Conundrum Sleeping Quilt

I used to use a Sea to Summit Womens Etherlight Xtreme pad. It turns out it's just too cold for me. Even though it has been tested, I believe it's so thick that the air moves around when I toss and turn, churning up cold air. I tried a Neo Air Xlite. It's not comfortable for me, but incredibly warm. I settled on the Nemo Tensor All Season. I also have an Exped pad. While it's warm enough, it's not as comfortable as the Nemo. Make sure your pad is warm enough. If the cold is coming from the ground, it's the pad, not the bag that needs to be changed out. I found that I sleep about 20 degrees colder than most ratings. So, I use an Enlightened Equipment Conundrum 10 Degree for the colder weather. Then go to a 20-degree Enlightened Equipment Revelation. The Conundrum has a 3/4 zip, which allows for the warm air to stay inside the bag. It does not unzip the way, so it won't lay flat. I sleep with a buff on my neck and a fleece hat. I'm warm at 34 degrees, but I also need to use my fleece or puffy. At 25 degrees, I start getting cold. I have also tried a Marmot bag and an REI bag. They weren't warm enough for me. I believe Katabatic and Featheted Friends may use more down, thus making their bags or quilts warmer. They are more expensive than EE. In April and May, I can switch to my Revelation, which does open all the way. I would not use the Conundrum in zero degree weather because I sleep cold. Nor would I ever choose to be out in zero degree weather. I have a 40-degree quilt that I made for summer use. I sleep cold enough that I am uncomfortably chilled in it when it's about 60 degrees at night. Some people will tell you the EE quilts are not warm enough. They used to use less down but have changed it to match the standards that most others use to achieve the loft needed for a designated temperature. You should be able to see the fill weight on each manufacturers website. Pay attention to the width and length of the quilts or bags. It will help you compare apples to apples. Only you will be able to tell what will be warm enough for you. I don't like using a mummy bag, so the quilts work well for me. You could consider using a liner. It may help boost your bag or quilts rating. I think you will get more warmth for the ounce by getting a warmer sleeping pad. You will probably need to practice in your backyard or some safe place to help you determine what works for you. It frequently test my gear in my backyard, so if it fails, I'm steps away from the house. You may also want to consider purchasing from an entity that allows returns, like REI or MEC. I also sleep with warm socks. I tried Alpaca wool, which worked well. However, I found that using two pairs of Alpha Direct fleece socks works just as well. I bought one a size bigger for layering. This allows me to bring two pairs when needed or leave one pair home in warmer months. You have to look at your sleep system as a system, not as individual components. Combing my puffy, fleece, hat, socks, and yes, even gloves, help me adjust to different temperatures.

Try Enlightened Equipment. The Conundrum and Convert come in a x-wide 70" shoulder girth and extends down a ways toward the hips at that width. Conundrum has a 3/4 length zip and Convert has a full zip opens like a blanket. You can order them in 10, 0 and -10F warmth ratings. You would need to add a hood because neither one has a hood. Another possibility is Western Mountaineering Cloudlite, although it is a 15 degree rated bag. It has a 65" shoulder and 68" hip girth. Conundrum and Convert can be used a quilt unzipped and might work if you can learn to stay warm using a quilt.

Good pad with a good quilt will make you a happy camper

Enlightened equipment makes some quilts that are safety rated down to -17C and I’m sure other brands go further. They wrap around your sleeping pad so air can’t escape. With a ccf pad and high r-value inflatable pad, you could sleep naked safely in very cold weather. Another option is buying heavy down jacket and down pants. You will look/feel like a marshmallow but be extremely warm. That used to be my go to.

I’m taking my Enlightened Equipment quilt, 10F and weighs less than 1.5 pounds (think I’ve done that conversion right). Best thing I’ve ever bought! Also on sale at the moment with Black Friday - highly recommend

Echoing comments that I have not found the enlightened equipment quilt ratings to be accurate. I used to carry a 0° EE, now I carry a 15° katabatic and I'm much more comfortable, even down to temps near or below freezing. Add a warmer pad, and make sure your neck is covered by a buff or your jacket is zipped up to your chin with the hood up and you should be good to go. If you're a woman it's always worth having your thyroid checked too, especially if you are abnormally cold in other situations as well.

I find the EE quilts terrible for cold sleepers. I’ve got one rated for 0F and I start getting cold around 0C. One rated to 20F would be useless in anything but the hottest summer weather. OP if you’re truly a cold sleeper don’t buy this one!!

Describe all the Alpha Direct garments that you used on this trip. Thanks! As the owner of a couple of EE quilts I have learned that their temp ratings are not "comfort" rated, so add 10F to a 20F quilt rating, so it would be closer to 30F comfort rated. Nevertheless, tell us about the weight of your quilt please because that will tell me what temp I might expect from it. I have a 680+ g EE quilt that would be fine at freezing and down to 20F easily when I am wearing some Alpha Direct layers. The Nemo Tensor Elite that I looked up has an R value of 2.4 making it a summer pad that might be OK down to about 45F. For freezing temps, I need an R-value exceeding 4.5 to 6. Did you have a CCF pad to help layer with your Nemo pad?