Western Mountaineering - VersaLite

Despite the good reputation, I was surprised to find that many of WM's ratings are way more optimistic than their EN ratings. Versalite and Summerlite are the biggest offenders [https://www.westernmountaineering.com/faqs/](https://www.westernmountaineering.com/faqs/)

I definitely agree with the other posters. You clearly are a cold sleeper and although I think one can adapt a little on longer trips, your current system is clearly not cutting it. I’d recommend something like the WM versalite and an xtherm . If the money is too much, I’d echo the other suggestion of adding a CCF pad to your Nemo and some kind of liner to the quilt but , ultimately, I think in your case a bag will always be preferable to a quilt in these temps .

I move a lot in my sleep, and in cold weather I always get drafts with quilts. For Western bags, measure the circumference around your shoulders. If you’re <62” try the Antelope instead. If you sleep warm and you’re 62”-64” try the Versalite (10 degree but lighter fabric). If you’re 65”+ the Kodiak is the bag.

Consider Western Mountaineering- I own four now I love them so much. The Versalite 10° is comparable to a 0° bag, and has legroom. It has a proper mummy hood, but if you’re cold you’ll likely be wanting that. My wife takes this bag out in 20°-ish weather, and her feet get warm within minutes of being in the bag.

If you’re looking for a really warm yet still light bag I did the PCT with the Western Mountaineering Versalite. It ended up being overkill for me but it’s an amazing bag as long as you don’t mind the cost

I liked my quilt when I was doing shorter trips. Once I started doing months at a time I grabbed a western mountaineering bag and I have no regrets. Helps me extend a bit more into shoulder season

I think the WM versalite is what you’re looking for. In my opinion the most versatile 3-season bag

Second the WM recommendation. I own three myself: Ultralite, Versalite and a Flylite. Quality bags.

Western Mountaineering is the benchmark. Their bags really are great. In addition to WM, I also own a Gryphon Gear quilt and can say that their quality is top notch as well and they make both bags and quilts. For a few hundred less than a WM bag, you can get a Gryphon Gear Taurus bag. They are a small cottage shop so you get to deal directly with the owner and he'll make it custom to your liking if you want it a little more roomy. I think there are so many better choices than the EE quilts.

Western Mountaineering is great. Also check out Feathered Friends.

I own two sleeping bags: one from Western Mountaineering (superb quality, but very expensive) and one from Cumulus (high quality at a fairly reasonable price). After a lot of comparison, I personally think both brands provide reliable comfort temperature ratings and are absolutely worth the money. Just remember: if you're physically worn out, the lower limit of the comfort range might not be enough-so it's smart to give yourself a little warmth buffer.

Good suggestion! I love my western mountaineering. But Radiant 20 is legit for under $200.

Western mountaineering, awesome bags and uber lightweight.

Partner Stove and Western Mountaineering sleeping bag.

The weakest link spoils the fun. Sleeping back: -5 degrees in winter, ignore the rating just get a Western Mountaineering bag for all but summer, in that rating. Bottom layer for ground: closed cell foam like RidgeRest, I don't like air matressesl they take work Old sleeping bag on top of that foam pad. Another sleeping bag or blanket over you. I can't stay confined inside a mummy bag but I need one for warmth so I keep the zipper open on top so I can turn and the blanket/sleeping bag on top. It's all fun with advice at home, but bring more than you need and experiment what works for you. I was more cold and shaking in 20 degrees (rectangular bag, foam pad, little else) than I was later on in -10 degrees with the right gear and "layers" described above. https://preview.redd.it/ceia9yeziire1.png?width=1569&format=png&auto=webp&s=4dcb31bd3abce5073f985278d6ac184f36e8a144

I buy Western Mountaineering lol!

Our go to is Western Mountaineering bags. They have specific tailored bags for mountaineering.