Enigma

I use a summer quilt for warm nights and an Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20°F (950 fill power) quilt for colder ones. And my pad is thermarest neoair nxt r4.5.

I used [Apex100](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/s/7ZnTBu2xdk). I am also a super cold sleeper. My [20F EE Enigma](https://imgur.com/a/2s5OIhf) with all my layers is cold at 35°F. I do have to insist that a 660g 8 to 9°C comfort bag sucks, no matter how cold OP sleeps. Especially comparing to my diy quilt which is similarly rated, way lighter and sythetic. I mean, the weight difference is so much that you could layer an entire additional [3°C comfort rated Cumulus quilt](https://cumulus.equipment/en/eu/p/quilts-and-comforters-neo-quilt-300) on top, be waaay overkill for even the coldest of sleepers, and still be lighter than the rab piece of junk.

>I was absolutely freezing all night >Current setup: 20° EE quilt There’s your problem, read more below. Others have said that your pad is the weak point, but at above freezing, it should have been adequate. However, if you are loosing heat to the ground, adding clothing layers really doesn’t help, so despite your seemingly overkill setup, the pad may in fact be the weak link. Otherwise (from a fellow cold sleeper) down pants make a huge difference for boosting the warmth of your sleep system. I know EE quilts work for many people, but ignoring their racism, the design sucks and has several features that compound negatively unless conditions are close to ideal/you are lucky/you are extremely skilled: -extremely long (12+ft) baffles that promote down shift and cold spots. Even if a baffle is perfectly filled there will be some down movement, and the larger the baffle, the larger this cold spot will be. Also, the U-shaped baffles are a straight up cost cutting decision since there are less chambers to fill (the high price does not reflect this). -no differential cut. Differential cut (smaller inner fabric, larger outer fabric) helps maintain the 3D shape of baffles and stabilizes down. No diff cut plus super long baffles equals even worse performance (unless down is perfectly distributed and stays that way). -limit rated. Quilt will sleep colder / be heavier than expected. Granted many makers use limit rating, but the best regarded ones don’t. Limit rating plus no diff cut plus long baffles equals bad performance. FWIW, I have a 20°F EE quilt and a 20°F WM bag. The bag sleeps true to the rating while the quilt looks like a straight up piece of crap next to it. Based on the performance and specs, I estimate I would have to upgrade to a 0°F quilt plus hood to get the same performance as the WM bag, but the quilt will be *heavier*, only $30 cheaper and still have all the bad design choices mentioned above.

I have an EE Revelation 850 & an EE Enigma 950. Both 20°, 10D inner and outer. I haven’t had any problems with drafts or down leakage in either but the 850 fill is significantly warmer and doesn’t have issues with down migrating. I will soon be selling the 950 because it just isn’t warm enough.

EE quilts are straight up poorly designed too. Their baffles shift down to the sides and EE was a well-documented down under-filler before they finally owned up to it. Between the two, Katabatic is a far better buy.

My SO sleeps cold. Thermarest Trail Pro - they used to make a women's specific one. I may upgrade this to the Nemo Tensor All Season for a holiday gift. Feathered Friends Egret - I take this from her when I go climbing it's so cozy I sleep warm- I freaking cook: Nemo Tensor All Season EE Enigma 30 950 fill

Marmot Mad River 0° is currently on sale at REI for $250. Kelty Cosmic Down 0° is the standard inexpensive option. EE *has* had their quilts on sale recently. If you want to go the quilt route you should be able to get a 0° Enigma for around $400. That will be your lightest and most compact option.

I did the PCT with a 10 degree enlightened equipment enigma (quilt with sewn footbox) and it's a way more comfortable sleep than my mummy bag days. It's the #1 bag in that survey for a reason. It's now lasted me 12 years and about 200 nights and is still in amazing shape. I also have their 40 deg quilt. When outside The bag never leaves the tent, other than while in the stuff sack. At home store it in a oversized large storage bag or hang it from a hanger in your closet and occasionally (like every couple months) store it the opposite way. I imagine I'll get another decade out of it.