Velop AX5300 (MX5300)

We've moved on from that, it's now about the mx5300 (a set of two is sold under mx10600). Less ram, better CPU, 4x4 mimo, 160MHz channel widths on 5G radios. Basically better suited for higher throughput SQM and wireless backhaul.

Bile ka 2nd hand market at around 30% price lng, OP yang mesh systems ng carrier. I use 6 velop nodes. 3 MX5300 wifi6(bought for 5k ea, bnew price 18k ea, 3 AC1200 most basic velop(bought for 700ea, bnew price 2.5kea). Parent node is MX5300. All connected via wired backhaul. 4 storey 12 unit apartment bldg 100% coverage, no issues, also better ask your carrier to bridge mode your ONT to avoid double NAT issues.

Got 7 velop nodes all wired backhaul. Able to provide seemless internet in all 7 apartment units. 1 for each apartment. All my nodes are bought second hand in FB marketplace at barely 30% of the original price. 😁

Yeah they fooled me once with this, bought it thinking it was the nicer tri-band and was pretty confused why it was a dual band router that showed up. Luckily most of my stuff is hardwired anyway but if you really need the mesh aspect it would have been a big disappointment

If you have the wireless mesh constantly falling out, I've found that having your SSID broadcast fixes that. I hate that I can't hide my SSID but having nodes dropping every 3 days was getting to be annoying.

For the router / mesh. It depends on your place, apartment, house, multilevel, thick walls, etc. Mesh is great for covering a wider area esp when the floorplan is spread out or has an upstairs / downstairs. In my case a regular router works best. Mesh has its issues though. As the top comment said, wireless accesspoints kinda suck, because the wireless still has the same issues as reg devices. If you go mesh its best to run ethernet between them. Just think to yourself if you have any connection issues in a room where you want / need to use the wifi that a regular router doesnt reach at all. You can then put a mesh access point between the main one and that room and it should give better connectivity. For the modem spectrum saying to swap it. Definitely since they make it quite easy. The modem tech has changed and matured over time. More channels, better speeds and latency. If you are using a rental or a modem / router combo. Definitely best to seperate them in the majority of cases. No stress on missing this deal. There is the other mesh posted up on this sub (MX5503) and for regular routers I have had great luck on ebay and r/hardwareswap for used. Recently bought a tplink AX55 pro for 35 on ebay for my brother and his apartment. Just factory reset and update firmware when buying used. Reg retail \~80$ with no issues. Sorry for the wall of text

Hardwired backhaul seems to always be the answer that is pushed on here but sometimes it's just not an option and/or not worth the hassle. I have been using a Linksys wifi6 mesh in my 3400 sq foot house for several years and never had a problem. Get a solid connection everywhere in the house with good throughput. The construction of my house would make it difficult to run wires but it's just not worth the hassle even if I could.

In 220 sqm, you shouldn't need more than 3 nodes, unless you want more coverage outside, but with too many as you've already experience, they will sometime fight for the best signal, even more so when they are just wifi based. If you can get more Cat6 installed, the location of the router (primary node) becomes irrelevant since they will all share the same exact signal with the same bandwidth so you should be able to test it now and confirm better coverage. If you have baseboards, they make 1/4 round that has channels in them where you can hide the Cat 6, and if that's not an option there are some manufacturers who make flat cables. As for me personally, both system have been challenging but that is more related to my own person situation than the hardware. The Linksys Velop system started out great, but as my need for IoT devices grew, the system struggled a bit. I came to find out well after the fact, the nodes which I thought I set up as wired, someone defaulted back to wireless which impact my bandwidth for devices connected to it. I ended up giving them to my inlaws since the coverage at their home sucked and they have been working perfectly since. I moved over to the Night Hawk system on the recommendation of a friend who has their gaming router and overall it has been really good. It took a lot of additional setup and tweaking to get it up and running at full capacity. The biggest challenge I had (again my own issue, not product issue), was I forgot how many of my IoT devices only run off 2.4 gHz. The Night Hawk system (unlike the Velop) has a default SSID that combines the 2.4 and 5 gHz bands. The Velop had these automatically separate with different SSID's. Due to this, some of my IoT devices had trouble connecting and I regularly lost their signal. (see Ring Cameras, smart switches/outlets, etc) so this meant I had to reconfigure my network with customized networks. But on the Nighthawk system this works differently than I was used to. The main 2.4/5 ghz network will always remain, so I had to create a custom standalone 2.4ghz network and then reconnect all my IoT devices to that. This was a tedious effort, but again, this was my fault, not the hardware/software. Since I have finally got all of that figured out, its run flawlessly. I have a 1GB fiber line. If the device is hardwired, I will get 850 Mbps (up and down) on average (www.speedtest.net). On a wireless device it will vary from 100Mbps to 500Mbps which is dependent on how much bandwidth is being used at any give time. The coverage is better than the Velop overall. I have a few friends who have the Orbi systems and swear by them. Since I run a lot of wired, I wanted some more raw high performance in certain locations. (Night Hawk lets you prioritize devices better IMO) I both game and run a home theater server so I stream not only from the net, but also across the network from that service to 4 different locations in the house. Even if they are all running at the same time, the wired connection means they don't bog down and don't impact the wireless bandwidth that is remaining. The Orbi overperforms with wifi only based stuff and provides a stable network across a larger area. From what I understand the setup is also easier on the Orbi. If and when my night hawk system dies, I will seriously consider and Orbi system but thats not going to be for quite a long time.