
Katabatic Gear - Palisade 30°F Quilt
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Quilts that are regularly brought up for backpacking are not your "use in the living room" type of quilts. That's a specific name for a sleeping bag that has no hood, and no back, that uses straps to attach to the sleeping pad. When used correctly, they can be used in much colder temperatures (0F rated quilts exist, and can work well when combined with a hooded down jacket). Quilts come in length up to 6'6", where this is the length of the quilt, not the person in it. For your height that is going to be quite useful, as that leaves plenty of additional room to cover yourself up if need (although functionally 6' quilt would be enough for you for warm weather use). They also come with openable toe boxes as a common feature, which is useful for warm nights. Look up something like Katabatic Palisade to get a sense of what the thing is, the company has nice product pictures. In general depending on where you a live a 20F or 30F quilt can be an all-around 3 season solution, where you leave it more open on warmer nights or close it up on colder nights.
With everyone else here, major quilt fan and have been using a Katabatic Palisade for about 6 years and would never go back. Only exception would be winter camping. They tend to sleep a tad little colder than mummy bags (but not much) so the temp rating of the quilt + the R value of your pad is more important to pay attention to.
I have a katabatic palisade quilt and it works perfectly for sleeping with one leg up, it's got elastic down the edges to keep them under you and block drafts. They make quilts down to comfort temps of -15c so imagine there should be something suitable. Expensive, but easily the best quality sleeping bag / quilt I've ever used
That doesn’t seem right… perhaps you sleep cold… bag should be comfortable to it’s rated temp (not just survivable). I have a katabatic palisades 30 with the 900 fill and it’s plenty warm down to 30. At that temp I wear my puffy-hoodie but that’s mainly to keep my head warm. And I suspect I could go colder if I synch things down well.
I did a bit more research, and it looks like with the Palisades 30. 30 is the 'comfort rating' and some people have reported using it into the 20s/teens and survived. And I chose the 900 fill, which likely makes it even a bit warmer. So you may be right. I don't have much experience with other quilts (or at least none that were that nice). Sounds like it depends a lot on the manufacturer, and how they advertise numbers. Cheers. Edit: fyi... Nemo Forte 35 comfort rating is 35º. Hang Tight Special Edition HeatSeeker 20° comfort rating also 20º.
i used a 30° quilt with a foam pad in canyonlands late march and made it work. i was broke and couldn't afford a new quilt but was determined to do the hayduke. so i used hand warmers and boiled water to cuddle a hot nalgene to sleep. i was very cold and would not recommend this. if i was going to do it again i would use a Katabatic sawatch 15° with a thermarest x-therm and a Katabatic bivy.
katabatic palisade was the quilt which is comfort rated to 30°. i had a puffy and thermal bottoms and thick socks. i experienced single digit temps. if i was going to do it again i would use the gear i listed based on my experience. i had 2 hiking partners with. one used a 20° enlightened equipment with a neoair and the other a 20° katabatic. both slept in the same insulating layers as me and we ok but not comfortable. my setup worked (i'm not dead), my hiking partners setups worked (they aren't dead i think), and the system i would switch too would work. choose your own adventure.
I tried a half dozen different mummy bags before immediately returning them. I'm 6'3" 235lbs, pretty tight fit. Perfect solution for me was a Katabatic down quilt. Really good quality and versatile. Paired it with a Big Agnes Rapide pad. Most comfortable pad I've ever used.
I got the wide 6'6" 30F for $379. I motocamp, and prefer not to ride in Temps below 35-40F so I chose the 30F. But it LUXURIOUS! Love it. Well made.
Man I wish I could figure that out. My 30 katabatic bad is oppressively hot over 40 degrees. And trying to keep some of it venting or the footbox open from 40-50 just results in my feet freezing or waking up at night to one spot of my back getting it a draft. I gave up. I got a 40 degree down quilt and a 50deg synthetic bag a little bit bigger and layer however it seems like it’ll be that night. Bonus is EE put a hole in the 50deg bag so it’s my camp poncho and I don’t bring a puffy. The two bags are heavier than a 20deg bag but lighter than a 20 degree plus a 10oz puffy.
Katabatic 30 is the daddy quilt.
I love my Katabatic quilt. Extremely light, can open up and breath in warmer hunts and definitely warm enough sub-freezing when buttoned up. Been using it for 5 years on Colorado hunts, all kinds of conditions.
There isn’t really an absolute best, but I like Katabatic for a quilt and western mountaineering or feathered friends for a bag. I prefer quilts down to around the low 20s, bags below that. Having a pocket in your quilt for a sleeping pad seems silly to me.
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