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If you're wiring, choose something better than consumer meshy stuff. I would second the UniFi recommendation, and TP-Link Omada is good also. Wire everything that *can* be wired and save the wifi for those things that can *only* use wifi. The UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultras as the router/controller and whatever switches you need, plus the APs of your choice U6+ or U7+ are good would be a great setup with fully unified management of the network and components.

It's really not a lot worse that something like Asus, who has a decently robust interface (lots of consumer stuff hides everything behind "simplicity"). The payoff is reliability and a long service life (my oldest UniFi AP is 7 years old, still supported, and still working great.)

>I want them to be connected in to a seamless mesh network for seamless roaming. So, "mesh" has become an obtuse word in home networking. It's really just wirelessly uplinking to access points when cable can't or won't be used. Seamless roaming is built into wifi, it's not something that is only available in mesh systems - marketing hype has steered the understanding that way. You could set up three access points independently, with the same parameters (SSID, passphrase, security method) and your clients will roam amongst them as needed, seamlessly (meaning, no intervention required by the client to move). What mesh systems do bring is a unified management of access points which allows for certain enhancements to improve roaming (sometimes known as "fast roaming"). It's not super beneficial to home networks, but it's there. So if you're not buying a mesh system, using Ubiquiti UniFi or Omada - which both have a central "controller" - will provide those same features (and arguably better in some ways). Both of these are "prosumer" - a large step up in quality and features. Avoiding "the cloud" is maybe a good thing or maybe bad. With UniFi, you can set up access points standalone with an app that communicates directly with the hardware. Or, for a better setup, you would need the controller which allows more control and statistics. You also need to set up a userid with them, but you do not have to manage your network via, or have it connected to them - you can run it standalone. There are some benefits to the cloud access such as remote access to your controller. I run a full UniFi stack and it's been super reliable and easy to work with. I have a Dream Machine Pro, 5 switches and 4 APs. Since you mentioned PoE also, that's the way to go. I have my setup on a UPS, and everything is powered by a 16-port PoE switch. If the power goes out, everything keeps working off the UPS. The remote switches are also PoE powered, which is quite nice. Edit: spelling and some minor clarification

Just so you know, mesh doesn't bring roaming to wifi - any APs set up with the same authetication configuration (SSID, passphrase, security method) will allow wifi clients to roam amongst them as needed. Mesh uses what setups like Ubiquiti UniFi and commercial networking hardware use to allow *faster* roaming. UniFi would be my recommendation. It doesn't matter what your brother in law thinks.

UniFi - reliability, self-hosted, no cloud, no subscriptions etc.

UniFi has all the blocking and other features that you'd want. I have not tried it but it now also has ad blocking. At this point, I would never change. It's easy to maintain and upgrade etc. If something does fail, it's pretty simple to replace the component and keep moving. It's got a lot of enterprise type features that I like.

In consumer world - Asus and TP-Link are the better choices. Eero is great hardware has a subscription model for some needed (IMO) features. I would avoid Netgear, D-Link and Linksys - they are not what they once were and have subscription models, sometimes poor support, and varying reliability and quality. You could also consider gl.Inet Flint devices if you're looking for an all-in-one router, they have gained a very good reputation. I agree that a better choice than any of the above would be Ubiquiti UniFi and TP-Link Omada is also decent - it's different than the consumer gear. Reliability is one of the major points of these prosumer setups. I've been running UniFi for 7 years, it's great.

It was so good for me that when I accidentally messed up some wiring it was doing wireless back haul from an older udr to u7ap’s and I only noticed it due to the app showing topology looking wrong. This is 2 story house with udr in basement and aps on the 2 above ground floors.

Top of the line and the latest 7 tech and latest mesh tech is going to be from Ruckus. It’s expensive though. Pro-sumer Grade High: UniFi U7 Mesh Pro-Sumer Grade Low: TPLink Omada 7 Consumer Grade High: Eero 7 Pro Consumer Grade Low: TPLink Deco Pro 7

It’s apparent you’ve not used Ruckus equipment at all *at the very least recently.* There I fixed it. Someone below lost their mind. I suspect a common occurrence. They could have just said boom and whipped out the pic (that we can’t confirm as theirs) and would have gotten a “Touche’” and an updoot. But they went made assumptions just the same and then went cookoo for Cocoa Puffs

I’d love to converse and have some back and forth. My comment I think you implied some tone that wasn’t there. If you are a vet, I’m grateful. I have several sites with 770s and T670 in place. Along RuckusONE. Then there is my Omada setup I’m not even a fanboy of Ruckus. But my Ruckus deployments out last and out perform everything else by a good mile until we get to ISP end of things. I can get just under 10Gb (theoretical 12 possible) bandwidth with Ruckus. I have them deployed in several RV parks and auditoriums. The setup and deployment is great too. The change from 6e to 7 is a straight vertical gain. I have used (and recommended Omada, Fortinet, UniFi, Eero (meh)) to OP in a separate comment. Edit: driving text to speech They are pricey. Always have been.

I appreciate the discussion. I have not served. I have however taken several friends, crossed a few branches through getting disability and ptsd support. I take pride in their current station in life, independent and healthy. I’ve had the honor of trust for those who’ve come back and been fully demolished. Thank you for your service. (And sacrifice. Only those who know can know.) I am also well respected in my field and have a litany of titles, education, and experience under my belt. The same is true for me as well. And it never can be known really in the internet. Someone once said, “Of every age and clime we see, two of a trade can never agree.” The price reflects their lifetime warranty as well. Which no other vendor offers (admittedly price difference.) but I know I don’t have to worry about them. And their support is second to none. I can call them and they will send a unit sitting in their desk out the door while on the phone for overnight just a a loaner!

Not reliably. Our team when specing a house would pull two coax and a single Ethernet. To access ports around a house. Given moca acts like a hub and not a switch. The. You have the investment of injectors, Poe devices, filters, etc. We have never had a long term moca setup stay reliable in the same ways that Ethernet has. Our SOP Moca has its own coax. Cable/Sat its own. The sharing of lines “works” but speed is affected, reliability is affected and spof. It’s not even the power over coax is the signal over shared coax. Can be done, seen it done, never seen it work near as reliably as Ethernet or good WiFi. That may be different with MOCA 2.5 MOCA is a last resort for us. Much line power line adapters

Ubiquiti's UniFi system is difficult to recommend without running some ethernet cable. Even the Eero, Orbi and TP-Link mesh routers I cannot recommend without wired backhaul. Some of the U7 access points are capable of doing mesh but the ethernet backhaul to a PoE switch is crucial. Being that your current house is a ranch, do you have access to the attic? All you'll really need to do is run maybe about 1 or 2 ethernet cables (2 if you use the UCG Fiber which I recommend getting or 1 in the case of the Dream Router 7) in the attic which you could theoretically take with you when you move. I've shopped around for mesh routers as my dad has a Lorex Wifi Flood Light camera above the garage that our current router can't reach and the best combination I've seen so far is the UCG Fiber and any of the U7 access Points. I've priced everything and the Eero Max 7, Orbi 970 & TP-Link's equivalent came out to over $100 more than any UniFi equipment combination that I need.

I use TP link Deco X95 2 nodes system at home and Unifi 7 at work works without any issues for over a year though we will replace Eufy at work as we rolling out our own cloud platform

If you’re heavy on Apple devices then WiFi 7 won’t be coming for a while and you should be okay with a WiFi 6E router for the next 5 years. However, if you want to go forward with you can look at Ubiquiti CG Fibre and U7 or UX7 AP. The router should be future proof and allow you upgrade your AP nodes based on which band you want. If you want a different mesh brand then you can look between Deco (best on budget), Asus Zenwifi BT10 (tri-band) / BQ16 (quad-band) or Orbi 770 / 870 / 970. This are the top 3 brands with top mesh systems and best coverage. Nevertheless, your bandwidth and devices should decide your choice (added with budget) Honorable mention will be Eero Max 7 but it’s barely customizable and you have to do things the Eero way

Ubiquity hands down. Their WiFi 7 gear is reasonably priced too