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I used to use a Sea to Summit Womens Etherlight Xtreme pad. It turns out it's just too cold for me. Even though it has been tested, I believe it's so thick that the air moves around when I toss and turn, churning up cold air. I tried a Neo Air Xlite. It's not comfortable for me, but incredibly warm. I settled on the Nemo Tensor All Season. I also have an Exped pad. While it's warm enough, it's not as comfortable as the Nemo. Make sure your pad is warm enough. If the cold is coming from the ground, it's the pad, not the bag that needs to be changed out. I found that I sleep about 20 degrees colder than most ratings. So, I use an Enlightened Equipment Conundrum 10 Degree for the colder weather. Then go to a 20-degree Enlightened Equipment Revelation. The Conundrum has a 3/4 zip, which allows for the warm air to stay inside the bag. It does not unzip the way, so it won't lay flat. I sleep with a buff on my neck and a fleece hat. I'm warm at 34 degrees, but I also need to use my fleece or puffy. At 25 degrees, I start getting cold. I have also tried a Marmot bag and an REI bag. They weren't warm enough for me. I believe Katabatic and Featheted Friends may use more down, thus making their bags or quilts warmer. They are more expensive than EE. In April and May, I can switch to my Revelation, which does open all the way. I would not use the Conundrum in zero degree weather because I sleep cold. Nor would I ever choose to be out in zero degree weather. I have a 40-degree quilt that I made for summer use. I sleep cold enough that I am uncomfortably chilled in it when it's about 60 degrees at night. Some people will tell you the EE quilts are not warm enough. They used to use less down but have changed it to match the standards that most others use to achieve the loft needed for a designated temperature. You should be able to see the fill weight on each manufacturers website. Pay attention to the width and length of the quilts or bags. It will help you compare apples to apples. Only you will be able to tell what will be warm enough for you. I don't like using a mummy bag, so the quilts work well for me. You could consider using a liner. It may help boost your bag or quilts rating. I think you will get more warmth for the ounce by getting a warmer sleeping pad. You will probably need to practice in your backyard or some safe place to help you determine what works for you. It frequently test my gear in my backyard, so if it fails, I'm steps away from the house. You may also want to consider purchasing from an entity that allows returns, like REI or MEC. I also sleep with warm socks. I tried Alpaca wool, which worked well. However, I found that using two pairs of Alpha Direct fleece socks works just as well. I bought one a size bigger for layering. This allows me to bring two pairs when needed or leave one pair home in warmer months. You have to look at your sleep system as a system, not as individual components. Combing my puffy, fleece, hat, socks, and yes, even gloves, help me adjust to different temperatures.
Try: YAMA Mountain, Gen makes a small shop SilPoly tent called Cirriform, reach out to him and he would probably do a long version. https://yamamountaingear.com/collections/cirriform/products/1p-cirriform-tarp-silpoly Enlightened Equipment makes quilts up to 7ft, I just ordered a new conundrum for $600. The way I look at it is if I have six amazing nights sleeping in the backcountry that equals five nights in a hotel that smells like cleaning fluid and disinfectant.
I use 20F quilt in summer in PNW, in June I would take it up to 6000 feet. Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20F would have you covered for $256 right now. Get 10F model and a draft collar if you want a bit of extra warmth security.
There are many…from REI house brand, to more expensive (hipster!) cottage brands like Enlightened Equipment, Zpacks, Zenbivvy, Katabatic etc etc. I have 2 Enlightened Equipment ones - chose them as they are cheaper than some other niche brands, lighter than nearly all others, and have good resale value. I have a summer 40F quilt and a 2 person (!) 20F quilt.
I ended up upgrading to a enlightened equipment two-person 850fp down quilt. Super light and packable but cost a fortune. It was worth it because we take it backpacking and have traveled internationally with it.
I backpack with my 9 and 6 year old boys. Last summer, I had them both in 12L REI Tarn packs that I picked up on Facebook marketplace for like $40 combined. They use 8 and 6 sections of Z lite foam pad. I bring quilts for them, one of which is an old 28 oz 10 degree EE quilt from when I first went ultralight, and the other is a Feathered Friends hoodless sleeping bag that I bought for basically half price on Facebook marketplace this off season. Just make sure to bring a warm beanie for the kiddo to keep his head warm. 18L is about the most volume I would recommend in a pack for a 5 year old. You’ll want the pack light and small enough that you can easily carry it in an extra hand if he gets tired of wearing it. The torso size (assuming the pack has a hipbelt) is one of the more important factors at that age. Ideally, you’ll want a pack with an adjustable torso length, th shorter the better at his height. My 4’4 9 year old has about a 12-13” torso measurement for reference, but it’s easy to measure. Bottom line, you’ll end up with some extra weight and volume in your pack in order to make the experience better for him. I
Two sleeping pads + sleeping pad coupling straps to hold them together (OR the thermarest luxe coupling sheet, not UL but it was a game changer for us) + 2 person quilt. My husband and I use the thermarest neoair xlites and the enlightened equipment 2p quilt. We love being able to cuddle but also separate ourselves or sprawl onto each other's sleeping pads. Edit: I'm not sure if you asked for a tent recc but we've been enjoying the durston xdome 2
I’m well over 1000 hiker miles over a few years with a 10F EE enigma quilt and love it. To each their own, though.
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