Condor YF Sleeping Bag

It does, but the relaxed will be more comfortable AND you'll want to be throwing tomorrow's clothes in there and possibly a hot water filled Nalgene, batteries and electronics (lithium batteries deplete quickly in cold weather), blah blah. So it's likely you can fill that space. And still be a little more comfy. I have a rectangular 20 degree Feathered Friends Condor. Normally I used to use it as a two person quilt with my ex husband, unzipped fully and zipped into a ground sheet. It's incredible that way, like a two person bed - so backcountry swank! BUT I did take it winter camping by myself in a normal sleeping bag configuration and the temps went right to that 20 degree rating. It's a FF bag so it's, you know, 900 down and properly filled, so it could handle that. Did I wish I had a mummy? Sure, a little. Was I fine? yes. And I could still stretch my legs more which I happen to like. And, as a woman, we do tend to sleep a little colder. I think you'll be fine with a relaxed bag. I would worry much more about the fill weight, the quality of the down, and also, of course, the R rating of your sleeping pad/pads.

Single bags that zip together are what my wife and I use. Very versatile and easier to store and to backpack with. They are available at all price points from Naturehike/Aegismax to Feathered Friends.

Single bags that zip together are what my wife and I use. Very versatile and easier to store and to backpack with. They are available at all price points from Naturehike/Aegismax to Feathered Friends.

The ratings are not always reliable so you are right to be uncomfortable with them. One good baseline is ounces of down at the same fill power. Comparing bags that way gives you a better comparison point. Western Mountaineering and Feathered Friends are generally reliable in their ratings. That should give you an excellent place to start.

Feathered Friends will customize bags. They did it for me.

Feathered Friends has short bags for women. Temp ratings are spot on. The YF bags save $ over the UL for very slight weight increase. They also have a kids Flicker; 5ft hoodless bag that can unzip to quilt. I have a regular YF 30 that I love. Worth a phone call. 

I'd been using a Marmot for 30 yrs, what they called a 10-20 30. Don't remember the price but it was the most expensive thing I bought for a very long time and glad I did. There were not as many choices back then and I don't think they are the same now. Point is it was annoying when it was warm. Couple of years ago I got a Feathered Friends Flicker 40. It's a hoodless sleeping bag that can also open all the way to a quilt. (no it doesn't attach to a pad) Had that down to mid 30's cowboy camping in the desert and was fine with a puffy on. I had wanted a 30 but out of stock. This year sold the 40 and got a 30 for a trip to Iceland in July. I'm very happy with it; works well across temps. Combined with the Marmot gets me down to 0. Since it is a bag when I want it's less fuss than a lot of the quilts out there. (love the draft collar and the foot closing completely). You can rent one and they will credit up to 2 nights rental cost toward a similar purchase. May help but likely incur some extra shipping costs unless you're in their area.

I have a 10 degree FF bag and I loveeeeeee it. I took it on the JMT during a verrryyy hot year and ended up just draping it over me most nights rather than zipping it up. To me, the peace of mind of having the 10 degree is more than worth it. I used to feel anxious about being cold on basically every backpacking trip and now I never stress about it, I know I will be cozy. And it serves me well for other adventures including snow camping and shoulder season trips.

Before you buy, I'd read through Dan Timmerman's blog: [https://timmermade.com/blog/](https://timmermade.com/blog/) He says it better than I will. But it comes down to wrapping yourself with the right thickness of insulation for the least amount of weight and money, which means you need a bag that fits your body and sleeping position, and uses the right amounts of top-notch materials. **Keep in mind insulation is a complete system**. It includes sleeping pads and shelters. \-A thin CCF pad under an air pad boosts R-value for cheap. Decathlon's foam roll is 210g and 9 Euro. GG thinlite is half the weight and double the price, which is still cheap. \-A bivy bag can easily add 5C to your warmth because it prevents wind from stealing your warmth. You can find them on aliexpress for \~30 Euro in the 250g gram range, or from cottage makers in US for more $ and less g. Keep in mind, you do still want good ventilation to prevent condensation. Feathered Friends is gold standard. Quality is top. The price reflects that. Any of the FF 10F (-12C) or 0F (-18C) bags could work. Don't get confused by names. Just look at the girth specs, and fit to height. **Maybe** in your price range with the USD being cheap right now. I think the Cumulus Panyam and Teneqa series check all the boxes at a fair price. Choose the weight you need, add an extra 60g of down, and size it to fit yourself. Good options on website. You'll come in right around 400-500 Euro. Cheaper than that is Aegismax. \-G is the 850 FP goose down UL winter series, Choose your weight and length. Is it totally dialed in? No, but it's a really solid choice. \-D is the 650 FP duck down budget series. Adequate, not ideal but worth mentioning though My best personal experiences have been with \-Feathered Friends Flicker 20 (-7C) for general 3 season use, which I like for versatility. It works down to actual rated temp with the right shelter, pads, campsite selection, clothing. \-Aegismax Mini 6C which is good for summer use (which is half the year where I live), but was impressed with brand.