi or MikroTik, but it's simpler to manage and "good enough" (multiple isolated guest networks, band-specific networks, QoS) for lots of home users. Eero also performs well but doesn't support as many advanced features as Asus.

Eero (Amazon), tp link Deco, and Asus ZenWifi are all well-reviewed and perform well. If you've got to go mesh, look for a tri-band system with a dedicated backhaul channel (Eero, Deco, and ZenWifi all have models). Eero and Deco are a little more "plug and play". ZenWifi is also easy to set up, and some models give a few more config options/control than Eero or deco. The tricky part is that you don't know how well mesh will perform until you set it up in your place. Two nodes might be enough, but you might need three (or four). A 6 ghz backhaul channel might work, but, if the walls and floors in your place cause a lot of interference, you might see better perf with a 5 ghz backhaul. So buy from a place you can return it, maybe start with three nodes, test how coverage and speeds look, go from there. All three have 2.5 Gbps ports. 3 gig is a *lot* of bandwidth for a residential setup. Unless you're regularly downloading gigantic files (video, game updates), you probably won't exceed ~300-500 Mbps, and WiFi will de facto limit the perf on any device to ~200-600 Mbps. For most homes, 200 Mbps is plenty. If the 3 gig price isn't much different than ~300 Mbps (if you're in the US, it's hard to find service under ~300 Mbps), go for it, but if you're paying a premium for 3 gig, you can save some coin and you almost certainly won't notice a difference in performance. If you're in Europe, you rule!, fiber away because you're prob only paying like €40 for 3 gig.

Eero works great.

Eero has worked very well for me.

Yeah fair enough, i had trouble with them at a previous apartment, i think it was actually tripping my circuit breaker. I currently have Eero mesh and I've had some reliability issues with them (some random disconnects, every new update is a toss up for introducing instability). My PC is plugged directly into my router, but my ping 1 hop away over wifi is only 7ms.

Eero saved my network setup, very reliable

everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg)

everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg)

Eero is pretty good. it has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg) what's important is having ethernet backhaul as mentioned in that video. without ethernet any mesh would be useless

Using Eero for the past 8 years.

Run from netgear, don’t walk! Made a huge mistake buying the Orbi 972. I highly recommend the Amazon Eero as I get no complaints from employees using this system in their home.

If I had an Eero system with a wired gateway, a wired node, and two wireless nodes, what would that be classified as? I was under the impression that was considered a mesh network, but after reading your explanation, I am second guessing myself.

Right that makes sense. For non IoT devices like phones, laptops, etc, I know with mesh they advertise move freely around the house with seemless switching to best connection. With my eeros and tplink I have noticed this doesn’t actually work when running from one side of the house to the other while on a Teams call. All that to say with a wired backhaul going back to a traditional one router with multiple WAP seems to be the right move. My only question is do devices switch to the best connection automatically. Maybe not seemless like mesh is advertised but will they at least switch if I go from side A to side B of my house?

Would recommend to check out alternates like tplink xe70 /xe75 pro or the eero products. Was recently looking for a good deal and found the tplink xe70pro for around 230 USD on prime day sales. Setting it up was a breeze and am getting around 2G on WiFi on the WiFi 6e devices I have.

I run an Ethernet cord to some switches and have an eero attached to them.

I had good luck with Eero, but the problem with Eero is that unless you’re looking to spend serious $ on a Max 7 set, the ports are somewhat limited. The Pro 6E, for instance, has one 2.5gb and one 1gb port. You need to choose between more internal bandwidth or handling up to 2.5gb internet bandwidth but limiting your internal wired devices to 1gb.  I went with the Netgear Orbi 770 last year since every port is 2.5gb. It has been great. 

Agree with all of this. My 770 was nothing but problems. NETGEAR support was more interested in trying to get a floor plan of my house than actually helping (my issues had nothing to do with placement). They take forever to release new firmware and when they do, problems aren’t fixed and more problems are introduced.  The price is crazy for a steaming pile of shit. I gave up and went back to Eero. 

EERO can be very solid but we would need a lot more details to configure it for OP

Really need a lot more detail about your home to give a good idea of what to use. Do you have ethernet ports through the home? This makes a huge difference in options.

Eero. You'll never think about wifi again.

Mesh will have a potentially hard time with the concrete, wifi simply doesn't penetrate - so mesh will be problematic - placement would be key, the satellites need to have a good signal from the base to work well. You might get away with it by placing them near doorways etc. Many people use ethernet along the base of the walls, over doorway frames etc. and wire access points. Mesh systems do have the advantage of a central controller for the access points, so if you can wire them, your wifi experience would be a lot better. I am not a fan of Netgear, TP-Link Deco is popular in this sub, as is Eero (but there's the fact that it's Amazon and has a semi-subscription model. If you want to be a little more spendy, Ubiquiti UniFi has a great interface and good quality that should last. The UniFi Express models have a built in AP and can be meshed. The Cloud Gateway Ultras would be ideal with multiple access points placed around. (I am a UniFi fan) Asus is also mostly well thought of. I think the TP-Link Deco line would be the most affordable choice.

To echo what plenty of others are saying, but also provide links to specific items to Do-It-Yourself and save money but still get good finished product. Assuming you have roof/attic access above the rooms and can run power to the attic: * buy bulk CAT6 cable, shielded twisted pair, not CCA (CCA stands for copper coated aluminum). [Get good shielded copper wire, like this](https://a.co/d/ijNWYa0). * buy a [crimper toolkit like this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7GRX9DW) * watch a few youtubes on terminating Cat6 cable. * buy a mesh wifi system like Amazon Eero, tp-Link Deco, Asus Zen Wi-Fi, etc. [Here's a good article / review of mesh systems and what to look for](https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/best-mesh-wifi-routers/) **NOTE:** mesh wifi is the consumer grade solution. If you can afford it, you're better off getting Wifi Access Points (APs) - the business grade solution - Ubiquiti is the best known of the AP options. Connection works similarly, with one key difference -- APs require power over ethernet (POE) instead of an electrical outlet / power supply. There are pros and cons of installing either Mesh or APs. * buy at least one [Unmanaged Ethernet Switch like this](https://a.co/d/88WLwNn) - this one is 8 port (1 connection in, 7 out). * You'll run an ethernet cable from your Comcast box to your wifi mesh router. Then you'll run a **long** ethernet cable down toward your L-corner dead zone. You'll plug that long ethernet cable to the Unmanaged Ethernet Switch. Then you'll run another ethernet cable from the Unmanaged Ethernet Switch to one of your mesh wifi satellites. BAM! Good internet within reach of that mesh satellite. You'll need to estimate/experiment with how many satellites the system needs (get multiple people to watch netflix on iPads, and spread them along rooms close to the mesh satellite -- see how many people / how many rooms you can cover before you need to add another mesh wifi satellite). I did a low-key simplified version of this at my house. Reply here if you have questions / need help. # You can do this yourself.

I tried eero after asus. On a technical and performance level it’s much better. The deal break for me is the local network shuts down unless the eero can connect to the internet on startup. It’s not just the management features are behind a subscription, or the management has to be through the app. The router will not accept any local clients unless it phoned home to Amazon on startup

I’m glad I came across this information. I have been looking at WIFI 7 mesh routers and been thinking about getting the Deco models I have seen on Amazon and at Costco because of their lower prices. I’ll stick with Eero cause they work flawlessly for me.

I switched from eero to Orbi back when Amazon bought eero. Nothing but odd behaviors and frustrations with my Orbi’s. Switched back to eero’s last year — rock solid. Both were/are configured in bridge mode. Eero’s just work.

Eero sucks from a management perspective and interferes with My zigbee network on a similar sized house. Can’t disable the 2.4ghz network either

Eero. I have installed lots of Eero systems over the past 2 years when the customer doesn’t want or need something more substantial like UniFi. I’ve had 0 callbacks. Follow the app and install it properly from the get-go and you’ll be fine.

Glad you were able to solve the issue putting the ATT router in passthrough mode, but I would definitely recommend replacing the Google WiFi system regardless. Google hasn’t released a firmware update for the gen 1 system in years. Eero is arguably the best mesh system for the price now. I’d take a gander and see if it fits your budget.

Having used eero and UniFi I have to vote UniFi. The eero system and my HomeKit devices didn’t seem to agree with each other and would constantly go offline. Haven’t had a single blip since I moved to UniFi.

This is exactly how my networks are setup. My eeros are in bridge mode

Eero mesh is the way forward

EERO works great .

pick up an EERO and and another mesh point or 2 depending on the layout of the house

My Gen 3 router is in my office loft. Not only do I get OK coverage throughout the cabin and out on the decks, I noticed the other day that I was still getting a strong WiFi signal while out in my boat about 50 yards offshore on our lake. I had disconnected my eero mesh system to reduce complexity as I leave Starlink running unattended all winter, so it was all the router and its placement. Not a lot of outside electrical interference in the area due to being pretty remote, so that may be a factor.

I swear by Eero. It has yet to fail me after 5 years.

I think that Eeros work very well and would meet your needs. A lot of networking enthusiasts don't love them because they're not as configurable. But they tend to be pretty reliable if you have wired backhaul and don't have any exotic needs.

Basically you have a main eero (which acts as a router)One port on that connects to the ONT/modem and you can connect the other port to a switch and wire the satellitle devices to that. This is how I'm set up more or less. You can daisy chain them too if you prefer, but most people will attach a switch because they want more Ethernet ports.

I'll add that you really shouldn't have your router in a metal cabinet since it kills the wireless signal.

I'm not really sure. One problem would be that if #2 breaks or flakes out somehow it'll screw up #3.

Here too. I love my Eero set up & no issues :-)

I've had Eero mesh for almost 8years, and 4 yr with Eufy.. solid and works great, easy to setup and great coverage. edit: do NOT seek a solution with "extenders", that is not Mesh.

Two local fiber ISPs in my area have standardized on using Eero for each of their clients. I have had no issues with my Eero units

Eero , built in Zigbee and thread , been using it for 2 years without problems . 4 satellites , can daisy chain or use an Ethernet switch

I have three of them. One is stationed at the top of the stairs to act as a midpoint.

He just reviews speed. Doesn’t really mean much compared to things like buffer bloat and general stability. He hates on eero but those are the most stable routers out there

Not that I know. But if Dong “knew” tech he would review what actually matters. Also the fact Eero isn’t a geek device doesn’t matter when you can put them in bridge mode and have the most stable network out there WITH your pro use cases

Before you buy a third. Try it with two. The wired back haul may work. The more eeros the more problems. I did this myself I have 4 of them and it’s a mess. I’m now only running two of them and it’s much faster.

Check with your service provider to see if they have any recommendations. We had the Google mesh when Spectrum was our provider. When we switched to AT&T fiber, the technician cautioned that Google had been found to decrease their WiFi signal but recommended a few other systems. Ultimately, we replaced our Google mesh with Eero and it’s been doing well.

The most important thing to look out for is a dedicated channel for wireless backhaul. These are usually called Tri or Quad Band.  Eero are generally good value and there are often deals on Amazon. 

It’s a plug and play system. Works great. However, If you like to tinker with your network settings, there aren’t many settings to play with. More features are available to tinker with if you buy their subscription. Still you will not have full access to configure the router the way you want to.

If you don’t know networking, get rid of Spectrum’s router (keep the modem) and just get Eero. They have the router built in, though there are very few configuration options.

This is my setup and it works well with high speed and latency.

I think it’s overkill. Eeros have been pretty solid. I bet if you just wired the nodes together it would be fine.

Eero. Got it during Covid as both Wife and I were on zooms. Have a 3 floor house. Absolutely improved quality of WIFI. Highly recommend

I have two eeros with wireless backhaul, which is suboptimal, and there is a noticeable moment as I go down the stairs and switch APs when the connection drops. For example Plex playback (on the new app) pauses for a couple of seconds, facetime calls drop for a second, wifi icon on phone shows connection strength to AP 1 falling and then improving with AP 2.

I have an eero mesh system for near a decade and it is pretty solid and fast.

Remove the Verizon router and just use the eero, as long as the eero can handle your bandwidth speeds.

I am running eero in two different houses both without wired links between the aps and it is perfectly fine. I have used the wired ports to connect some of the TVs direct to the aps

Great feedback I work for Spectrum and I myself use eero mesh

When I have to go full mesh I use Eero. Usually does the trick and pretty decent app too.

The best options in terms of performance but not cost: (cost would be inverse) - eero gateway - eero 7 max - eero 7 pro - eero 6e (consider getting one used if you can) - eero 6 pro or any other eero with 2 wired ports If you have 2 gig internet the best options are probably the eero gateway or one of the eero 7s.

This is what I have for mine too except I’ve got Modem -> Eero -> Switch -> Eero -> Switch

I also use Eero. It works great with Eufy. I have over 80 devices connected with no issues. Their customer service is top notch, too.

I had 5 eeros around the house and my pain was that devices took their time switching from AP to AP , getting poor signal even when I was standing next to another hard wired router. You had almost 0 information that's going on on your network. Even with paid subscription, you got a message threat detected, but that's it. No details at all. So I bought Synology router and leave eeros in bridge mode for WiFi only. 6 months later, I got rid of all eeros and got another Synology router. All issues with WiFi coverage were gone. Then I had some extra money and got unify.

Have orbi before and so many problems with homekit but since changed to eero been working perfectly fine

Close in what sense? I have a very similar setup to you and can get gigabit WiFi on my iPhone 16 next to the eero.

I also used mine in wireless only mode for a long time with great success.

My dad hates his orbi system and the fact they show a subscription for “enhanced security” every time you open the app is enough to not buy an orbi product Eeros are great and super easy to use If you want to dive deep into this, then a unifi system is definitely the best option

I second the eero routers. They work great with their extenders. My ex had a big back yard and a casita pretty far away from the main router and it worked great with the two extenders that came with the set.

Eeros are great and very easy to set up. They don’t do a thing “advanced” which may not be something you’re interested in or need anyway. One note though…. It’s almost always better to buy your own router than rent it from your isp. Even if you go to Best Buy or Facebook marketplace and get the exact same system, I’d rather own it than rent it.

My eero system is very solid and no HomeKit issues. I don’t even know what is behind their paywall cuz I don’t use it and am not missing anything.

https://preview.redd.it/xusd0ulugl2e1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcffbad4610ff3b69c449331ad05a576c41f50ac Screenshot of my eero. Works great.

I would go for wire mesh… I had power-line adapters and while they do work, it does with limitations. A major one would be the speeds you get. I went with Eero in wired configuration and have not looked back since….

I have first hand experience with Eero, Google Mesh, TP-Link and, Linksys. I really hate pretty much all of them. I'd recommend something like Ubiquiti, get a little POE switch, get one of those controllers, get a couple little flying saucer looking APs and hardwired all of them. It'll work really well.

+1 for mesh - I've been using Amazon Eero for a few years now and it's been brilliant.

Eero is one of the best mesh systems if not the best. Went through my phases of complicated routers, then Google mesh, ended up staying with eero for the reliability and ease of use.

Get Amazon Eero, wire them together and buy network switches for when you want to connect other devices. That's the simplest solution for you. You can connect network switches anywhere but between the ISP modem and the first Amazon Eero.

Amazon eero is a solid option, very easy to setup. You can find some good options [in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/user/Substantial_Net_8311/comments/1nb4a9y/the_best_wifi_mesh_networking_systems/)

Although all Unifi APs will mesh, after trying it, I have been doing anything I can to use a wired back haul. Our rental house luckily has a few coax drops so I use 2.5G coax MOCA as recommended in this thread. I am using a hardwired E7, U6e and U7 Wall Pro and 2x meshed U7 Wall Pros. The mesh can be unreliable. After a disconnect it can a long time to reconnect. Sometimes those APs get stuck in an orphaned state and require a physical reboot or even a reset and new set up. The speed is not fantastic either. Looking forward to moving back to my under-repair home where all APs are hardwired. I’ve had much better luck with Eero mesh systems which I installed in my parents’ and in-laws’ homes. Those are very trouble free.

Eero is okay but last time I checked you can’t do port forwarding with it. TP-Link seems good, no issues since the firmware update a year ago.

I agree with this. I have setup three Eero mesh systems for family members. They are super easy to setup and maintain. It has been set it and forget it for over three years now. These are installed in houses with users who are 65+.

So glad i chose eero over it

I gave up on orbi a year or so ago after running them for a couple of years. I switched to eero (despite resisting due to not liking that they're Amazon-owned) and they've been a dream. No issues, no interruptions, no speed degradation at all.

I use Eero mesh network WiFi extenders rather than powerline because they supposedly are more reliable, seamless switching between nodes (entire WiFi coverage is 1 WLAN) and can handle such high bandwidth that it'll be possibly decades before the fibre line to my house is faster than what the mesh network can handle. It's more expensive (like £100 for the hub plus 2 nodes) especially if you need a lot of nodes but I get full WiFi strength everywhere inside the house including the basement.

my internet provider gives Eero for free as a part of the service. for such a small device it’s insanely powerful.

Just to confirm, this is the setup I have. One eero has to be the base, and sit between the modem and the switch. From there you can have other eeros either cabled or on wifi. It works well.

Probably should just get a new eero or two. While having a million eeros around can be counter productive - more is generally better and they are backwards compatible. Not sure the latest eero vs Google WiFi head to head results but in most cases your dollar and performance will go further upgrading the mesh you have. Re: living room - I wonder if the eeros are a little too close.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

I have the EERO mesh network, it works good and the app is good, but I don't like having features paywalled behind a subscription. Wouldn't recommend.

Eero is fine. “Mixed reviews” are often by people who are unaware that they need to be placed logically, or people who have expectations that are inconsistent with modern WiFi networking. The limitation of consumer Mesh product almost always comes down to the balance between “ease of use” and “configuration flexibility”

Eero is really easy to set up for non-techie people. The app walks you through the setup well.

Exactly. I set up a Eero mesh at my in-laws. Removed a single wired Unifi AP and replaced it with 3 wireless mesh units. Much faster overall speeds all over the house and its easy and simple enough for them to manage on their own now using the app. They couldn't care less about QoS or tweaking settings to optimize performance. For roughly the same price as I paid for the AC-LR back in the day. At my office, I use Unifi Edge router with Unifi AP's. Different network with different requirements.

You can buy one of the modern mesh WiFi system like eero. Each base has an Ethernet jack at the distant location that you can use. Backhaul combines all frequencies for faster than you thought possible wireless

Open Amazon and type eero in the search box. That’s actually the Amazon branded answer. There’s actually mesh systems under a number of brands. The key to mesh is they combine all the bands for backhaul, much different than what you’re doing with an outdated repeater. Most mesh systems have remote Ethernet jacks, but I have checked out every brand. I bought eero on a Black Friday deal 3 years ago, haven’t regretted it, I don’t use it as a router tho (wifi AP only) and Amazon does seem to have some subscription based functions in the router firmware 99.99/year for eero+ features such as VPN, content controls, user management, etc. I typically won’t buy products that want you to pay a subscription to make full use of the hardware already purchased.

Are you getting hourly interruptions on the dot in gaming and Zoom calls and similar real-time activities? I was. Nothing fixed it. No matter what, I got a big lag and packet loss spike every 59-60 ish min on the dot even fully wired in from end to end. Worse on Satellite-connected Wi-Fi devices. [https://www.reddit.com/r/orbi/comments/1itakgy/orbi\_770\_intermittent\_packet\_loss/](https://www.reddit.com/r/orbi/comments/1itakgy/orbi_770_intermittent_packet_loss/) I gave up, went to Eero, they had massive firmware regressions and no way to roll back, then I switched everything to UniFi. No regrets. Even their Early Access releases are way more stable than anything from Netgear. And they iterate updates and fixes so quickly. It's impressive.

Be aware. I like my eero mesh. But it's a whiplash going from a router that has a management console I can access internally without Internet and have logs and history data to eero. Without Internet you cannot access the management of your network , you can only access via phone app with account no IP or web page. And some features are blocked behind a paywall like for example going to a list of which devices consume more data on a day and so on. I might change from eero to another brand in the future based on it but for a no frills, turn on and forget eero might be your better choice.

It does ‘just work’ for the most part, which absolutely has value. However, lacking basic features like prioritising certain devices or splitting the 5 & 2.4Ghz bands removes standard quick-fixes for some common problems/scenarios. The completely tech-illiterate aren’t affected by this, as they’d never look at the settings. Tech/networking-enthusiasts would never buy this product. It’s everyone in the middle that suffers.

As someone who used to work for a fiber ISP that gave out eero's Do not get an eero

I’ve tried google/nest and eero mesh networks. Google was decent but I had the old pre wifi6 ones, so I shifted to eero and wasn’t impressed really - constant upsell for features that I believe should be standard and issues with devices moving from one mesh outlet to another while walking around. Finally I got ASUS zen WiFi XT9’s - had one issue where I needed to factory reset after a firmware update, but overall they are rock solid, I get 500mbps (that’s my plan max speed) download via WiFi everywhere in my house and run security cameras and smart lights outside, definitely recommend them.

I have Eero and while good I wish it allowed for multiple SSIDs and also to have them use seperate vlans on my switches to keep IOT isolated. Do you know if the Deco allows this kind of functionality? Thsnks.

I had Eero for years but it kept causing problems, and amazon never seems to fix them, I replaced it with TP-link Deco XE75 and they have worked flawlessly for years. Use ethernet backhaul if you can, and placement becomes less important. The wifi 6 backhaul is also pretty good, but my experience is you need more units to maintain good speeds - I have 4 for indoor, and is going to add another 3 for outdoor coverage.

I like it. Easy and effective unless you’re a tinkerer.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

Linksys Velop systems have quite a simple app and user experience. The whole setup process is very oriented around the wireless backhaul system. Amazon Eero's are also quite good. But please make sure every node you get is tri-band.

Same. My Orbi just started having random problems out of nowhere. Switched to eero been fine. But the price of Orbi still has me annoyed.

What you need to do is return the Spectrum router and save yourself $10 a month for the router WiFi monthly fee. The modem is free so you can keep that. Now what I would suggest for your WIFI Signal issues is to get something called a “Mesh WiFi system” these are meant for larger homes 3000+ sq ft and are best for coverage/range and speeds ! Eero is the best in my opinion for a mesh WiFi system !

If your house is over 3000 sq ft , I would suggest getting an Eero Mesh WIFI system . Those are really good and reliable. They do normally cost around $500 for a 3 pack but well worth the cost . You can look up YouTube videos on tutorials . They are super simple to setup !

I went to my local Best Buy and they stopped selling it or getting stock due to this ban (The store manager told me) . I'm in NY if that matters .. This was about a month ago . I guess buying them online is the only option , but then again if it does get Banned then TP Link will just disable it via a firmware update and you are left with a brick .. ASUS is way superior or Eero for Mesh systems !

Are your Eeros within range of each other that you can simply not wire Room B? I have used Eeros that way for years and it works well. You might sacrifice some speed, but not a lot.

Sure. The Deco does not have nearly as much engineering put into it as the Eero does. Eero has a bunch of unique (patented) technologies that make it work better in certain environments.

This won't work. If your modem is also a router and you have the eeros in bypass it will work, but not well. Modem -> Eero -> Switch -> Eero is the correct way. If your concern is the lack of multi gig ports on the Eero or the need to home run to a place where there is no need for an Eero, pick up a POE gateway.

Just did a trial run, take away is you needed to use thier mesh, was incompatable with what I already invested in, eero

Hardwire your house and add a WAP on second floor ceiling. We retrofit lots of houses for hardwire and teach clients to just use WIFI for portable devices, IOT’s and mobile phones. Hardwire all TVs, computers and network devices that can be hardwired. MESH is just a bandaid that has lots of loss when going from one AP to the other. You can use Eero and it will work like a charm.

A whole arsenal of Eero would work if you want simple. Little more advanced would be tp link deco. Ubiquiti if you are a network aficionado

I went from Deco’s that had devices drop off regularly to Eeros supplied by my ISP. It’s like night and day. Eeros are rock solid and work perfectly with my Apple Home setup. I intended to go down the Unifi route until I realised just how reliable and well performing the Eero’s were. They are ‘plug and play’ and you can’t change much, but are pretty much ‘set up and forget’. Just my own experience and it may be different for someone else.

Thai probably isn’t the right sub because in general networking equipment becomes end-of-life in about five years - but for a decent functionality at a good price point I like the Amazon Eero.

Good to know, thanks, since I switched to Eero recently. Not bothering with Eero Plus.

As long as you’re clear on what the eero provides, and what features are behind their paywall, their system provides an excellent wireless mesh setup.

Hell I just use my ISP router for routing and the eeros as access points. It does everything I need it to for free and the Eeros are basically flawless. They’ve needed to be reset maybe half a dozen times in 5 years, and it’s usually after a power outage/fibre outage when they’ve bugged out losing access to the outside internet.

I use eeros for my mesh wifi and it works great with my OPNSense setup. I just dropped it into bridge mode. I physically segregate my LAN / Home WIFinetwork from my Guest and IoT via a 4 port nic and Firewall rules. My IoT stuff runns off a Nighthawk and the Guest also runs off another Nighthawk. BOth running OpenWRT firmware since stock is garbage and insecure.

I moved away from Orbi because there was no way to separate out the 2.4 and 5 GHz . Maybe it's changed with the new software. What that did was make it difficult and sometimes would not work at all with my smart devices (locks, lights and cams) that only work on 2.4. I went to the Eero system this year and it's been fantastic TBH

Starlink works very well with a mesh system. Why do you want starlink? It appears that you already have Internet options? Are they not working well? I have two setups in different areas, one covers a massive fucking area because I have a field I mow that's about 20 acres and was able to set up a lot of point to point extension within that. Covering a shit ton of area between two dishies for lower/upper campus At the spot I'm currently at I have about 2 acres covered and trying to push to 4. I use a mix of eero and TP link devices that I'm very happy with. I do not use the starlink router with the latter set up but for a while I did and it was fine

Eero is entry level and easy. There are much better systems but I've had zero problems with mine that came with a few nodes a few years ago for a non starlink system Not sure on their updated stuff but I'm okay with it on this setup. I have a tp link at the edge but I have like 2 acres covered. This is off a dishy 2 My 2 dish (3 performance) setup has a way crazier setup but it's like 15x larger of a property --- This setup I'm using goes dishy 2 --> old ass donated nighthawk router ---> eero for 3 points + a TP link for a new big ass TV in the garage I wanted to make a movie/football room

My simple setup was 3 eero nodes and dishy with the stock router! You can cover some decent ground with that. If you're feeling like your setup is aging that's an easy solution

I use a eero mesh system. Easy to use and administer

Orbi is pretty awful all the way around! They have weird speed drop issues and you have to pay for customer service! I almost went with Ubiquiti but I got a free eero. It’s been problem free for 3 years and I got a real person when I called customer service.

Eero

I think this is the plan for me. I had a Eero modem / router and a mesh extender all from TDS. My house is 3600 square feet on three levels.

Yeah. I get it. I’m being cheap. I guess I’m just hyper sensitive about additional costs. I never planned to leave my TDS Eero 1 gigabyte plan but Spectrum just came into our town and the price was too good. $158 per month for one landline number and 1 gig Internet from TDS vs. $65 per month from Spectrum locked cost for two years for the same services. I tried to negotiate a reduction in my monthly fee with TDS, but they couldn’t or wouldn’t. I can add a Pod or Pods and if one or two make my Internet speed and reception better, so be it. Thank you for your input and knowledge.

Most mesh systems take a few days to adjust and will move channels until it finds the best scenario. Netgear orbi’s do this as well as the eero systems. But once there fully optimized they should be set it and forget it and just work. Speed fluctuations are normal but I did find the eero did have less speed than my netgear with identical locations and settings. So I reset the eero from scratch and then the speed was where it needed to be. I believe it has something to do with firmware as I get the feeling the updates don’t always go well with some older firmware lingering after the upgrade. Reset seems to clear it out

For the average consumer, Eero is a much better fit though. Sure, if you like to tinker or have one off use cases, Unifi is the much better option, but Eero does a great job of providing a product that just works without ever really needing to touch it. I've had Asus, Netgear, Linksys, TP-Link, Google WiFi, and Eero, but I've had meshing issues with all except for Eero. My current setup is Unifi with Eero in bridge mode.

If you have ethernet cabling between floors, use that as much as possible. If not, then it is mesh. One of the best mesh systems on the market is Eero. Solid and super easy to setup and use. That's what I use. You can start with one and only add more devices as you need them. But don't oversaturate your wifi. That creates wifi interference which leads to performance issues.

This is a good recommendation. Eero for simple, plug and play with probably one of the best mesh networks in market today. Ubiquiti if you want more configuration capabilities and have more network know-how.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

I'd recycle your existing cable modem and get a newer Arris Surfboard modem that is a) approved by your ISP, b) handles the bandwidth you're contracted for and c) is just a modem. Not wifi, router, etc. Then get a separate router/ wifi system. If you're looking at plug and play and need mesh, then Eero is a great solution. If you want more configurability and control to manual change settings in your network, then Ubiquiti is a great option. I use both.

You have broadband coax, not fiber. I'd recommend replacing the Xfinity device with a simple Arris cable modem that is approved by Xfinity. Use your own device. Then use your own router/ wifi system. If you want easy, set it and forget it, then Eero is a great solution. If you want more sophistication, then look at Ubiquiti.

EERO is popular because of cost - that is it. I tested them out and they are HORRIBLE in a highly dense area (ie Lots of neighbors with Wifi). UniFi is the best mesh- its what businesses use, but more complex to setup and maintain; not friendly for the consumer market. Depends on your requirements Out of the others I have tested: Orbi - easy to get started; great mesh; CON: Subscription for parental or added security; Not the best speeds (but generally good). Netgear - Same as orbi ASUS ZEN - Fantastic speed; Unbelievable configurability/features; No subscriptions for parental or added security; CON: Milage varies because of quality. Asus notoriously has issues with their firmware and new products. ASUS ROG - Same as ZEN; has more Gimmicks I ended up with the ASUS ZenWiFi BT10 - replaced the Orby Mesh. Very happy . I needed parental and added security; Needed VPN; Needed 10gig / 2.5gig WAN

Side note, I hate deco...I have deco...i hate deco. Had a better experience with eero. Anyways, I ran mine off an eero connection for a time (that wasn't the router) and it worked fine. I would not suggest it though because you will be bandwidth limited within your network. E.g. if you have a torrent downloading at full speed then everything else on your network will experience lag or buffering. Better to have a wired connection to router but if not possible then yes, mesh system is doable but with the bandwidth restriction I just mentioned.

My setup is Modem —> Patch Panel —> Main Eero —> Switch —> Satellite Eeros All of my Eeros are wired with shielded Cat 6E I ran.

Eeros are excellent. most problems people experience usually come down to poor setup. I’ve managed over five systems, and whenever an issue comes up, it almost always turns out to be the ISP, not the Eero.

Eero is also a bad neighbor, especially on the 2.4ghz band. It sticks with 40Mhz and picks any channel it likes, typically polluting the whole spectrum.

No love for TP-Link Deco? I swapped out from eero felt it had better parental controls. After that my wifi speed increased from wifi6 to 7. Obviously it was updated but runs so seamless.

This sounds like a problem that is going to occur regardless of system. Mesh networks are best. Secondly you have to remember these devices perform better and some don't perform at all on a 5Ghtz network. Make sure you're connecting your devices only to the 2.4 band. Lastly you should try changing the channel on your router, you could be getting too much noise. I personally am a huge fan of eero mesh networks. While they are a bit expensive they work absolutely flawlessly and are easy to setup. They also properly seperate out the 2.4/5ghtz networks and allow you to pause 5ghtz for easy smart home device connections.

Eero was great when they first hit the market (Kickstarter). But once they started hiding features behind subscriptions and then got swallowed by Bezos, that was it for me. They might be more expensive, but I would recommend Firewalla over eero, hands down.

Eero is pretty easy.

Wired connections are not possible in this house, so we switched to Eero wireless routers that form a wireless mesh. We have 4 of them dotted around the house, and we can now get 700Mbs in most rooms. They are a bit pricey (£40-£70 each in CEX) and how many you will need will depend on your house.

eero and tp link DECO units are gonna be the best options. i can’t believe no one has said this but orbi has very good options. i have tried tp links one mesh and it has a lot of problems. if your a gamer i wouldn’t buy one tp link router and then have wall access points. get a actual mesh set up as if you want best overall speeds EVERYWHERE then get mesh. deco have very nice, cheap and reliable options, eero is more expensive but has a lot more extensive security settings and parental controls which i do believe is included with the piece if you add there subscription. the biggest thing eero has is, SQM which basically takes network debloating and latency and somehow it fixes it. which is very good for wireless connectivity between mesh devices as if you connected to one satellite mesh network you’ll see a upload latency increase. i think in general the best bang for your buck is tp link. and best overall is orbi. the reason i love orbi is my parents bought the rbr750 or something but it was 6 years ago and it’s still giving the speeds they paid for and still is getting firmware updates. eero is the in between because there a little less than most of the orbi systems i would suggest but have just any the same amount of features. so to sum it up eero is middle ground, orbi is the best, tp link is best bang for buck. hope this helps!

Eero has worked great for me

I had a similar experience but with Netgear Orbi. They gave me so many problems and their support was absolutely horrible. Once I switched to Eero I was delighted. My only wish is that Eero Plus should be cheaper, half price if that.

If you **have to** do a mesh network the eero routers are actually pretty decent. Mesh networks will pretty much always be less performant than access points that are directly plugged into the network, but if you have to do it eero would be my choice. (I had to set up my parents home like this too because they had a similar issue)

Moving from 1950s to 1830s, I had to seriously rethink my network. Instead of a couple Eero nodes I now needed more nodes and Ethernet backhaul. I now have my Maine Eero attached to the utility modem. From the Eero I connect to a switch and ran Ethernet (outside) to each room that has another Eero switch. Each Eero is hardwired to main and provides WiFi in its “zone”. Without it, speed drops to dial up…

It's a "when it works it's great, but when it doesn't, good luck." My eero has been most for the last week. I'm getting gbe to the things but lucky to get 100mbps to devices (where I expect 300 or better). Nothing I can do to troubleshoot.

Yup. The extra cost is that each device is a full blown WiFi router but can easily switch into a mesh style distributed wireless setup. It'll handle everything. If you can wire them to each other, it's as good as having just one really big/strong WiFi signal. Wire them as physically far apart as you wish to extend the WiFi wherever too. If they aren't wired then just be weary and place the nodes with at least an 80% signal back to the primary node. And look into turning your ATT box WiFi off, and set-up "IP-Passthtough" so the eero is dominant.

Eero was pretty easy to set up, if you want a mesh network

I have oxio as well. Most homes have cable already so they just send you the modem and wifi router (Eero). You can just connect it. If it doesn't work, they will send a Cogeco rep. Use the person above you's discount code and you will both get a month free. Oxio is good for people who only want internet in Burlington. I'd highly recommend. If you need support, you can just text them. It's well designed service.

Eero mesh. 6 years, same issues your home has. Masonry, metal lathe here and there. I work remote and need reliable WiFi for very large graphic and architectural software files with shared users at points located remote globally. Eero has been spot on reliable.

I’ve been using an Eero system for 6 years and it has been outstanding. Mine is old and it still works great. My friends and family that got them on my recommendation are also very happy. I tried an Orbi system first and it was horrible! It did not work with the Apple brand devices in the house. Eero is easy to setup and use even if not technically inclined. I have a unRAID server at home with Plex for streaming when on the road and it all works well….

Eero here. Zero issues. KISS.

We successfully use an eero with tmhi.

I run the 22000 version of these in my main home and the wifi6 version in a 2nd home, where they have been for over 4 years now. I have mine wired backhauled and get solid, fast connections with both. I upgraded from a nighthawk router with the 22000's about 6 months ago and saw speed improvements across the board. The app that comes with it is very intuitive and works for me. I have been reading the articles on the possible ban and I am not concerned. I know others will tell you to go cheaper, or avoid TP-Link, and their opinions are just as valid as mine, but for me the TP-Link mesh just works. Other mesh I have tried and not been a fan of include Google and eero. Good luck

Avoid eero for the sole reason that you can't set the channel manually

Eero. Eero mesh system, with 2.4 in compatibility mode. Works 100% of the time for me.

As a former Google and Unifi user.. and current Eero user...I 100% agree with this.

Maybe others had better luck with the 4921 but I found it worthless. I went through 5 of them before I tired of the constant disconnects from various smart devices. When I moved around the house, they didn't hand-off so I'd have to turn cycle wifi off and on on my tablet or phone. The eeros I purchased have worked well, no disconnects, they hand off, have twice the range Amy wifi speed is faster.

I have a tri-level home with 3 Eero units. I have the base unit next to my AT&T fiber gateway on the upper floor, one in a receptacle bracket in my dining room on the middle floor and one in my garage on the bottom floor at the opposite end of the dining room unit. I'm using wifi only to connect all three and have no gaps in coverage. I have wifi cameras on the front, back and each end of the house and one out on my storage shed about 75 feet from the house. I can walk anywhere on my property and have no less than 40 to 45% signal strength.

I think Eero would be the most plug and play option. I've used TP-Link and they're decent but unclear political situation / possible ban. Ubiquiti/Unifi if you want to tinker and manage their network remotely (expensive)

I have used them at my sister's and my dad's homes to try and get reliable WiFi everywhere and been extremely disappointed. They would work, to an extent, and the extent would vary on the weather, phase of the moon idk. Sections would just drop off the network, bandwidth would fall so streaming stopped, sometimes huge packet loss so video calls would adaptively choose the lowest resolution. In both cases, I swapped them for Eero mesh system. So easy to setup - just do a walking survey to find a good spot to place each mesh unit. No more network issues for either of them now, crystal clear HD video calls. Lots of ISPs give Eeros now as main routers, and lots of them are bad at retrieving them after the end of the contract, so they're readily available second hand on eBay etc.

Eero does QoS. Just saying…

I've seen people with up to 7 Eero's without issue. If you need to scale beyond that then you're in to enterprise territory. I think that a lot of people in this space treat their home network like a toy, I'm a network engineer by trade and get plenty of configuration opportunity at work, when I get home I just want to walk in and have the wifi working.

Unfortunately I'm old school when it comes to gaming and have everything hardwired there. I believe that Eero does have SQM, but I doubt you have any sort of granular per device control. I will say, though, that Eero at least has a minimum of functions. I had worked with a Google Home Wifi system that you couldn't even adjust DNS settings on or disable the 5GHz band temporarily.

My eero system has been rock solid. The app is great.

It’s just a clean looking app that you can assign a profile (person) to each device. You can then look by profile where each device is connected to or look at a particular base station to see what devices are connected to it. It would be cool if you could manually make a device connect to a particular base station. Overall they seem to connect to the closest one but sometimes you see a device and wonder why it connects to that one. Very easy to set up a guest network.

Eero. Came with my router. No problems.

100% this advice. Your network will be snappier, more stable and robust when you wire your nodes together. No matter how fast WiFi claims to be, wired will almost always be faster. If you are already open to running ethernet drops, and don't mind turning networking into a hobby, Unifi is a pretty good option with lots of options. I know a couple of people who run them and are quite happy. It is a bit of work to get it sorted out and installed, but people seem to be pretty happy with them. If you're more of a set it and forget it kind of person, eero is a pretty good solution. I've been using different iterations of their products for nearly 10 years and have had good experiences across them all.

one hundo! I was using wireless backhaul for years, thinking "it's fine, why should I bother wiring things together?" I recently decided to wire up my home, and connect my eeros together with wired backhaul. Everything is snappier, network is overall faster and my eeros actually run a lot cooler too.

If your modem is also acting as a router, this layout will work if you turn off the wifi on your modem/router and then set up the eero system in bridge mode. This means the eero is only providing wifi on your network. I have it set up this way due to wifi TV set-top boxes that require the provider's router to be in place, and it works great.

I second the Eero. I had one for years before moving to Ubiquiti. It was rock solid and easy to manage. Coverage was good.

Any type of mesh WiFi systems with 3 pods will work wonderful. Most popular is Eero and you don't even need the latest newest generation. Only thing you need to make sure is the base for the mesh has open wired connection for the one wired work computer or that your cable modem has an extra port or more.

Nothing is overkill vs concrete walls. If you are forced to do mesh, place APs so they have direct line-of-sight through the least dense materials possible, such as wood doors, to reach the next node or device. Any system will do but I would go with the Eeros.

2nd this answer. I love my Eeros. Has been solid with my HomeKit environment

Same, I don't get the hate. Cheap, easy to set up and maintain, good signal throughout my living space It was definitely an upgrade from the more expensive Nest system I was using

i've been through them all. Definately Moca instead of powerline if you have the cable run. used moca with old routers and used 1 as AP and worked great. if you have an older house with older wiring, powerline can have potential problems. I used powerline sucessfully (80's house) then moved to moca for higher speeds before i eventually wired my house with ethernet. currently running 3 eeros all hardwired.

Att equipment is utter junk. Eeros will absolutely work better. Like others said if you can wire in as many as possible it will drastically help. Plus eero tech support is pretty good and would help you figure out some dead spots and how to combat them (with more eeros of course 😉) Send that ATT crap back to the peddlers. The only thing their routers are good for is pass through. However I am sure they will remove that feature before long. It's all about the data, and pass through removes a chunk of data for them to access.

Eeros are great. Again, most of the time it’s because people set the up horribly if they have issues. I have 5+ systems and every time there is an issue, it’s the ISP

This is spot on. Your home network? Have at it… do Ubiquiti. But for most people who come to this sub (or your grandma), eero is great for what it is, easy ui and is set it and forget it. It gets hate, but I have 6 systems installed that have had zero problems. Totally ended the calls about wifi, and when they’re wired backhaul even better!

When I first went with eero it was amazing. Worked right out of the box. I’ve upgraded 1 or 2 times since then. For me it still works fine but I swear the signal strength has reduced some. If you have Ring, they have a cool integration (if you use Eero as a router) that will provide you a few gigs of cellular backup if your primary WAN goes offline, as part of the ring subscription. I no longer use it as a router though, just APs, but disappointed sometimes at the speeds or signal strength, I have 3 units around my house (Eero pro 6e) and have been thinking of trying to improve the placement or go elsewhere for WiFi signal.

I use Eero and plug my PS5 into one of the wireless nodes. Works fantastic.

I got rid of my Orbi system and switched back to eero. Won’t make the mistake of buying Netgear again. I’ve always regretted.

I love unifi, but if you’re looking for a mesh networking solution that works without a wired backhaul then eero is genuinely better than unifi. It’s infuriating for a network geek because you can’t see how it’s doing it, it optimises itself (Desist! I want to be in charge!), it’s all proprietary and there’s no web interface to geek out in… but my experience is that if you just buy enough eeros and scatter them around then it does generate a really annoyingly good result which is better than even an optimised unifi network trying to use mesh WiFi only.

I vote for Eero as well. I set up 6 of them and covered a 2 acre area including a 4 story house, a 4 car garage, another 2 story house, a 2800 sq foot barn and a tiny house. They are simple, self-updating, secure, easy to set up and they have great support.

Having kids who run everywhere for wifi, eero is simply the best. Set it, forget it, and it's simplified my life. That is worth the cost to me.

Deco is never a "better value", it just low end,, cheap junk, that will give you nothing but issues Stick with Eero; its a ton better than the bottom of the barrel Deco junk

Very happy with our Eero setup. Originally looked at the ubiquiti as well but the idea of running Ethernet through my 100 yr old house would have been a real pain. Plugged in the main Eero hub and another Beacon on the 2nd floor, very seamless. When I wanted to plug in an Ethernet device in the basement, just added another extender there, boom, done.

If you can afford it, get Eero - very easy set up and work much better than TP link

Also have an eero, but unfortunately there's no way to turn off automatic updates

Look at TP-Link Deco or Eero. Both are solid mesh options. With 2 floors and a basement, a mesh system with wired backhaul (if you can run Ethernet) will give you the best performance. You can always start wirelessly and run cables later if needed. Just make sure whatever you get supports Wi-Fi 6. It'll handle gaming, streaming, and working better than anything else.

I used to ride on orbi, always had problems. Moved to eero maybe 4 years ago now, and i havent had a single issues.. its been 100% rock solid perfect. I hope y’all do yourselves a favor and upgrade during Black Friday sales

I used amplifi mesh with 4 points for about 8 years and it was still fine. Recently moved to a smaller house and don’t need as much coverage and new provider uses eero. Amplifi went through brick to the outdoor patios. It was terrific. Very much plug and play with no hiccups. I like the eero app for turning off WiFi to teenagers on school nights. :) Miss the amplifi cube for monitoring activity. All that said, I bought the amplifi 8 years ago so it’s probably outdated, but it was muscular enough to get four of us through working and schooling from home through the pandemic and beyond.

If your setup doesn't work, you can always buy a third Eero and place it between the modem and switch. I do something similar, though all three are within the interior of my home.

Eero is pretty solid overall. Eero subreddit is the reason I got into Firewalla hardware because I didn't want a subscription and wanted good hardware. It was what was recommended a lot with people running Firewalla as the router and Eero as an Access point.

Eero is good with wireless backhaul

My eero work damn good from best buy

What was the perfect position for the Eero is probably not the perfect position for the AP7's. Antenna orientation and power levels are certainly going to be different. If you are only getting -76dB at 8 feet line of sight, it seems likely something else is going on. That said, generally I would expect to have to re-tune the location and power levels when switching brands of access points in order to maximize performance.

Hardest part of Unifi is figuring out where you'll run their controller, which is easier if you plan on having one of their routers. I would recommend not running it yourself unless you want A Project... I've had dumb shit happen too many times (eg. mongodb upgrade issues) for me to do that again. Also, I would plan on having all of their APs hardwired back to the switch. If you want "mesh" I think I would go Eero or another brand that specializes in that.

Eero's some times go on good black Friday sales and is very good mesh for someone with low experience, simple to setup and use