eero - eero Outdoor 7

Eero will give you what you need. Check out the new outdoor ap. Amazon always runs sales and deals on multiple units or kits. Easy app to setup, good tech support and they have given me very few issues over the last 5+ years. Easy to add additional APs if needed. No tech knowledge needed. I'm an installer and it's all i recommended since my first install. I have used Eero with ring,wyze and Amazon fire and alexa.

Are you getting hourly interruptions on the dot in gaming and Zoom calls and similar real-time activities? I was. Nothing fixed it. No matter what, I got a big lag and packet loss spike every 59-60 ish min on the dot even fully wired in from end to end. Worse on Satellite-connected Wi-Fi devices. [https://www.reddit.com/r/orbi/comments/1itakgy/orbi\_770\_intermittent\_packet\_loss/](https://www.reddit.com/r/orbi/comments/1itakgy/orbi_770_intermittent_packet_loss/) I gave up, went to Eero, they had massive firmware regressions and no way to roll back, then I switched everything to UniFi. No regrets. Even their Early Access releases are way more stable than anything from Netgear. And they iterate updates and fixes so quickly. It's impressive.

I switched to Eero 7 stuff, running 2x Eero Max 7 and 2x Eero Outdoor 7 in AP only mode w/ UniFi UCG-Fiber for my router/gw. No regrets. SO MUCH more stable than the Orbi 770 with its hourly lag/packet loss issues. The roaming is second to none. I've tested it thoroughly and I'm impressed. I know it seems basic, but it's stable and seamless. Performance is roughly on par with the Wi-Fi devices I have at least. I pull 1.3-1.5 Gbps on 6 GHz Wi-Fi 6E, 2.2-2.3 Gbps on 5/6 GHz Wi-Fi 7 MLO, and somewhere between 900 and 1200 Mbps on 5 GHz Wi-Fi 6/6E (honestly not sure what that mode even is linking as standard wise, but that's on my outdoor APs). The wireless backhaul performance is not as strong but it's way more stable. I've got wired backhaul for my important segment anyway.

I've used Netgear Orbi, Eero, and Ubiquiti UniFi WiFi 7 systems all long term. If you want an excellent ecosystem all behind one very sleek pane of glass WITH better performance and reliability and control than the other stuff, just get UniFi. The only caveat is lack of a dedicated wireless backhaul channel but this is often inconsequential because of better range and overall bandwidth. If you want to set it and forget it and have tolerance when a forced botched firmware update is pushed with no rollback option, consider Eero.

It's completely ignorant. With the better range and speeds on my UniFi APs versus the Eero and Orbi Wi-Fi 7 stuff I ran before, my mesh performance on the one AP I don't have hard wired is BETTER despite having no dedicated backhaul channel / SSID. The link speed is higher, actual throughput to the AP is higher as tested from it itself and Ethernet bridged devices, and Wi-Fi clients have better speeds. I feel like people haven't really tried the competition... I did long-term, and they suck ass. From absolutely unworkable bugs to flaky performance, there's nothing I miss about either Orbi or Eero.

This is incredibly misleading. The signal penetration and range of the Eero Max 7 and Eero Outdoor 7 are dogshit compared to the UniFi U7 Pro and XG lineup. Compare them one after the other in the same topology / env. The U7 Pro Wall I run consistently provides better signal range and wall penetration than the Eero Max 7 it replaced, albeit only 1200 Mbps on 6E vs 1400 on the Max. The U7 XGS (similar price range) blows it out of the water entirely in speeds and signal. MLO tops 3 Gbps on U7 XGS, 6 GHz 6E peaks at 1600 Mbps. If we're talking the same retail price, you'd be able to get an E7 and there's just no comparison in performance to an Eero Max 7 from that. The U7 Pro Outdoor provides VASTLY better range on 5 and 6 GHz than the Eero Outdoor 7 I had deployed. 1200+ Mbps vs 900 Max. Almost double the 5 and 6 GHz range with AFC. Oh but I forget... The Eero Outdoor doesn't even provide 6 GHz or AFC. And the U7 Pro Outdoor is also cheaper at only $279 vs $400+ retail. And neither is a full router.

You're basically hearing none of the bad. I swear this subreddit is astroturfed by Amazon. They work great, until they push a major firmware regression and then you're stuck until they roll it back or you waste hours debugging it and hope to get in touch with TS that can roll you back. In my case, I didn't wait after a major regression that brought my WiFi network to its knees, and switched at that point. Just know this: firmware updates are compulsory. You can't easily roll them back when there's a major bug. 2 Max should be fine. I had 2 Max 7 and 2 Outdoor 7 and the bug brought down my whole wireless back haul to the single remote AP to a crawl, while forcing most of my WiFi devices over to that AP even though it provided the farthest and worst signal. Complete shit show. As a technologist, not being able to resolve that myself by rolling back is a no go.

Sure. The Deco does not have nearly as much engineering put into it as the Eero does. Eero has a bunch of unique (patented) technologies that make it work better in certain environments.

This won't work. If your modem is also a router and you have the eeros in bypass it will work, but not well. Modem -> Eero -> Switch -> Eero is the correct way. If your concern is the lack of multi gig ports on the Eero or the need to home run to a place where there is no need for an Eero, pick up a POE gateway.

The biggest driver of newer Eero products being released is the approval of new WiFi standards, which support faster speeds, lower latency, and make meshing system like Eero perform significantly better. In 2016 when the OG Eero was introduced, the average internet speed in the US (according to ooma) was 39 Mbps. It has continued a steady increase in speed since then with more and more fiber being deployed and cable companies moving to newer standards like DOCSIS 3.1 or 4.0. In 2025, ooma reports a 214Mb/s average, which is greater than a 5x speed gain (on average) nationwide in less than 10 years. Verizon FIOS, for example, was advertising 100Mb symmetrical residential connections in 2016, and today they are deploying multi-gigabit symmetrical residential connections. There is no technical reason to expect that this rate of increase won't continue (it will slow down for sure), and this expected continued increase is taken in account with the following recommendations. Eero advertises a number of square feet that an individual Eero can cover, and while these numbers can help you compare the relative strength and capabilities of one Eero verses another, these numbers are not absolute facts that will apply in your home. A number of conditions affect the actual range of an individual Eero, including wall construction, gaps under doors, carpet vs hardwood, glass surfaces, proximity to other electronics and more. \*\* The following eeros are not recommended to buy in 2025: \-OG Eero (2016) \-All 2nd Generation Eeros (aka Eero 5, Introduced 2019) - this includes Eero Beacon, Eero 5, Eero 5 Pro - While all of these products had a reason for existing at one time, the slow processors, limited RF capabilities, and limited throughput make these not a good buy in 2025. \-Some 3rd Generation Eero (Eero 6, Eero 6+, Eero 6 Extender ) - Limited RAM, slow processors, mismatched Phy speeds, limited MIMO, and poor performance with modern software make these poor choices for new implementations and ideal candidates to be upgraded in existing networks. \-Eero 7 - The promise of Wifi 7 and low price make this a tempting choice, but the unit doesn't support TrueMesh 2.0, which is Eero's latest topology-management technology. These units are mostly usable in 2025, but they will not age well, which makes them a poor choice for long term value as homes are moving to symmetrical high speed connections. The Eero 7 is also the only indoor 7 series product that doesn't support 6Ghz connectivity. \*\* Recommended to buy in 2025, in order of performance (best to worse): Eero Max 7 - Tri Band, lots of RAM, lots of horsepower, 2 10 gig Ethernet ports, and 2 2.5 gig Ethernet Ports. 4x4 MIMO on 5Ghz and 6Ghz. This is an ideal gateway Eero and the best "mesh" product currently made by Eero. Eero POE Gateway - Eero has notoriously been picky about network switches and many Eeros have a seemingly 'sluggish' fabric inside them that you can't quite put your finger on. The engineers at Eero delivered the best switch they could design, and it has incredible throughput, POE for powering access points, cameras, phones (etc), and and has the smarts inside it to be the network gateway. When it was introduced, this was the highest horsepower product Eero made, although the Max 7 now gives it a run for it's money (but without POE). If you're considering an Outdoor Eero 7, Eero 6 POEs, or if your "wiring closet" is in a place where it's really stupid to put a wireless access point, this should be the center of your network. Eero Pro 7 - Limited by 2x2 MIMO, but has 6Ghz capability and a fast processor. This is a popular choice to use as a mesh node, or even as a gateway in smaller installations. It's quite a bit cheaper than the Max 7, but you get what you pay for. Eero Pro 6 - This is no longer manufactured, but can be found in the used market or sitting on pro installers shelves when they were bought up at the EOL sales. While these aren't great gateways, they have more RAM and faster processors than their other 6 series counterparts. These are still solid choices for mesh units, especially in lower traffic areas. Eero Outdoor 7 - Eeros first approved outdoor unit, this works surprisingly well. While it is capable of meshing, because of its 2x2 MIMO it works best when wired back to a gateway. Because it needs to be wired anyway to be powered via POE, it's not a far stretch to assume that most of these will be installed by professionals and hardwired to a POE gateway or a POE switch. Even powered via a POE injector, they will mesh like any other Eero. Eero 6e - This Eero isn't going to win any awards for raw speeds, but it is Eeros first entry into the 6Ghz spectrum. When it was announced, all the installers were 'encouraged' to take webinars where the Eero sales people talked endlessly about the empty spectrum and the incredible potential. Unfortunately, it's sort of worthless if you live near an airport, and its range is a bit more limited than anyone would like. But, like the Pro 6, these are really solid choices for mesh units. Eero POE 6 - Another Eero that isn't going to win any awards for raw speeds, but it is very rare for it to be used as a gateway. Because of this, the performance is considered acceptable in today's environment (and, well, there isn't a Wifi 7 POE Eero yet). It's worth pointing out that this product does not need to receive POE from the "WAN" connection, so it can function as the gateway and be powered by the LAN POE switch. This can be helpful in temporary setups, homes under construction/renovation, etc. If you are reading this text, my home network (outside the lab) are all POE 6s hardwired back to a POE gateway and the spouse has no complaints.

The Eero 7 pro for inside and then extend to outside with an eero 7 outside is optimized to be outside and covers about 15000 square feet.

You didn't mention that you can get an Outdoor 7 with a POE wall adapter. I got mine with one and it works well, it just supplies power and the Outdoor 7 connects wirelessly to my Max 7s.

I’m currently on 2x6E and 1outdoor 7 as we have a small ranch and the outdoor is for when we are out in the barn…I’ve been thinking about upgrading just curious why did go with Pro vs the Max? Based on paper spec I wasn’t sure if I’d see any improvement going to the Pro.

The best case is to get the Max 7s and then run Ethernet between them where you can, but that is optional and you can use mesh. The only thing the PoE stuff adds is a different way to power it and form factor. Technically you could run only power over PoE and it would just mesh, but that would be a waste of ethernet. The only PoE ones I use are the outdoor ones because I don’t have an issue placing eeros around and I like the flexibility of not requiring PoE. Another use case is you can have an eero that connects to the network over mesh, but you can Ethernet devices to them and the devices will use the eero as a wifi bridge. This means any device connected to a Eero 7 Max via Ethernet and using the mesh does get the full benefit of the extra radios. I like this option because the less devices you have connected to WiFi the more free the airwaves are for devices that must use WiFi.

Eero 7 line if you want set and forget, otherwise Ubiquiti POE Unifi Pros are on sale for today only left if you are tech savvy

My Google wifi got stuck at about 20-30 mbps on a 500 mbps connection. Tossed it and replaced with Eeros 7 and it's amazing! Easy to set up, awesome interface and fast! Only downside was having to use their app and create an account (feee), not a big deal to me.

I would absolutely agree with you there, budget allowing. Currently I run two eero 6+ devices (going back in a few days; they belong to my ISP and I'm leaving their area) along with two eero Pro 6 devices (mine, purchased before I switched to my current ISP, which provided the 6+ eeros at no monthly charge). They've all been great devices to run. However, if I were buying today (whether for replacement or just supplementing), I would only look at the various eero 7 options. I probably should have mentioned that, even though it sounded like OP might be looking to spend less!

It should help a lot, if they're positioned right! If you keep the existing eero at one end of your home and put the new one at the other end, you won't get good results, though; just a heads up! Your additional eero needs to be placed in a spot where you still have strong WiFi or it'll be seriously hobbled. So space them out roughly equally if you can. But play around with it as needed. They might need to be closer together, depending on your situation (area, interior wall construction, other sources of interference, etc.). You might also consider going with an eero 7 device of some sort instead (as u/opticspipe said) if budget isn't a huge concern. Probably something you'll be glad you spent the extra money on down the road.