Arc UL 20

My wife is about your height and sleeps cold. The only place we were able to find that sells a quilt that's actually sized correctly for her (ie doesn't have 6" of dead space at the bottom) was Nunatak. X-short is up to 5'3" height. Exceptional quality and she can actually get the air space warm now. Spendy and possibly a long wait to buy new, but we found hers (an Arc 20) on ulgeartrade for 280 bucks. 18.8oz so nearly 6oz savings

Neve waratah is insane for its price! Cant speak for otimos but I’ve had a few quilts over the years from various highly reputable cottage brand quilt makers and I’d have to put the neve right up there for warmth/weight/comfort due to its price. Only thing that made the others stand out more were the customisation options

Nice I got the -2. Before that I had an el coyote and nunatek super expensive but some people swap their phones out each year, I like to swap out backpacking gear haha I think I’ll stick with the -2 for now. Interesting thought about the ZB - adaptors. I’ve yet to find myself wanting that sort of backpacking bed set up but does look super comfy! What pad you using for it?

Have you tried various ways of packing? Example Put a dry bag in/pack liner Stuff the sleeping bags into the bottom out of their carry bags Stuff everything else you require to stay dry on top (that you don’t need till you camp) I also fold my sleeping pad into a square and put them upright against the bakc panel of the bag Close off pack liner Tent Put things you may need on top in another waterproof like electronics, food, waterproofs, puffy jacket etc close off. Tent if free standing, remove tent poles from bag so the tent packs smaller and stick them in your side pocket etc same with pegs Utilise outside space for bits like waterproofs if the pack has the available pockets on the outside If doesn’t work - then for me, if it’s a regular thing I wouldn’t buy a smaller pack. Bigger packs tend to get filled up because you have that space and think “what if I need x, well I have the space so fuck it I’ll bring it” and end up weighing a tonne. If it’s not a regular thing, go for whatever is cheapest So the way I’ve grown my kit is to buy more packable items/lighter items and then over time I’ve got smaller packs.

Got ya. Nooo sorry I mean dependent on how regular you’re doing this. If it’s a regular thing I’d always focus on dropping the weight and size of things. So therefore I’d keep the pack and buy smaller/lighter gear. Makes hiking easier, easier on your back, knees etc less effort carrying as everything’s lighter, less cumbersome and can enjoy the hike more. If it’s just a one off or not very often then I’d go for the cheaper option which would be return the pack and buy the bigger pack that would fit everything in

Can't go wrong with katabatic or nunatuk. I'm 5'7" and have both of these in short, so you'll definitely be fine with a short. Katabatics run narrow (at least they did when I bought mine), so get a wide if you get one.

[Nunatak](https://nunatakusa.com/UltralightFastpackingGear%7CNunatak%7CCustomFastpackingGear-NunatakEquipment) Another quilt company. I've had one since 2009, and it has held up great. It's rotated to more of a backup/loaner over the last few years, but it's still in good condition.

nunatak if you can get it and jacksrbetter are fantastic quilt options. definitely opt for a shorter bag, you’ll be swimming in a 6’ bag or quilt, abuse your height for those precious weight savings! per the head covering, and you saying you won’t often be in cold climes, the quilt should be warm enough to keep your head warm. worst case is you bring a hat of some sort to help supplement. outdoor research make a down beanie.