This is incredibly misleading. The signal penetration and range of the Eero Max 7 and Eero Outdoor 7 are dogshit compared to the UniFi U7 Pro and XG lineup. Compare them one after the other in the same topology / env. The U7 Pro Wall I run consistently provides better signal range and wall penetration than the Eero Max 7 it replaced, albeit only 1200 Mbps on 6E vs 1400 on the Max.
The U7 XGS (similar price range) blows it out of the water entirely in speeds and signal. MLO tops 3 Gbps on U7 XGS, 6 GHz 6E peaks at 1600 Mbps.
If we're talking the same retail price, you'd be able to get an E7 and there's just no comparison in performance to an Eero Max 7 from that.
The U7 Pro Outdoor provides VASTLY better range on 5 and 6 GHz than the Eero Outdoor 7 I had deployed. 1200+ Mbps vs 900 Max. Almost double the 5 and 6 GHz range with AFC. Oh but I forget... The Eero Outdoor doesn't even provide 6 GHz or AFC. And the U7 Pro Outdoor is also cheaper at only $279 vs $400+ retail. And neither is a full router.
I've used Netgear Orbi, Eero, and Ubiquiti UniFi WiFi 7 systems all long term.
If you want an excellent ecosystem all behind one very sleek pane of glass WITH better performance and reliability and control than the other stuff, just get UniFi. The only caveat is lack of a dedicated wireless backhaul channel but this is often inconsequential because of better range and overall bandwidth.
If you want to set it and forget it and have tolerance when a forced botched firmware update is pushed with no rollback option, consider Eero.
Get one of these. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/cloud-gateways-compact
Add this to power access points: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/switching-utility/collections/pro-ultra/products/usw-ultra-60w
Then add a U6 Pro or U7 Pro. https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/wifi-flagship
No subscriptions needed. Beautiful interface to manage your entire network. Up to 8 different wifi SSIDs. You can keep your kids on one, iot on another, etc. Set different policies per network.
Unifi is great, but if you rely on wireless mesh backhaul, I think Eero performs better. If your home is wired for Ethernet and you can get the access points where you want them, then Unifi is the better overall system as long as you don’t mind tending to it. Unifi really seems designed for a setup with wired backhaul and ceiling mounted access points, which office buildings usually have and older homes may not.
In my experience, Eero is better in terms of wireless performance, but Unifi was better as a router. I had two Unifi U7 Pros and a Cloud Gateway Ultra. My two Eero Max 7s perform much better with wireless backhaul than Unifi did in comparison. 6ghz performance was also vastly better.
Unifi turned me off with their U7 Pros. They were flakey on launch day, then improved over the course of a year, but then very quickly they released a V2 U7 Pro with internal revisions (i.e., hardware fix) and then another newer variant (U7 XG Pro or something). They took forever to support MLO, and it was not available for mesh backhaul. This was my first Unifi system. Zero complaints about the gateway, features, etc., but wireless wasn’t great in my setup, even after setting up wired backhaul using MOCA adapters.
I use an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway and have three Ubiquiti U7 Pro nodes on PoE spread throughout the house. It's been fantastic.
Really enjoy the UniFi software as well
A whole home Ubiquiti setup sounds up your alley. If you run Ethernet throughout your house, start with two of something like the U7 Pro or U7 Pro Wall (depending on whether or not you have an easier time mounting to your ceiling versus a gangbox). Feel free to mix and match units, preferably keeping them both at a distance where most devices stay within -70 dBm from each on 5 GHz. If you need more than, say, 4-5 Ethernet ports from a switch and something like a Cloud Gateway Ultra (gigabit only), Cloud Gateway Fiber, or Dream Router 7 (this one includes Wi-Fi, so make of that what you will) is lacking for that, add another UniFi switch of your choice. The “Wall” UniFi APs have Ethernet ports as well.
Do you have gigabit? Faster than gigabit? Have you run Ethernet throughout your home already? Do you currently have fiber or coax, and if the latter, do you have a cable modem already?
Top of the line and the latest 7 tech and latest mesh tech is going to be from Ruckus.
It’s expensive though.
Pro-sumer Grade High:
UniFi U7 Mesh
Pro-Sumer Grade Low:
TPLink Omada 7
Consumer Grade High:
Eero 7 Pro
Consumer Grade Low:
TPLink Deco Pro 7
It’s apparent you’ve not used Ruckus equipment at all *at the very least recently.* There I fixed it. Someone below lost their mind. I suspect a common occurrence. They could have just said boom and whipped out the pic (that we can’t confirm as theirs) and would have gotten a “Touche’” and an updoot. But they went made assumptions just the same and then went cookoo for Cocoa Puffs
I’d love to converse and have some back and forth. My comment I think you implied some tone that wasn’t there.
If you are a vet, I’m grateful.
I have several sites with 770s and T670 in place. Along RuckusONE.
Then there is my Omada setup I’m not even a fanboy of Ruckus. But my Ruckus deployments out last and out perform everything else by a good mile until we get to ISP end of things.
I can get just under 10Gb (theoretical 12 possible) bandwidth with Ruckus. I have them deployed in several RV parks and auditoriums.
The setup and deployment is great too. The change from 6e to 7 is a straight vertical gain.
I have used (and recommended Omada, Fortinet, UniFi, Eero (meh)) to OP in a separate comment.
Edit: driving text to speech
They are pricey. Always have been.
I appreciate the discussion. I have not served. I have however taken several friends, crossed a few branches through getting disability and ptsd support. I take pride in their current station in life, independent and healthy. I’ve had the honor of trust for those who’ve come back and been fully demolished. Thank you for your service. (And sacrifice. Only those who know can know.)
I am also well respected in my field and have a litany of titles, education, and experience under my belt. The same is true for me as well. And it never can be known really in the internet.
Someone once said, “Of every age and clime we see, two of a trade can never agree.”
The price reflects their lifetime warranty as well. Which no other vendor offers (admittedly price difference.) but I know I don’t have to worry about them. And their support is second to none. I can call them and they will send a unit sitting in their desk out the door while on the phone for overnight just a a loaner!
Not reliably. Our team when specing a house would pull two coax and a single Ethernet. To access ports around a house. Given moca acts like a hub and not a switch. The. You have the investment of injectors, Poe devices, filters, etc.
We have never had a long term moca setup stay reliable in the same ways that Ethernet has.
Our SOP Moca has its own coax. Cable/Sat its own. The sharing of lines “works” but speed is affected, reliability is affected and spof. It’s not even the power over coax is the signal over shared coax.
Can be done, seen it done, never seen it work near as reliably as Ethernet or good WiFi. That may be different with MOCA 2.5 MOCA is a last resort for us. Much line power line adapters
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