eero - eero Max 7

I find the WiFi mesh capability of the eero (particularly the Max 7 units) excellent, with the routing features much as you say. Not much in the way of configuration and even then some features require a subscription. What I've done is gone with a different brand of router that has the configurability I want, run that with WiFi disabled, and use the eero system in bridge mode for the whole home WiFi.

I have the same Synology router and love it but did not find its mesh capability reliable. What I’ve done is add several eero mesh units (Max 7), turned WiFi off on the Synology and set the eeros to run in bridge mode. In this way the Synology does the routing providing me with a user interface I’m familiar with and all controls I could need (with no subscription fees) and the whole home WiFi mesh is provided by eero. It’s been working well and all users in the house have been very happy. Because you already own the Synology, which is a very good and capable router, you might want to consider doing something similar. All the eeros are connected by Ethernet so wired backhaul which is always my preference when possible. It sounds like that option will be available to you based on the wiring in your new home.

I had three Pro 6s and was hoping to replace with two Max 7s. But had too many devices slip to 2.4 GHz when I did and ended up moving to three Max 7s. Still happy with the upgrade because there is way less performance degradation when connecting to a remote eero node. I’m in a two story home with a basement with primary node in the basement due to cable modem location.

I just bought the Max 7 (3 unit) setup for my wireless backhaul setup. While I don’t have any WiFi 7 devices yet I wanted it to maximize the wireless backhaul and 1 GB ISP and future proof. I would think anything in the WiFi 7 family will see a good improvement on the wireless backhaul.

We started with a TP-Link BE95 setup and ended up returning them because of the device and internet drops. Seems to be a common issue with their brand and no telling if they will ever get that fixed with firmware updates. Also very confusing with multiple SSID’s for 2.4/5 GHz, 6 GHz and MLO. Felt like maybe the speed and range was slightly better than Eero but reliability was terrible. We switched over to a three unit Eero Max 7 setup and been very happy. Haven’t had any disconnects or internet drops since we switched and the system has been up for about three weeks now. While I don’t own any WiFi 7 devices we wanted to future proof plus we are running a wireless backhaul setup so figured the routers would benefit talking to each other with the better technology. BestBuy has a pretty good deal going on now. It’s on sale for $165 off of a two unit setup and $340 off the three unit setup. They also had a trade-in offer where you bring any old networking device for them to recycle and they give you a 15% off coupon. That brings the price down to $836 for a two unit setup and $1156 for the three unit.

TP Link is having quite the (deserved) shit storm right now. FYI. They've been the subject of state-sponsored snooping/firmware related warnings & articles for years now. It's finally coming to a head. IF your criteria is solidly WiFi 7 w/wireless backhaul, if you have a higher budget, and if you don't need to create VLANs or strictly segregate clients by network, the Eero Max 7 is a phenomenal piece of hardware. 4x4 MIMO on both 5 GHz and 6 Ghz bands, 10 gig ports for future high split cable & fiber bumps, excellent hardware antenna array design. If you want to save some cash, you can use a Max 7 as gateway & get a Pro 6E as mesh node to utilize 6 Ghz backhaul. With VLAN or specific client band considerations, you'll have to look elsewhere than Eero. Just be mindful of getting at a minimum 4x4 on the 5 Ghz band. Preferably a 4x4 radio on the 6 Ghz band as well. Many "prosumer" devices cheap out on hardware with 2x2 radios only, and you really do want 4x4 in a brand new router. Even to single clients (increased range & link quality).

When you're talking Wifi speed versus the Orbi or TP Link solution, are you looking at benchmarks? Friends with the systems giving you info? The product website? Asking so that I can figure out your frame of reference. I've had the Max 7 for months and it's worked well for traditional Wifi 6 clients, Wifi 6E clients, and now clients that are capable of WiFi 7. I will say that the WiFi 7 clients are battery powered, and aren't using the MLO functionality of WiFi 7. I've seen 1800 Mbps real world speed via ISP to servers using a WiFi 7 smartphone client with the Max 7 (320 Mhz 6 Ghz). Pure link speeds to the device are much higher obviously, but don't account for mitigating factors.

For what it’s worth. The Max is worth it. I just went from a 2x mesh Linksys system that got around 300 everywhere around the house other than the room with the router and that was around 600. Now with a single Max 7 everywhere in the house is 850/900. I have a 900 down internet line so thats now my limiting factor. The Max 7 is the best piece of tech gear I’ve bought in a long time. Super impressed.

As I understand it the third band will speed up back haul and the mesh in general. One thing I’ve noticed with the max 7 is all my WiFi 5 and 6 devices are basically max speed all the time now.

I just replaced my Orbi seven mesh system for an EERO max seven. Same experience. Once you have reliable Wi-Fi, it’s hard to understand how we tolerated the Orbi for so long. I really wanted to make it work! Good luck with it!

16 pro max does indeed have wifi 7. The biggest difference between pro and max seems to be throughput potential - both of which will really only show if you're using wifi 7. 7 max has a theoretical 4.3gbps max throughput, the pro is somewhere in the 3 range if I reember right. Likewise the max has two 10gbps ports and two 2 gbps, pro 7 has two 5gbps only. Max claims somewhat better coverage - but I'm in around a 3000 square foot house and the 3 pack of eero 7 pro has my house blanketed with wifi (may add an outdoor one over the summer). Until wifi 7 is really 'around' at your place you're unlikely to see a huge improvement - that 503.11ab ad 6ghz is where it's going to shine the strongest. All of that having been said, if you have the 1 gig from fios, and no plans or ability to upgrade, there's really no benefit to going with the max at all - you're not going to see faster throughput than what comes into your house (obviously if you have internal resources, that may change things dramatically, but for streaming etc...you won't see a difference). For real world comparison: I upgrade from a 9 year old first gen orbi mesh to the eero 7 pro and saw my wifi speeds (on wifi 7 devices) go from around 350mbps up to 700-800. It's a SUBSTANTIAL improvement. I think price drops are unlikely since they're still relatively new devices.

I've been super pleased with my Eero Max 7 based network that I've had over a year now.

Possibly but my gut tells me no, one Max 7 won't be. One Max 7 is rated at 2500sq ft at BEST case with no walls. I would start with one and see how it performed and if your budget allows, add a second Eero. I'm covering an estimated 6500 sq ft(including garage and some yard area) with 4 Max 7's. I used to have 6 Eero 6 pros covering the same area.

Well done! I wish I could with my house. 2 didn’t even come close for me.

Using Eero for the past 8 years.

I've been on Eero for a number of years now upgrading to Max7's a year ago and its been rock solid for me and impressive throughput.

I've been testing the Eero lineup against other competitors. The Max's are great but not that much better than the Pros. A lot of your performance will be up to capabilities of your client devices. Other comments about channel optimization are completely valid, Eero along with some others out there take a day or two to optimize their channel selection. It doesn't set a good impression on day one but gets better over time. Pricing wise I'd never spend what they're asking from retail on my own home network, but then again I'm spoiled from getting lots of free stuff working in the industry. The reality is, I haven't come across many situations where WiFi speeds are actually the root cause of issues on a given application in the home. Throughput testing is fun for easy bragging rights but I believe consistency and reliability are the most important parts of a good home wifi. Believe it or not, most high priced enterprise grade equipment will yield lower throughput tests than the retail home stuff, for good reason. They're tuned to service large numbers of clients with consistency, over servicing a few clients with truckloads of data. The reasoning behind this is, at a high level, if the CEOs web conference isn't silky smooth, nobody's gonna give a damn if it takes 5 extra minutes for a giant download to complete. They're tuned to deliver consistent and stable service as a priority, not drag race. Eero's new lineup has some of the best chips available in the industry, but IMO its overpriced. I do think performance will get better over time as newer clients become available and get better at using OFDMA(WiFi 6) and MLO(WiFi 7). 6GHz is a great addition but it's unfortunate that its optional for anything branded WiFi7, not mandatory. It's also at a disadvantage now with being locked in low power mode until we get a proper AFC system in place. That will allow them to unlock and operate at roughly twice the power levels they're limited to today in most scenarios. Making those extreme wide 320MHz channels work at higher rates through more walls. Sorry I got a little carried away there, dont know where I was headed 😅

I use an Eero POE Gateway as my main gateway and a switch. 3 of me Max 7s come out of my POEgateway and are APs

I have a 6400 sq ft house with 3 floors, when I connected my first Max7 as primary every device in the house connected.

I have 4 hardwired but I’m just saying they have great range.

Replace units with Max7s and you will at least double your range and signal strength.

Same.

This. I have Gigabit. My ONT is in the corner of my house in the basement. Its currently connected to a MAX7. It may make sense to buy a Eero 7, use it as a gateway, and move the MAX to a more useful location.

The 16 pro has a 2x2 radio for 5ghz and 6ghz. It should be able to get 500+ on 5ghz and well over 1gb on 6ghz. I have 3 max’s and a 16 pro max and get 1+gbps almost everywhere in the house. I would disconnect the 2 that are not connected to the modem and see what speeds you get on your phone. If that fixes it, maybe hardwire the other 2 so they can get the full speed. Also make sure 6ghz is enabled on your iPhone.

I used the Eero max 7 for 2 weeks before sending it back to my ISP. I hated that thing. Its WiFi 7 speed was about the same as my WiFi 6 router (amplifi alien) but its range and reliability was far worse. I swapped out my old router for it without my wife knowing and within 4 hours my wife told me that the WiFi felt different. She was experiencing buffering during zoom calls and having issues loading pages on her iPhone. By the end of the first 3 days she requested that I fix the issue. This was my second Eero device (the first one came with my house) and both resulted in the same outcome. I don’t recommend the brand at all.

Oops, it was Eero Max 7. Not pro. That was a foolish mistake. It was provided by my ISP so I never did the research and didn’t realize the difference between max and pro. The hardware looked similar to the Pro.

And my eero 7 Max has 2 10Gbps ports.

Firewalla Gold+ / eero 7 maxs I have over 190 devices.

Eero works great.

Left Google WiFi Pro for eero Max 7 system. Went from 5 nodes with google to 2 max 7’s and couldn’t be happier. Most 6e devices take advantage of the WiFi 7 with throughput speeds being what your actual ISP is providing and less congestion.

I've been beating my head against the BQ16/BE30000 unit for almost a month with Asus support. Was an absolute shitshow. Got it for testing and could potentially replace the Eero Max7 I just purchased a bit over a month ago. Like many, I had issues with smart devices in my house, but Asus support finally worked out things for me to set to make it work reliably - disabled the MLO on the IOT network and disabled 2.4GHz totally on the main network. And once I did that, my smart devices around my house (about 140 of them) all came online and worked again. Prior to those changes they all showed as connected devices with IP's but everything showed offline in all the smart apps. My issue with the Wifi7 network and local file copy speeds to my media center PC and my Synology DS1821+ both of which are on my wired 10GB network. With the Eero my file copies are consistently 230 to 240MB/s with peaks up over 250MB/s. With the Asus, nothing that their support has been able to have me try has been able to get it to consistently even hit 140. Mostly it hangs around 120 or so. Huge speed drop for me, and since I just upgraded my house to 10GB so that I'd get better file copy speeds from my new Surface Pro 11 to the wired devices on my network, that's the dealbreaker for me. But if you're only worried about IOT and internet, the BE30000 works well for that once things are tweaked a bit for people who have issues with the 2.4GHz devices.

The best options in terms of performance but not cost: (cost would be inverse) - eero gateway - eero 7 max - eero 7 pro - eero 6e (consider getting one used if you can) - eero 6 pro or any other eero with 2 wired ports If you have 2 gig internet the best options are probably the eero gateway or one of the eero 7s.

I use Eero in bridge mode

Am on Eero with 73 devices in bridge mode, zero issues

actually it has got cheaper. a year ago nothing wifi 7 was under 1400 dollars, 3 pack of Eero pro 7 for 699, thats a steal considering that last year one max 7 for 600

I have used the orbi WIFI 7 970 , eero max wifi 7, TP link 11000 wifi 7 and Asus be30000. Every single unit from all of the different brands are plagued with massive issues. Constant drops, devices refusing to connect, disconnects, range issues and instability between router and satellites. It's so bad that I returned every single one I used and picked up an eero 6E. I have had 0 issues on 6E. In my opinion wifi 7 is nowhere near ready for primetime and is an utter joke. To sum this up avoid wifi 7 like a plague (at least for now)

I would agree, I have 2gig fiber and upgraded from a 3 pack Orbi system (generation before the wifi7) and when I first installed the eero max7s my phone would switch to 6 and I didn't see much improvement. It's been a week and my phone stays on wifi 7 and I pull 1.2gb constantly now. All devices are humming along and overall coverage is good. Give it some beats and you should be good.

They are both built with inherently different design philosophy. Eero is designed to be easy - easy to manage, to setup, and to modify. Great for the end user, but you’re also stuck with auto pilot for most of the function. To combat this Eero does include some pretty great tech, but you’re left with very few options to troubleshoot and modify on your own. Deco can be great, and can be easy but is built on a more traditional platform. I was an asus user for years, but recently switched over to eero for 7 max because I’ve grown tired of troubleshooting asus with all its great insights and tools, but constant issues… most traditional brands have an easy mode these days, but eero stands out as the one that is built for it. That said, I’m surprised your friend didn’t recommend ubiquity instead. I don’t know many professionals recommending eero specifically because of how little control you get to manage your own network, where ubiquity is known for its reliability and customization.

Depends on what your definition of breaking the bank is, but I would get a couple of Max 7. If you wait a year, undoubtedly it will be less expensive, though it is on sale now too. I don't think it makes much sense to buy anything older if you're looking to future proof, and the performance differential is night and day if you'll be using wireless backhaul.

The Max 7 is nowhere near that price range. I would wait a year, eero may have more cost efficient WiFi 7 options by then.

I had the TP-LINK BE85 and hated it. All my Nest cameras disconnected from it. Switched to the Eero 7 Max and could not be happier. Eero has the best reputation for having mesh systems that work fantastically out of the box with no further tinkering. They may not be the fastest out there, but they don't disappoint.

I’m surprised you’re getting poor performance on wifi. I only have the 6e and I get 1.5 gbps wireless. You should be getting no less than that with the improvements in power and antennas the 7 max has. https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/6530718925

Two eero 7 max

Ordered a 2 pack to go along with the 3 Max 7s that are inside my house. I already have some old TP link routers with a POE++ switch so it’ll be an easy swap out of the old APs

I use one on one level of my house. It’s ok, but it’s not as good as the Max7s on the other 2 levels.

If you have ethernet cabling between floors, use that as much as possible. If not, then it is mesh. One of the best mesh systems on the market is Eero. Solid and super easy to setup and use. That's what I use. You can start with one and only add more devices as you need them. But don't oversaturate your wifi. That creates wifi interference which leads to performance issues.

This is a good recommendation. Eero for simple, plug and play with probably one of the best mesh networks in market today. Ubiquiti if you want more configuration capabilities and have more network know-how.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

Just keep in mind a couple of things. 1. You have a 1Gbps connection. So, unless you're planning to upgrade that or have local network devices that you're communicating with >1Gbps, then the network speed >1Gbps will minimal if not detectable. 2. Most residential use cases will never fully tap 1Gbps. 4K streaming, video game playing, video conferencing, etc doesn't actually use that much bandwidth even if you have several people doing it at the same time. I'm not suggesting that your thinking of going wifi 7 isn't wrong. Just setting expectations depending on your needs/ uses. The 6E (and Pro 6 before that) is plenty of capability for the vast majority of users. If you do go wifi 7, then avoid the Eero 7 and focus on the Pro 7 and Max 7 to get the 6Ghz radio.

Just keep in mind a couple of things. 1. You have a 1Gbps connection. So, unless you're planning to upgrade that or have local network devices that you're communicating with >1Gbps, then the network speed >1Gbps will minimal if not detectable. 2. Most residential use cases will never fully tap 1Gbps. 4K streaming, video game playing, video conferencing, etc doesn't actually use that much bandwidth even if you have several people doing it at the same time. I'm not suggesting that your thinking of going wifi 7 isn't wrong. Just setting expectations depending on your needs/ uses. The 6E (and Pro 6 before that) is plenty of capability for the vast majority of users. If you do go wifi 7, then avoid the Eero 7 and focus on the Pro 7 and Max 7 to get the 6Ghz radio.

Biggest two issues of late with TP-Link are: 1. Frequently very long waits between TP-Link firmware updates, frequently 5 or more months. By comparison, eero is releasing updates at least once a month. 2. Multiple reported security flaws in TP-Link routers, the 7777 botnet being the latest, with no word from TP-Link about when or if they will patch the flaws 3. Currently getting similar speeds with my Max 7’s and my TP-Link routers, sometimes better with the Max 7’s.

The Max 7 is bigger than the 7 Pro, mainly because the Max 7 has 4 ports vs 2 ports in the Pro 7

Agreed, the final hardware version is excellent in performance. I even get the same wireless speeds as with the Max 7 (1600-1900 Mbps up and down) which is quite impressive.

Well Got 5gig Fiber installed last week an they provided a 7max and I bought a 6e for Mesh. Got is on Amazon and it was cheaper but not a cheap as the 7. Either way about 1 week with that setup with no issues. (5 Gig fiber into a fiber converter, into 7max 10g port, the other10gig port into a 10gig port Switch with 8 2.5gig ports. one of the 2.5 gig ports on 7max plugged into 2.5 port on 6e) No issues as of now with Hard wired or Wireless

I have max 7 and 1g internet and i get 1.12Gbps download on the eero app. Speedtest is 1118 Mbps download

I first bought into eero via a set of refurbished OG pros. If you can find a refurb max 7, that’s probably the way to go.

Yep, sold on amazon as such

So I can take the Max 7 out of my closet where the networking is and use it elsewhere in the house where I can really see the benefits. That's a win for me. I'm using Wi-Fi 7 phones and my next devices will also be wi-fi 7.

I’d Go Eero 7, snag a refurbished model on ebay for ~$300 Stay away from 6e Dong is very anti eero for whatever reason, and i hear your frustration on the eero + paywall. If those are a deal breakers id look elsewhere…but in terms of the most reliable, consistent, stable, mesh routers nothing beats the Eero Max 7.

I’d Go Eero 7, snag a refurbished model on ebay for ~$300 Stay away from 6e Dong is very anti eero for whatever reason, and i hear your frustration on the eero + paywall. If those are a deal breakers id look elsewhere…but in terms of the most reliable, consistent, stable, mesh routers nothing beats the Eero Max 7.

You don't mention a price. To temper expectations here, there's no Wi-Fi system mesh or using ethernet backhaul that will consistently get you gig speeds for multiple devices.... At least not at distance and let's not even talk about through anything. With that said, out of all of the currently available consumer oriented mesh systems in the US, the Eero Max 7 has been great in testing. It's not always the fastest in throughput. But the connections have been more stable and with consistently low latency compared to other systems like Orbi and Google. If you are looking for something more capable in terms of network insight, Firewalla has added WiFi 7 desktop/table APs to their eco system. I haven't personally tested their APs. But people seem to generally rank them near the Eero Max 7 in terms of performance. Firewalla would be more prosumer, but it's still easy enough and primarily controlled with a cell phone app like most of the other consumer mesh systems. For prosumer single pane management you have Unifi, TPLink Omada and Aruba Instant On (100% cloud based controller). Unifi has a big fanboi base. I'm a recovering Unifi fanboi, sober for a couple years now. I'd personally go Omada in this space if only because they use better socs, Qualcomm (Omada) vs Mediatek (Unifi). The other issue with Unifi is their software is pretty much always in a beta state unless you stay quite a few releases behind and that release you are staying on is fully functional for you.

Are you hardwired together? You will never achieved perfect throughput without running Ethernet. eero mesh is good but all mesh systems will never compete with hardwired in. I have the Poe gateway plus two eero pros 7 and two max’s. Hardwired. Get full bandwidth almost in every spot in my house. Spend a weekend running Ethernet. My house is 300 years old and I did it. Best decision ever

The eero 7 has been very impressive in my beta testing. But I’ll say that they won’t replace my Max 7s lol.

They allow testers. I was one for eero 7. Very solid. I got 1100 mbps down on 5ghz at times. And my iPhone is WiFi 6.

I'm on eero in... 6 households (parents, siblings, etc). Some have 1st gen that are still working (no updates) and some have Max 7. It's still the easiest and best I've used. Velop drove me mad, Orbi was ok but sometimes unstable and an eyesore. Asus XT something (I forgot) I used for 3 days and returned due to frequent lost of wifi. I'm a power user and I now ended using pfsense for the router aspect because I needed somethings on the firewall side that the eero couldn't do but most users won't ever need in a home environment.

I just swapped from TP-Link BE11000 to the Eero Max 7. Which Eero are you using? My entire network is ethernet backhauled. My trouble was compatibility outdoor Deco units and the BE11000 ethernet backhaul bugs. I had engineering tickets and night sessions with them via TeamViewer where they were reviewing the network for 4 months. I’ve probably given them 10-12 hours at least if my time. They acknowledged that the system had issues with stopping the wireless backhaul all the time and would cause jumps between wireless to wired if both were options. The most recent firmware was part of the betas that I was working with them on. Still had issues with clients being online in Deco without IPs, without MACs, or showing online and not being able to connect. Eero 7s just had a deal at Best Buy for buy 3 get 1 free for 1200. Worked flawlessly from setup and haven’t had to tweak the system at all. There’s still multiple bugs across Deco devices that I think they spread themselves too thin. Their backend architecture isn’t that strong. What’s the performance you’re seeing? iPhone 14 chips are missing 6GHz but otherwise should function pretty well on the Eero 6 and above. How do your channels look on the busyness and background noise? Ethernet are you getting full speed on the nodes?

Hey friend, assuming you're correct about still using an eero Gen2, then you're limited on bandwidth. The eero Gen2 can only support approx 550mb max so you're paying extra for gig speeds when your router cant support that fast of a speed. Your MBP can't utilize the 6ghz signal from Wifi 7 or 6e but perhaps other devices you own can. But there are other benefits to upgrading such as bandwidth as already mentioned. I'd likely not recommend the eero 7 (base model) to anyone as its not a huge improvement for normals over the eero 6+. If you have devices that can utilize 6ghz, then you can look at the eero 6e pro and eero 7 (pro and max). The eero 7 (base) to me seems like a very bad product to buy. There are very few wifi 7 devices out there at the moment, and if you did have one, why would you pay extra for a new router that cant use the 6ghz freq that your shiny new device expects? Others are free to correct me if anything I've said is wrong.

I just created an entirely new eero 7 ecosystem and it sucks

I am very happy with my eero 7.

Eero 7 is best around

I dunno about that take to be honest. For those who have gigabit home fiber like myself, the Pro 6 units are rock solid and have never experienced downtime while running a household of 6 users with over 50 devices. The Pro 6E for sure had its issues and like others have stated, the single 2.5Gbps port was a head scratcher. The newly released 7 is good on price point but will not make me jump at it and abandon my Pro6 which has the 4x4 @5.8 GHz. The Pro 7 is nice but at $300 per unit, I am happy with what I have and have no issues with gigabit service to my home.

Probably should just get a new eero or two. While having a million eeros around can be counter productive - more is generally better and they are backwards compatible. Not sure the latest eero vs Google WiFi head to head results but in most cases your dollar and performance will go further upgrading the mesh you have. Re: living room - I wonder if the eeros are a little too close.

Yup. And system can mean just one. In fact I'd recommend getting the best one you can afford (new eero 7 might be overkill but 6e should work) vs a bundle of cheaper ones unless the bundle is insanely cheap. It's less that the eero is too close to the computer and more them being being close to each other. There's some direct interference but moreso your computer and eeros (which try to help find the best connection) are probably is getting confused what to best connect to. Obviously you don't want them a mile apart either. Think of it this way - your eeros have some tricks up their sleeves to connect to each other but it's rare that main eero talking to repeater then talking to your computer is going to be better for stability than main eero talking directly to your computer (when repeater and comp are in same spot).

so if i have the pro 6E right now which has support for 6ghz for my MacBook and iPhone, the new eero 7 wont support the ghz band? so would my devices just use 5ghz? I'm confused

so it doesnt support the 6ghz band that my MacBook and iPhone use? would it just use the normal old 5ghz band? because a new 3 pack of eero 7's is cheaper then my current 3 pack of pro 6e's I have now, so something isn't making sense

No 6ghz... No thanks. My macs and iphones are all wifi 6

no 6ghz band which the latest iphone and macs use

Ya i meant the eero 7 not the pro

Same question here. No 6ghz band is whack..

The eero 7 is what the 6e should have been with 2! 2.5 ports….

I’ll go with eero 7, not super configurable. But reliable and easily can handle the 100 devices

I’m a 20+ year IT professional. I’ve installed and configured enterprise networks, I’ve been in freezing network closets at 4am troubleshooting, I’ve run CAT5, CAT5e, and CAT6 through floors and walls and ceilings and attics. I thankfully now at the most just make incremental FW changes to aid the business but I still have extreme Cobbler’s Syndrome. So I bought an Eero 3 pack for less than half the needed budget for a Ubiquiti setup. It took maybe an hour and most of that was unplugging old access points and fiddling with really long and tangled network cables. It’s fast, it’s stable, it’s easy, and it’s cheaper than the prosumer solutions I looked at. If home networking is a fun hobby for someone then that person will enjoy the complex stuff. But most people just want their internet to work well and otherwise not think about it.

Yeah, not true haha. New Eero and Orbi's for example don't support this.

Another great experience with eero + HomeKit here. I have used them together for years and I have nothing but reliable service to report.

No. Nest sucks. Deco or Eero if you want mesh.

I can’t get my speed up on these routers! I have 2.5gbs symmetric att fiber, eero app never reports more than 800mbs down and 95mbs up. WiFi speeds never faster than 500-600mbs down even when using WiFi 7 devices. Att router is in pass through and always reports full speed directly. I’m also getting no help from eeros tech support or Reddit.

This approach works for most people: start with 1 Eero (or Google Wi-Fi, or …), placed in the center of your home. You may be surprised by how well everything works with just 1 router, even with a lot of solid walls. But if you have a dead spot, place a 2nd Eero half way between the first Eero and the dead spot. Repeat until no more dead spots.

100% spend the $ to get it ethernet done to each wifi point. I am a big fan of Eero wifi units if going wireless or Google if going wired btw. Google wifi uses the 6e wifi as wireless backhaul witch seems to have issues over 2 floors

Same. I really like the eero. The app is great too

Get eero or Tplink, you'll be fine. I went through 2 Google mesh systems and now leave them alone. BTW you don't need the wifi 7 or even 6E. Save some money unless you have Gigabit internet, then go crazy.

Best? I dunno. But I've used Eero's for a few years and they've been quite reliable. I wiped them clean and started fresh when I recently moved, and they've been fine here at the new place too. Great coverage, and I have a leftover one that we're going to put in a "she shed" in the backyard to provide coverage to the whole property. I probably don't *have* to, but I'm going to wire that one as well since we're already having electricity run out there

I had Eero at my last place and all was well. Now, same hardware at the new place and I get the same thing on my Google Home (although the Minis seem to stay connected).

I was amazed how bad the eero config options are. An ISP router is way more configurable. Also, with eero, if there is an option, it's probably behind a subscription. Can't really compare it to unifi. Unifi is enterprise and eero is for getting the wifi to work in the bathroom.

Working 100% fine on my Eero mesh network.

Well you failed at that. Your post wasn't informative, it comes across smug, condescending, and with no real information on how to do it correctly. See I put mine in the locations where it was weakest, I bought eeros because that can do wired backhaul. I ran hardwired lines to them, my wifi is fantastic. I've also been doing this for 27 years and try to educate people. If you want your mesh to work wirelessly and extend the range, the nodes have to close enough to each other to get really solid signal strength and radiate our from there, extending coverage. For best performance regardless, and for truly filling in dead spots, they should support and use a wired backhaul. For those that don't know what that means, a backhaul is the channel the mesh uses to communicate and relay traffic. Having that traffic on a wire instead of Wi-Fi frees up space for Wi-Fi traffic, and gives better performance, it is preferred in every way. It gives you more flexibility and it does a better job of filling in dead zones, but running the lines can be a barrier in effort and cost.

I’ve installed upwards of 20 eero networks in my two homes and 18 clients’ homes. Eero has a spotty reputation with some people and I’m not here to engage with those folks. But I’m a Cisco network tech and I can report no problems in my implementations and to boot, I’ve only bought all of these devices secondhand which meant it cost very little for this very successful undertaking.

Eero is pretty dum dum proof

What I liked about the eero vs my older Google WiFi was that I could force 2.4 in the garage so I got better coverage. I’m usually just streaming music but it can then reach the backyard.

If you have to wireless mesh, eero is really good in my experience. Setup is painless and it just works, I’ve only had to reset my network maybe once or twice in the last few years. As others mentioned, if you can do wired backhaul then that’d be ideal.

I would recommend a wireless mesh system. I had Orbi in a 2400 sq ft 3 level home (1 router, 2 satellite units) and Eero in a 2 story 3100 sq ft home (1 router, 1 satellite unit).

Eero for the remote accessibility.

I am genuinely disappointed by how many people suggest Eero over more scalable solutions - especially over UniFi products. I guess Eero does fit the bill for the non-technical user, so it makes sense. Their router and AP’s configuration options are woefully lacking, but again, probably suitable for a non-technical user.

I want that as well, with minimal latency for wired gaming via QoS, which was definitely not an option on Eero.

Yeah my gaming devices are wired, but I still want at least fq_codel going on, and that shouldn’t be a big ask at this day and age. I speculate the specs on the Eero devices might not be beefy enough to handle the QoS while simultaneously maintaining high bandwidth speeds, though. In the very least, I at least know to steer away from Google Home Wi-Fi 😂 appreciate ya for that.

Yeah, I tried them a few years back, looks like the 6/6E models and newer are the only ones to support QoS.

This is anecdata, but I for one have an Eero mesh wifi system, and a number of Sonos speakers, and things have been pretty stable for me over the past year. The app has had problems, to be sure, but “can't detect the speakers” and such hasn’t been a problem here, though I know it has affected lots of other folks. From skimming posts here, there seems to be a pattern that things have generally been stable for other Eero users, too, though I’m sure exceptions to that must exist.

Eero can do a decent job if you are absolutely against wiring in access points. Just temper your expectations. The access points that are furthest away from the gateway will have slower speeds than the access points that are closer to the gateway. Your house’s type of construction will also play role in performance.

Option A. For a similar size space- I have a MT router with WiFi in my main area. 2 decos top floor. Mesh 2nd floor 1 Deco( area isn’t used much) Lowest floor 2 Decos. Option B. Eeros same layout Option C. If you have hard wired runs then an ubiquitous system. Depending on budget Omada would be low end, ubiquity mid range and upper range Ruckus, Juniper, cambium, etc. I’m a Ruckus fan myself. If speed isn’t a concern you can get older AC R510 or 610 with max speed close to a Gig from these, for a good price from eBay. Set them with unleashed firmware and you are good to go. Remember mesh hops create a power loss of 50% each. So if you have 100 at the main floor, the 4th floor will be 12.5. Hope this helps.

Eero works great.

I played around with several router setups until I got tired of fiddling and bought an Eero. Easy to configure and use with the app. There is a great GitHub project you can add to HA that allows you to add a ton of entities including uptime and profile switching. I am building for my kids a pair of mutually assured destruction boxes. They each can turn the other's wifi off for an hour. I used a giant red button connected to an Esp32. This way they can make that threat anytime one picks on the other. Which will in turn induce the other to hit the button and both have to live like dad did when I was their age.

That's the one thing I whoosh it supported better but for a consumer home based device it does more than most, and it auto updates.

Yeah fair enough, i had trouble with them at a previous apartment, i think it was actually tripping my circuit breaker. I currently have Eero mesh and I've had some reliability issues with them (some random disconnects, every new update is a toss up for introducing instability). My PC is plugged directly into my router, but my ping 1 hop away over wifi is only 7ms.

Eero saved my network setup, very reliable

i have the same issue. mesh wifi with ethernet backhaul is the only solution. everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg) if you have coax cable, you can easily use those so no need to run CAT6 cables all over the house

you need mesh. everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg

everyone's fave router is Eero. has both 2.4 and 5 ghz. mesh networking so you get super strong signal everywhere. including the bathrooms lol. easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg](https://youtu.be/ooGnTxTXmRg)

If I had an Eero system with a wired gateway, a wired node, and two wireless nodes, what would that be classified as? I was under the impression that was considered a mesh network, but after reading your explanation, I am second guessing myself.

I had google, but it was constantly giving me issues. I eventually dropped it (and all of my other google smart home devices) and went with eero and have not had any problems with it at all. The eero app is also pretty good too. Edit: I think the best WiFi router system is the one you don’t have to think or worry about.

Right that makes sense. For non IoT devices like phones, laptops, etc, I know with mesh they advertise move freely around the house with seemless switching to best connection. With my eeros and tplink I have noticed this doesn’t actually work when running from one side of the house to the other while on a Teams call. All that to say with a wired backhaul going back to a traditional one router with multiple WAP seems to be the right move. My only question is do devices switch to the best connection automatically. Maybe not seemless like mesh is advertised but will they at least switch if I go from side A to side B of my house?

Would recommend to check out alternates like tplink xe70 /xe75 pro or the eero products. Was recently looking for a good deal and found the tplink xe70pro for around 230 USD on prime day sales. Setting it up was a breeze and am getting around 2G on WiFi on the WiFi 6e devices I have.

I had good luck with Eero, but the problem with Eero is that unless you’re looking to spend serious $ on a Max 7 set, the ports are somewhat limited. The Pro 6E, for instance, has one 2.5gb and one 1gb port. You need to choose between more internal bandwidth or handling up to 2.5gb internet bandwidth but limiting your internal wired devices to 1gb.  I went with the Netgear Orbi 770 last year since every port is 2.5gb. It has been great. 

Eero. You'll never think about wifi again.

I switched to Eero a few years ago. Was having lots of drops and such with my other system. The Eero was a great choice have had nothing but smooth sailing since. Works well all the time.

I’m glad I came across this information. I have been looking at WIFI 7 mesh routers and been thinking about getting the Deco models I have seen on Amazon and at Costco because of their lower prices. I’ll stick with Eero cause they work flawlessly for me.

Eero sucks from a management perspective and interferes with My zigbee network on a similar sized house. Can’t disable the 2.4ghz network either

Eero. I have installed lots of Eero systems over the past 2 years when the customer doesn’t want or need something more substantial like UniFi. I’ve had 0 callbacks. Follow the app and install it properly from the get-go and you’ll be fine.

Eero mesh. Is a router so you’ll save money from ISP. Can mesh as many as you need with other eero APs with Ethernet ports. No more extender BS.

I wish we build the firewalla ap :) but before that, I personally like Eero, they are the most reliable.

They will need to be in "bridge" mode. (AP/bridge are pretty much the same)

EERO works great .

I think that Eeros work very well and would meet your needs. A lot of networking enthusiasts don't love them because they're not as configurable. But they tend to be pretty reliable if you have wired backhaul and don't have any exotic needs.

Basically you have a main eero (which acts as a router)One port on that connects to the ONT/modem and you can connect the other port to a switch and wire the satellitle devices to that. This is how I'm set up more or less. You can daisy chain them too if you prefer, but most people will attach a switch because they want more Ethernet ports.

I'll add that you really shouldn't have your router in a metal cabinet since it kills the wireless signal.

I'm not really sure. One problem would be that if #2 breaks or flakes out somehow it'll screw up #3.

I’ve tried Orbi and Linksys mesh systems and wouldn’t buy them again. Orbi was the absolute worst. Firmware updates would regularly break HomeKit. Linksys was better but still not great. Eero is largely reported as reliable but has almost no customization or configuration. Maybe that doesn’t matter to you but lots of people complain about not being able to change channels and many other basic settings. Synology gets no love because everyone looks at their NAS but overlooks their networking gear. SRM is very easy to use and offers a lot of more advanced features without the mess that is Ubiquity. You can mix and match the units as needed but are very solid.

I have Firewalla Gold in router mode and Eero’s in bridge mode . 100 percent reliable and stable

Eero , built in Zigbee and thread , been using it for 2 years without problems . 4 satellites , can daisy chain or use an Ethernet switch

I think it’s overkill. Eeros have been pretty solid. I bet if you just wired the nodes together it would be fine.

Eero. Got it during Covid as both Wife and I were on zooms. Have a 3 floor house. Absolutely improved quality of WIFI. Highly recommend

Can also add that i’ve had no issues with eero the last few years

I have two eeros with wireless backhaul, which is suboptimal, and there is a noticeable moment as I go down the stairs and switch APs when the connection drops. For example Plex playback (on the new app) pauses for a couple of seconds, facetime calls drop for a second, wifi icon on phone shows connection strength to AP 1 falling and then improving with AP 2.

Great feedback I work for Spectrum and I myself use eero mesh

Second this. I have one Eero connected to my modem and use my Echo dots as mesh extenders. I have the dots in almost every room since I could buy them so cheap during sales

I can confirm your experience with Eero, only works correctly with very small networks

I’ve used Eero and Deco both in bridge mode with my Firewalla and have had no issues.

Eeros are great and very easy to set up. They don’t do a thing “advanced” which may not be something you’re interested in or need anyway. One note though…. It’s almost always better to buy your own router than rent it from your isp. Even if you go to Best Buy or Facebook marketplace and get the exact same system, I’d rather own it than rent it.

My eero system is very solid and no HomeKit issues. I don’t even know what is behind their paywall cuz I don’t use it and am not missing anything.

https://preview.redd.it/xusd0ulugl2e1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcffbad4610ff3b69c449331ad05a576c41f50ac Screenshot of my eero. Works great.

That's really the point of mesh routers to expand the wifi to far areas of the house without running cables. Yes everything would be faster wired, but they work perfectly fine wireless. I have Eero mesh and it's been great for years.

I agree with this. I have setup three Eero mesh systems for family members. They are super easy to setup and maintain. It has been set it and forget it for over three years now. These are installed in houses with users who are 65+.

My "for the Grandparents" (parents your case) recommendation for mesh is eero mesh. They go on sale very often, are dead easy to set up, offer good coverage with way more bandwidth than older people ever use, and both you and your parents can monitor and administer them using a phone App. You do not need to subscribe to any of the eero subscription services, your parents won't need them. Even the cheap eero 6 base model can give enough bandwidth to stream 4k TV everywhere if positioned right. You'll need to put the eeros in "Bridge Mode" if you want to continue to use your ISPs gateway, that too is just a button on the App.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

I have the EERO mesh network, it works good and the app is good, but I don't like having features paywalled behind a subscription. Wouldn't recommend.

Eero is fine. “Mixed reviews” are often by people who are unaware that they need to be placed logically, or people who have expectations that are inconsistent with modern WiFi networking. The limitation of consumer Mesh product almost always comes down to the balance between “ease of use” and “configuration flexibility”

Eero is really easy to set up for non-techie people. The app walks you through the setup well.

Exactly. I set up a Eero mesh at my in-laws. Removed a single wired Unifi AP and replaced it with 3 wireless mesh units. Much faster overall speeds all over the house and its easy and simple enough for them to manage on their own now using the app. They couldn't care less about QoS or tweaking settings to optimize performance. For roughly the same price as I paid for the AC-LR back in the day. At my office, I use Unifi Edge router with Unifi AP's. Different network with different requirements.

I have the Eero system and PS5 is hard wired it runs great but I’d be curious if it would run better on an $800 setup too.

I’m finding eero mesh works well with HomeKit. Actually they work better than HomeKit.

Don’t. Fuck netgear. I had a nighthawk that gave me nothing but issues. Finally switched to Eero and love it.

Be aware. I like my eero mesh. But it's a whiplash going from a router that has a management console I can access internally without Internet and have logs and history data to eero. Without Internet you cannot access the management of your network , you can only access via phone app with account no IP or web page. And some features are blocked behind a paywall like for example going to a list of which devices consume more data on a day and so on. I might change from eero to another brand in the future based on it but for a no frills, turn on and forget eero might be your better choice.

I just replaced my eero because it couldn't route certain IPs through a VPN and I didn't see a way to create a separate, gardened off, network for IoT devices.

It does ‘just work’ for the most part, which absolutely has value. However, lacking basic features like prioritising certain devices or splitting the 5 & 2.4Ghz bands removes standard quick-fixes for some common problems/scenarios. The completely tech-illiterate aren’t affected by this, as they’d never look at the settings. Tech/networking-enthusiasts would never buy this product. It’s everyone in the middle that suffers.

Eero is fine if you like it. I found the routing lacking so I have something else doing that, but my wifi is mostly wired Eero Pro 6

I had Eero for years but it kept causing problems, and amazon never seems to fix them, I replaced it with TP-link Deco XE75 and they have worked flawlessly for years. Use ethernet backhaul if you can, and placement becomes less important. The wifi 6 backhaul is also pretty good, but my experience is you need more units to maintain good speeds - I have 4 for indoor, and is going to add another 3 for outdoor coverage.

I like it. Easy and effective unless you’re a tinkerer.

Ya. It’s just a weird layout. Eero is actually working pretty well for me right now though.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

Same. My Orbi just started having random problems out of nowhere. Switched to eero been fine. But the price of Orbi still has me annoyed.

What you need to do is return the Spectrum router and save yourself $10 a month for the router WiFi monthly fee. The modem is free so you can keep that. Now what I would suggest for your WIFI Signal issues is to get something called a “Mesh WiFi system” these are meant for larger homes 3000+ sq ft and are best for coverage/range and speeds ! Eero is the best in my opinion for a mesh WiFi system !

Sure. The Deco does not have nearly as much engineering put into it as the Eero does. Eero has a bunch of unique (patented) technologies that make it work better in certain environments.

Just did a trial run, take away is you needed to use thier mesh, was incompatable with what I already invested in, eero

Hardwire your house and add a WAP on second floor ceiling. We retrofit lots of houses for hardwire and teach clients to just use WIFI for portable devices, IOT’s and mobile phones. Hardwire all TVs, computers and network devices that can be hardwired. MESH is just a bandaid that has lots of loss when going from one AP to the other. You can use Eero and it will work like a charm.

I use eeros for my mesh wifi and it works great with my OPNSense setup. I just dropped it into bridge mode. I physically segregate my LAN / Home WIFinetwork from my Guest and IoT via a 4 port nic and Firewall rules. My IoT stuff runns off a Nighthawk and the Guest also runs off another Nighthawk. BOth running OpenWRT firmware since stock is garbage and insecure.

I use a eero mesh system. Easy to use and administer

Same, eero for 4 years zero issues, HomeKit zero issues. 2 hardwired and 2 WiFi, no problems.

Orbi is pretty awful all the way around! They have weird speed drop issues and you have to pay for customer service! I almost went with Ubiquiti but I got a free eero. It’s been problem free for 3 years and I got a real person when I called customer service.

Eero

I think this is the plan for me. I had a Eero modem / router and a mesh extender all from TDS. My house is 3600 square feet on three levels.

Yeah. I get it. I’m being cheap. I guess I’m just hyper sensitive about additional costs. I never planned to leave my TDS Eero 1 gigabyte plan but Spectrum just came into our town and the price was too good. $158 per month for one landline number and 1 gig Internet from TDS vs. $65 per month from Spectrum locked cost for two years for the same services. I tried to negotiate a reduction in my monthly fee with TDS, but they couldn’t or wouldn’t. I can add a Pod or Pods and if one or two make my Internet speed and reception better, so be it. Thank you for your input and knowledge.

Most mesh systems take a few days to adjust and will move channels until it finds the best scenario. Netgear orbi’s do this as well as the eero systems. But once there fully optimized they should be set it and forget it and just work. Speed fluctuations are normal but I did find the eero did have less speed than my netgear with identical locations and settings. So I reset the eero from scratch and then the speed was where it needed to be. I believe it has something to do with firmware as I get the feeling the updates don’t always go well with some older firmware lingering after the upgrade. Reset seems to clear it out

For the average consumer, Eero is a much better fit though. Sure, if you like to tinker or have one off use cases, Unifi is the much better option, but Eero does a great job of providing a product that just works without ever really needing to touch it. I've had Asus, Netgear, Linksys, TP-Link, Google WiFi, and Eero, but I've had meshing issues with all except for Eero. My current setup is Unifi with Eero in bridge mode.

I was a happy Orbi owner for a year until one day it after a firmware update all went to hell. This was compounded by DHCP issues with 30+ IoT items trying to connect all at once. I think if I restarted the router, they'd find an active SSID on a satellite, connect, fail DHCP (router is rebooting) and nothing would work. The Orbi is fine, but if Mesh network is the choice, I'd steer to something else (TP Link was my next consideration). I decided to bite the bullet and start punching 2 story holes on columns to send cat 6 everywhere instead. Like others have said OP, both the router (main) and satellites should have the same number of bands (tri-band) to get a decent wireless backhaul. I was able to use moonlight to game stream (single player) over the trip band Orbi equipment, so I know it's fast enough. Many mesh router brands, Netgear included, will sell a "kit" where the satellites are only dual band. I'm not sure why, but they do and it sucks. Don't do that. Edit: I also tried Eero before Orbi, ended up immediately returning it. They had some issues that ONLY blocked Netflix. It was maddening. I'm a tinkerer, so it wasn't due to incompetence on setup or DNS or anything like that. Both Eero support and I were baffled. I figured a $700 Eero system that can't stream Netflix is too offensive to keep messing with. That's why I'd try Asus or TP link next if I hadn't given up on mesh.

EERO is popular because of cost - that is it. I tested them out and they are HORRIBLE in a highly dense area (ie Lots of neighbors with Wifi). UniFi is the best mesh- its what businesses use, but more complex to setup and maintain; not friendly for the consumer market. Depends on your requirements Out of the others I have tested: Orbi - easy to get started; great mesh; CON: Subscription for parental or added security; Not the best speeds (but generally good). Netgear - Same as orbi ASUS ZEN - Fantastic speed; Unbelievable configurability/features; No subscriptions for parental or added security; CON: Milage varies because of quality. Asus notoriously has issues with their firmware and new products. ASUS ROG - Same as ZEN; has more Gimmicks I ended up with the ASUS ZenWiFi BT10 - replaced the Orby Mesh. Very happy . I needed parental and added security; Needed VPN; Needed 10gig / 2.5gig WAN

Eero because it's stupid simple and just works.

Eero is also a bad neighbor, especially on the 2.4ghz band. It sticks with 40Mhz and picks any channel it likes, typically polluting the whole spectrum.

This sounds like a problem that is going to occur regardless of system. Mesh networks are best. Secondly you have to remember these devices perform better and some don't perform at all on a 5Ghtz network. Make sure you're connecting your devices only to the 2.4 band. Lastly you should try changing the channel on your router, you could be getting too much noise. I personally am a huge fan of eero mesh networks. While they are a bit expensive they work absolutely flawlessly and are easy to setup. They also properly seperate out the 2.4/5ghtz networks and allow you to pause 5ghtz for easy smart home device connections.

Eero has worked great for me

I had a similar experience but with Netgear Orbi. They gave me so many problems and their support was absolutely horrible. Once I switched to Eero I was delighted. My only wish is that Eero Plus should be cheaper, half price if that.

It's a "when it works it's great, but when it doesn't, good luck." My eero has been most for the last week. I'm getting gbe to the things but lucky to get 100mbps to devices (where I expect 300 or better). Nothing I can do to troubleshoot.

Eero was pretty easy to set up, if you want a mesh network

I’ve been using an Eero system for 6 years and it has been outstanding. Mine is old and it still works great. My friends and family that got them on my recommendation are also very happy. I tried an Orbi system first and it was horrible! It did not work with the Apple brand devices in the house. Eero is easy to setup and use even if not technically inclined. I have a unRAID server at home with Plex for streaming when on the road and it all works well….

We successfully use an eero with tmhi.

Avoid eero for the sole reason that you can't set the channel manually

Eero. Eero mesh system, with 2.4 in compatibility mode. Works 100% of the time for me.

The complaints are justified. Go get Eero and run for the hills!!

Eero.

Yes it works....but if at all possible, do a wired backhaul. Just so much better.

Eero.

I went from Netgear Nighthawk -> Google Pucks (great) -> Google Pro (mistake!!!!) -> Unifi DMP (meh) -> Eero (never looking back!) I've also learned to trust Amazon more than Google. Google will just drop a product from support. They will limit your ability to fine tune your own system. The Eero has just worked for the last 2 years. It updates itself in the middle of the night, and I've never noticed. It's the first WiFi that I have NEVER had to reboot to fix something. Don't know a lot about TP Link.....but stuff like this: https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-lawmakers-demand-probe-into-tp-link-claiming-spying-risks-from-china

As a former Google and Unifi user.. and current Eero user...I 100% agree with this.

I think Eero would be the most plug and play option. I've used TP-Link and they're decent but unclear political situation / possible ban. Ubiquiti/Unifi if you want to tinker and manage their network remotely (expensive)

Eero does QoS. Just saying…

I've seen people with up to 7 Eero's without issue. If you need to scale beyond that then you're in to enterprise territory. I think that a lot of people in this space treat their home network like a toy, I'm a network engineer by trade and get plenty of configuration opportunity at work, when I get home I just want to walk in and have the wifi working.

Unfortunately I'm old school when it comes to gaming and have everything hardwired there. I believe that Eero does have SQM, but I doubt you have any sort of granular per device control. I will say, though, that Eero at least has a minimum of functions. I had worked with a Google Home Wifi system that you couldn't even adjust DNS settings on or disable the 5GHz band temporarily.

Eero. Came with my router. No problems.

I second the Eero. I had one for years before moving to Ubiquiti. It was rock solid and easy to manage. Coverage was good.

Any type of mesh WiFi systems with 3 pods will work wonderful. Most popular is Eero and you don't even need the latest newest generation. Only thing you need to make sure is the base for the mesh has open wired connection for the one wired work computer or that your cable modem has an extra port or more.

2nd this answer. I love my Eeros. Has been solid with my HomeKit environment

Same, I don't get the hate. Cheap, easy to set up and maintain, good signal throughout my living space It was definitely an upgrade from the more expensive Nest system I was using

i've been through them all. Definately Moca instead of powerline if you have the cable run. used moca with old routers and used 1 as AP and worked great. if you have an older house with older wiring, powerline can have potential problems. I used powerline sucessfully (80's house) then moved to moca for higher speeds before i eventually wired my house with ethernet. currently running 3 eeros all hardwired.

Eeros are great. Again, most of the time it’s because people set the up horribly if they have issues. I have 5+ systems and every time there is an issue, it’s the ISP

This is spot on. Your home network? Have at it… do Ubiquiti. But for most people who come to this sub (or your grandma), eero is great for what it is, easy ui and is set it and forget it. It gets hate, but I have 6 systems installed that have had zero problems. Totally ended the calls about wifi, and when they’re wired backhaul even better!

I use Eero and plug my PS5 into one of the wireless nodes. Works fantastic.

Eero is my only experience, but Homekit has been stable for years on my end. Never an issue.

I have Eero, no issues at all.

I got rid of my Orbi system and switched back to eero. Won’t make the mistake of buying Netgear again. I’ve always regretted.

I love unifi, but if you’re looking for a mesh networking solution that works without a wired backhaul then eero is genuinely better than unifi. It’s infuriating for a network geek because you can’t see how it’s doing it, it optimises itself (Desist! I want to be in charge!), it’s all proprietary and there’s no web interface to geek out in… but my experience is that if you just buy enough eeros and scatter them around then it does generate a really annoyingly good result which is better than even an optimised unifi network trying to use mesh WiFi only.

I vote for Eero as well. I set up 6 of them and covered a 2 acre area including a 4 story house, a 4 car garage, another 2 story house, a 2800 sq foot barn and a tiny house. They are simple, self-updating, secure, easy to set up and they have great support.

I have an eero mesh network throughout my house and it works great. One of them is the main "router" that connects to my modem and the other ones are placed throughout the house, we have pretty much flawless service that way.

Eero is good with wireless backhaul

That is super cool. My eero system suits my use case for now, but I think I’ll go Omada when WiFi 7 is more the norm

My eero work damn good from best buy

What was the perfect position for the Eero is probably not the perfect position for the AP7's. Antenna orientation and power levels are certainly going to be different. If you are only getting -76dB at 8 feet line of sight, it seems likely something else is going on. That said, generally I would expect to have to re-tune the location and power levels when switching brands of access points in order to maximize performance.

Hardest part of Unifi is figuring out where you'll run their controller, which is easier if you plan on having one of their routers. I would recommend not running it yourself unless you want A Project... I've had dumb shit happen too many times (eg. mongodb upgrade issues) for me to do that again. Also, I would plan on having all of their APs hardwired back to the switch. If you want "mesh" I think I would go Eero or another brand that specializes in that.

Eero's some times go on good black Friday sales and is very good mesh for someone with low experience, simple to setup and use