Alpkit - PipeDream 600

Just commenting for awareness before you splash your cash. Take temperature ratings with a pinch of salt, especially from less reputable brands. I think Robens make some fantastic tents for their price, but to me, those sleeping bag ratings are wild. For example, the Serac 600 has a limit rating of -14 and uses 600g of 600fp 85/15 duck down. The Alpkit Pipedream 600 uses 600g of 750fp 90/10 Goose down and has a limit rating of -12. There is over 3,000 cuin difference between the two bags yet the Robens is rated a warmer bag. Always look at the type, fill power and fill weight of the down.

I've got the pipedream 600 & I've been very satisfied with it. I'm frequently camping in the Cairngorms with it and I've had it down to -10, with no issues. It's a great bag for the price and I've been incredibly impressed with it. 10/10 would recommend to a friend

Seconded. Had it down to -5 & it easily could have handled worse. I've been very impressed with it

Seconded, I've had my 600 now for about 6-8 months & it's fantastic. I've had it out in every weather & it hasn't disappointed me once.

I got it down to -5°c and I was still toasty, could easily have done another 5°. I had base layers on and I wouldn't say I'm a particularly warm sleeper. I'm a bit surprised you were still cold but some people just run a bit colder, what was the weather like (besides cold obvs ahaha)? Edit* Was it the 400 or 600 you had?

Alpkit's worth a look. I have the Pipedream 600 (1008g) but the 4-season bag a tier below (Skyehigh 700?) looks like a good deal too. The quality is there, and at least a baseline ethical standard. The synthetic materials are plenty breathable, if you wanted cotton next to skin you'd need a cotton liner or jammies, probably a good idea anyway. Most all modern bags have a DWR treated outer so a drop of water here and there is not a disaster, but pretty much you should be treating any down bag like electronics. 

I think you'll be very happy with it especially in Scotland 👍

I couldn't get away with the pipedream 600, if memory serves me right it didn't have a drawstring to cinch the neck baffle shut. It just had a bit of stuffed fabric that sort of hung down. I have found previously that being able to cinch the neck makes a massive difference to how a bag keeps heat in, so in the end I went for an Alpkit alpine dream 1000, but they were heavily discounted at the time (the 800 and 1000 were priced the same in the sale so I figured why not). I don't think I'd buy one at their current pricing. Edit just to say.. I think I sleep cold though.

Got the Alpkit Pipedream 600, and even with a liner in the Welsh country at 0 degrees is still cold. This is with warming up before getting in the bag. (Maybe just me) Mountain equipment helium 800 is better from when I tried that. Or perhaps some of the -16 mammut bags, which sometimes have a 50% sale. Rab ascent 1100 is also good. Had a sale recently at Go Outdoors. But my favourite is the zenbivy 10. As it suits my side, sleeping and moving around. All have been paired with thermarest neoair Xtherm pad. Good luck!

I'm currently in my tent in Wales on a blustery, wet night in a pipedream 600. And I'm very much toasty warm.

Hi,if you can afford the pipe dream 600 then go for it,I have it and it wasn’t too warm for me at 0 degrees but then if you want to go colder it will be capable.i like to spend big on a cold weather bag and cheap to mid on a bag for rest of the year.i have a cheap Oex(£50)4 season synthetic bag that gets me all the way down to 5 degree comfortably and I don’t have to worry about it getting wrecked and it only weighs just over a kilo.

Is this a last minute buy?bad idea in my opinion.IF you can wait and afford a little more money you would be better off waiting for an alpkit sale,I got the pipedream 600 for £208 down from £349.you just can’t rely on Oex in my experience

I got mine for that in a sale about 18 months ago,I will quickly check my emails to make sure if that but I remember jumping on it at the time and I couldn’t even afford it lol

I have a Pipedream 600 and it is very warm. They frequently have sales so it cost me £200!

Pipedream 600 all day long from Alpkit. I've had mine for 5 years and I absolutely love it. I've slept in the hospital in it, I've slept in early may, just above freezing under a tarp and it was glorious. Ive slept late november too, I've yet to winter in it but would love a Christmas trip with it. It's perfect for the UK.

I've got a pipedream 600, had it for probably around 7 years and it's a really comfy, warm but lightweight bag. In fact I've just washed and tumble dried it and it's come out looking brand new. I think for the price of their bags compared to other brands they're definitely worth it. I certainly haven't had any problems with it and was probably one of the best purchases I've made for my kit.

you get what you pay for with sleeping bags really. two good options would be the rab ascent 700 or the alpkit pipedream 600. both decent bags, especially if combined with a liner. they're not exactly cheap, but pack down well and are lightish.

The pipe dream 600 is a quality bag Super warm

Pipedream 600 user here. Very happy with it. Used at -6C and was toasty warm in just a base layer. Packs down nice and compact too. Haven’t had any problems with down migration. I keep it stored it it’s larger bag when not in use.

I have the 600 and am very pleased with it. I take it out in all temperatures and use in my hammock and bivvy without issue. Packs down relatively small and haven’t felt cold in it at -8C wearing a base layer. If you can stretch the budget to go for it I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

I sleep in a 400 in the same weather as my wife in her 600. It's rare that I'll add extra layers compared to her. Even around the house we run more or less to gender norms of her being constantly cold and me being fine wearing a layer or two less than she has on.

I’ve got a pipe dream. Don’t remember which. VERY snug fit, not that warm and feels cheap. Replaced with a Rab I found in a sale.

Certainly not a racing snake anymore! 6’1” and big, not especially fat but broad. I found it was definitely snug.

I really like my Pipedream. If you’re a sturdier bloke you may find it too tight though. Saw a comment saying that they are made for people with the build of a “racing snake” once, and if you’re tall that is accurate.