
NEMO
Disco 15 Series
Spacious spoon shape, but bulky and inconsistent warmth.
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Neve Gear is an Australia based company that makes an awesome quilt. I just got the Waratah -2C and really really like it. Got it for 260 USD so mid price but it is easily on par with much more expensive quilts/bags. The strap design is also much better than a lot of quilts out there. They make a 6’6 option so height shouldn’t be an issue. Really can’t recommend them enough especially if you’re in Australia.
I have the Neve Waratah quilt(-2C version) and prefer it to my Sea to Summit Spark sleeping bag. I use it with the Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XTherm NXT sleeping mat. The mat is a R 7.3 so might be too warm for you but I’m a cold sleeper. However that being said I have used it in summer in the Blue Mountains and I didn’t overheat but I’m not sure how it would go if the weather was a lot warmer.
Quilts are great. They're lighter and more comfortable than sleeping bags. The main considerations are head insulation and draught control. The way a quilt attaches to your sleeping pad matters quite a lot to prevent draughts of cold air from cooling you down. You should also pair a quilt with a slightly more insulated sleeping pad. Obviously quilts don't cover your head. You could wear a beanie and a buff, or just wear the hood of your jacket. I have a synthetic full face insulation system made especially for quilts, because synthetic copes a lot better with hair oils and condensation from your breath than down does. Quilts are absolutely warm enough for the UK. You want to be looking at a quilt with a comfort rating of 0C/30F and a limit of -6C/20F or around that kind of range in order to be comfortable for three season use. Ideally pair with a pad with an R-value of 4 or higher. When buying a quilt make sure to look into whether the advertised temperature is comfort or limit.
I use the Timmermade SUL Waterbear - Climashield. The SUL version is quite tight around your face and is more fitted than a regular hood, which I like since I find it better for sleeping. It's also lighter. Amazing product, but Timmermade has a bit of a convoluted ordering system. They're a very small company with very high demand, and they hand make every item to order. So, they have this system where throughout the month an essay question will be on the website. You have to write a paragraph answer and send it to them, and they select a portion of the correct answers to get a coupon allowing them to place an order the next month (for difficult questions it might be 100%, for easy ones it might only be 10%). Honestly, I probably wouldn't bother - I can see that On-the-Shelf they've got a couple of the heavier 3.6oz/yd\^2 insulation versions. Or, you could get the Enlightened Equipment Torrid Hood which is more easily available but doesn't cover the whole face.
I love Neve Gear. They're high quality and lightweight, and even after shipping + import fees (they're based in Australia) they end up cheaper than equivalent quilts from Enlightened Equipment, Cumulus etc.
Difficult question. I honestly think both would be fine. The -2 would probably be more comfortable in summer, but could become borderline during shoulder season if you get an especially cold or exposed night. The -8 is a safer bet for poor weather and colder camps, although during summer you’d likely be quite warm. One advantage of quilts though is that they vent very easily, so overheating is still manageable. Personally I’d lean towards the -2 because I’m quite weight conscious and wouldn’t want to carry extra insulation on warmer trips. Given Neve’s ratings seem pretty conservative - they say the -2 is more like comfortable to around -7 for warm sleepers/men - it should still handle most Scottish 3-season conditions fine. That said, Scotland can be damp and windy, and quilts are a bit more draft-sensitive than sleeping bags. The -8 gives you a larger safety margin if the weather turns nasty or you regularly camp high up on colder shoulder-season trips.
Quilts are great. They're lighter and more comfortable than sleeping bags. The main considerations are head insulation and draught control. The way a quilt attaches to your sleeping pad matters quite a lot to prevent draughts of cold air from cooling you down. You should also pair a quilt with a slightly more insulated sleeping pad. Obviously quilts don't cover your head. You could wear a beanie and a buff, or just wear the hood of your jacket. I have a synthetic full face insulation system made especially for quilts, because synthetic copes a lot better with hair oils and condensation from your breath than down does. Quilts are absolutely warm enough for the UK. You want to be looking at a quilt with a comfort rating of 0C/30F and a limit of -6C/20F or around that kind of range in order to be comfortable for three season use. Ideally pair with a pad with an R-value of 4 or higher. When buying a quilt make sure to look into whether the advertised temperature is comfort or limit.
I use the Timmermade SUL Waterbear - Climashield. The SUL version is quite tight around your face and is more fitted than a regular hood, which I like since I find it better for sleeping. It's also lighter. Amazing product, but Timmermade has a bit of a convoluted ordering system. They're a very small company with very high demand, and they hand make every item to order. So, they have this system where throughout the month an essay question will be on the website. You have to write a paragraph answer and send it to them, and they select a portion of the correct answers to get a coupon allowing them to place an order the next month (for difficult questions it might be 100%, for easy ones it might only be 10%). Honestly, I probably wouldn't bother - I can see that On-the-Shelf they've got a couple of the heavier 3.6oz/yd\^2 insulation versions. Or, you could get the Enlightened Equipment Torrid Hood which is more easily available but doesn't cover the whole face.
I love Neve Gear. They're high quality and lightweight, and even after shipping + import fees (they're based in Australia) they end up cheaper than equivalent quilts from Enlightened Equipment, Cumulus etc.
Difficult question. I honestly think both would be fine. The -2 would probably be more comfortable in summer, but could become borderline during shoulder season if you get an especially cold or exposed night. The -8 is a safer bet for poor weather and colder camps, although during summer you’d likely be quite warm. One advantage of quilts though is that they vent very easily, so overheating is still manageable. Personally I’d lean towards the -2 because I’m quite weight conscious and wouldn’t want to carry extra insulation on warmer trips. Given Neve’s ratings seem pretty conservative - they say the -2 is more like comfortable to around -7 for warm sleepers/men - it should still handle most Scottish 3-season conditions fine. That said, Scotland can be damp and windy, and quilts are a bit more draft-sensitive than sleeping bags. The -8 gives you a larger safety margin if the weather turns nasty or you regularly camp high up on colder shoulder-season trips.
I am shorter than OP at 6'2 but have the -2 waratah in 6'6 version and it is good stuff. haven't taken it down that cold yet but it's a nice bit of kit especially at the money.
I have that exact quilt that you linked and love it. Have used it in my hammock and in a tent together with a Rapide pad in temperatures ranging from -10 - 25 C.
Don’t forget loft height! FP/ weight is great but also don’t forget the loft and also baffle design. Are they box baffles or sown through. If sown through then you get gaps/,compressed down/insulation etc
Neve waratah is insane for its price! Cant speak for otimos but I’ve had a few quilts over the years from various highly reputable cottage brand quilt makers and I’d have to put the neve right up there for warmth/weight/comfort due to its price. Only thing that made the others stand out more were the customisation options
Nice I got the -2. Before that I had an el coyote and nunatek super expensive but some people swap their phones out each year, I like to swap out backpacking gear haha I think I’ll stick with the -2 for now. Interesting thought about the ZB - adaptors. I’ve yet to find myself wanting that sort of backpacking bed set up but does look super comfy! What pad you using for it?
Have you tried various ways of packing? Example Put a dry bag in/pack liner Stuff the sleeping bags into the bottom out of their carry bags Stuff everything else you require to stay dry on top (that you don’t need till you camp) I also fold my sleeping pad into a square and put them upright against the bakc panel of the bag Close off pack liner Tent Put things you may need on top in another waterproof like electronics, food, waterproofs, puffy jacket etc close off. Tent if free standing, remove tent poles from bag so the tent packs smaller and stick them in your side pocket etc same with pegs Utilise outside space for bits like waterproofs if the pack has the available pockets on the outside If doesn’t work - then for me, if it’s a regular thing I wouldn’t buy a smaller pack. Bigger packs tend to get filled up because you have that space and think “what if I need x, well I have the space so fuck it I’ll bring it” and end up weighing a tonne. If it’s not a regular thing, go for whatever is cheapest So the way I’ve grown my kit is to buy more packable items/lighter items and then over time I’ve got smaller packs.
Got ya. Nooo sorry I mean dependent on how regular you’re doing this. If it’s a regular thing I’d always focus on dropping the weight and size of things. So therefore I’d keep the pack and buy smaller/lighter gear. Makes hiking easier, easier on your back, knees etc less effort carrying as everything’s lighter, less cumbersome and can enjoy the hike more. If it’s just a one off or not very often then I’d go for the cheaper option which would be return the pack and buy the bigger pack that would fit everything in
Yeahhh I mean obviously splitting between the 2 of you requires a bit more thinking, When I first started trekking I think my total weight sat around 18kg base weight being around 12 Now I’m on 4-5kg depending on how long I’m out for as a base weight and 8kg inc food and water etc What I found with that is just my enjoyment is elevated because the lack of weight burden.

NEMO
Disco 15 Series
Spacious spoon shape, but bulky and inconsistent warmth.
Hammock Gear
Classic Burrow 20°F
Budget-friendly quilt; very warm, but not ultralight.

NEMO
Disco 30
Roomy spoon shape, but bulky and prone to zipper snags.

Katabatic Gear
Alsek 22°F Quilt
Premium quality, very warm, but high price for weight.

Neve Gear
Waratah
Great warmth-to-weight and value, but untreated down.

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