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I replaced my 30 degree EE Revelation (22 oz) with a Katabatic Alsek 22 degree (25 oz) because I would get cold in the EE when the temperature dropped below 40. Manufacturers use different temperature ratings (comfort vs minimum) to rate a quilt, so keep that in mind. I noticed a huge difference in quality and warmth in the Katabatic. Highly recommended Katabatic over the EE, but you're not really saving much in weight, so it might be best to keep what you've got.
Katabatic is far and away the better product, even ignoring EE's racist bullshit.
Definitely Katabatic. I'd consider their Flex series too if budget is more important.
Katabatic makes great quilts— you may want to consider the Alsek over the flex given your tendency to have cold legs and feet as it has a foot box! You could also look into the ultralight Nemo pads. And for shoulder season trips you could always add a GG thinlight foam pad!
That's a lot of money to save 2.5 ounces. If you have a high budget for this, look at the full range of 950 fp down quilts. Also consider whether a 30F quilt would be warm enough in the conditions in which you would use it.
If you post a complete lighterpack of your setup and request a shakedown, I bet some more affordable ways to save 2.5 ounces can be found.
Totally agree with continuing to reduce your base weight. I'm in the same age range as you are and it has really helped me. But I don't think your loadout is tuned enough yet to justify major upgrades to the quilt for minor benefits. Post that lighterpack and shakedown.
There just isn't that much difference between quilts using the same fill power of down and similar fabric weights. It's a very mature technology. You either buy something with a thinner, wispier outer fabric, or a signficantly high fill power of down, or a higher limiting temperature rating. Those are the only options to reduce weight of a quilt.
EE quilts are straight up poorly designed too. Their baffles shift down to the sides and EE was a well-documented down under-filler before they finally owned up to it. Between the two, Katabatic is a far better buy.
I've gotta disagree about the price, a 26 comfort rated bag for 1.5 lbs is kind of wild, at those specs you're competitive with cottage quilt manufacturers that would cost significantly more. I'm actually kind of suspicious about the temp rating for this bag when you compare it to something like the Katabatic Alsek, which has a similar temp rating but doesn't weigh that much less.
Let's be very clear and honest about this, so as to not mislead future readers. Canyonlands has average lows of 30F in March. So ideally you want something comfort-rated to 30F unless you're a warm sleeper, plus some wiggle room. Very likely haters quilt you had was limit-rated to 30F, or comfort-rated to 40F. So it's no wonder that you would be cold. We're missing information to put your claim into context, though, because clothing can make significant contributions to the sleep system. What were you wearing? Did you have any insulated clothing like a puffy packed but not worn to sleep? Maybe you're a cold sleeper, but for many people it would be a huge overreaction to jump to a quilt comfort-rated at 15F and an Xtherm for 30F lows. You skipped an entire class of options that would be a more reasonable middle-ground solution (e.g. 20F quilt and an Xlite)
Do you mean 20 F limit or comfort rated? And are you a cold, average, or warm sleeper? The average low in Canyonlands in March is 30 F. So a 20F is possibly even overkill, assuming you're also carrying insulating clothing layers to supplement your sleep system with (which you should be) Fleece layers (alpha direct) plus a puffy, booties and beanie will add 5-10F in my experience. A bivy will add a few more degrees As a warm sleeper, I would carry a quilt limit-rated to 30F for 30F lows, then add clothing. A cold sleeper should do the same, but with a 30F comfort rating rather than limit. So if you're 20F quilt is limit-rated (which is true of EE) meaning it likely has a 30F comfort rating, you're totally good I'd suggest a Katabatic Alsek 22 over EE if you're a cold sleeper. Comfort-rated to 20-ish
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