JBL - Xtreme 4

Yes, the xtreme 4 is the one with replaceable battery, i've never heard it in perdón but it is probably true that the bass is less Deep due to having a bigger battery reducing the space inside for bass to resonate. About buying refurbished, well, all of the speakers that i have owned (12 in total) are actually used, not refurbished but literally bought used from other people and i've never had any problem, i honestly think that that's better than buying refurbished because the prices are lower and you can inspect the state of the speaker personally before buying, though i think that buying refurbished isn't a bad option too.

Simply your ears and your reference points. While x4 is crazily over priced the x10 is tuned for the playground. If you heard the same tracks over some balanced hifi they would sound like they are playing different tracks.

You're not into bass. I got it 2 days ago and I'm going to return it because the bass isn't enough. JBL extreme 4 has more bass but I want more

I was considering upgrading my JBL charge 5 to a bigger and better bluetooth speaker. I tried a JBL Extreme 4 and on top of the fact that it’s really big compared to other brands in the same price range / category (es bose soundlink max is definitely smaller) i’m not really convinced by it. Does anyone has any advice regarding the best option? Price is not the issue here, just want a really good speaker with intense bass, clean and loud sound and good connectivity

Extreme 4 size maximum, bigger would be too big. Although it feels like for the size extreme 4 is a tad disappointing especially for its basses at high volume

Best waterproof with aesthetics and great sound included are generally jbl's. A charge 5 you can maybe find for 100$ sometimes, going bigger would be the xtremes, and while those are not that much more powerful than the charge 5, the bass hits deeper and have a wider soundstage as well as carry strap if you're into that But yeah, for 200$, you can maybe find an xtreme 3, but while the xtreme 3 looks better than the 4(in my oppinion) it's worth it to go for the xtreme 4 for something over 200$ as it has removeable battery Charge 5 is waterproof, relatively cheap with the quality it provides and rugged af so it should satisfy you

It's very good for the weight. The recent firmware updates fixed the compression at high volumes. I'm only keeping it because I managed to get most of it expensed with my job otherwise at that price I'd rather deal with a less convenient form-factor and stick with JBL Boombox 3. For purely its sound quality for the weight/form factor I don't believe there's better in the industry right now. For the sound quality/price, Boom 2 easily. Xtreme 4 is not an invalid competitor but it loses ALL of its bass at 70% or higher volume which the Bose managed to keep. Bass is even a little too much at times I prefer to put it on -3 in the EQ. It's extremely "Beachable" and extremely easy to carry around. The rubber is also not that rubber that wears off and becomes "sticky". I've seen people call it a purse but I don't have low self-esteem so I guess it never bothered me.

Simply put, if you're even remotely on the fence, I would not get it. You have to be 100% certain that you ABSOLUTELY ONLY want this form factor to power ratio. I'll try my best to answer this because it is a bit of a tricky thing. After 4 more days of listening to it, overall for sound quality as I am at the most recent firmware (4.3.30 as of now) and **I don't hear the issues of distortion** that others talk about or that I have even heard in videos at all. However, after listening to it more, I can "sort of hear" very rarely some compression at the 90% to 100% volume to prevent that distortion. It is substantially less than prior firmwares. Both Xtreme 4 and Boom 2 have their own way to manage distortion. Xtreme 4 drops the bass completely after 70% or higher. Boom 2 just lets it distort. The bass is very overbearing on the Soundlink max so-much-so sometimes that I'm permanently -3'ing it in the EQ. That being said, the Bose Soundlink Max is SUBSTANTIALLY louder than both the Boom 2 and the Xtreme 4. 90% volume across the 3 (so when I can sort of hear artifacts) is NOT equivalent AT ALL. The Bose is INCREDIBLY loud. If I had to try to equate them volumes, 85% Volume Bose SoundLink Max == 95% Xtreme 4 >= 100% Boom 2. Which bring me to my next question, how often do you need something so loud from something so small? Dunno. Honestly 80% is way fine for me. 60% max indoors. So to summarize, the *very rare* compressions only can happen at volumes that I do not regularly use the Max at. I'd just like to note that I did have 2 more issues that everyone "Certified me as normal" (probably because shilling). There is SUBSTANTIAL parasitic drain. Think 20%-25% battery in 2 weeks. The battery also gets MURKED at 80% volume. It's normal that it drains more, but the drainage was insane. The drain wasn't anywhere near that intense on the JBL Xtreme 4 at high volumes. So to repeat myself, unless you REALLY WANT THE FORM FACTOR (and this was huge for me), I'd upgrade to the JBL Boombox 3 for bigger sound or stick to the Xtreme 4 and Boom 2 if you want to keep the form factor. Favoring Boom 2 imo. It's important to note that we probably don't have the same use case. I listen to a lot of genres of music that are often instrumentally heavy but not vocally-heavy and not necessarily always bass-heavy. Xtreme 4 sounds better for vocals because of how much focus it puts on the mids if you don't care about anything else. Boom 2 is just a bass machine. Bose Max for "All-Rounder".

At those volumes I'd say Xtreme 4 comes out ahead.

If you want a portable speaker with bass try the jbl Xtreme 3 or 4 they are amazing on bass and it's noticeable and of you really want a portable speaker with heavy bass for a portable speaker get the boombox 3 I have the jbl Xtreme 4 and boombox 3 and my boombox has a lot more bass compared to my Xtreme 4

Well compare to my Charge 5 and Xtreme 4, going bigger is better

The xtreme 4 has much deeper bass than the charge 5. And it's stereo too. I just got my charge 5 today and it has pretty good bass. I also have a flip 6 so when partyboosted they hit pretty hard

JBL Xtreme 4 is solid for bass, but if you want deeper lows, consider the Soundcore Motion Boom Plus or Sony XB43. Both hit hard under $300!

Boombox 3 and xtreme 4 have major battery issues I’ve been through 3 boombox 3s and two xtremes and my current xtreme is broken.

Soundcore boom 2, jbl xtreme 4, tribit stormbox flow, tribit stormbox micro 2, bose soundlink max, jbl boombox 3 The best battery life speakers that i own.

Bose soundlink max, Bose Soundlink Flex 2nd Generation, Soundcore Motion x600, Soundcore Boom 2 Plus, Harman Kardon Go+ Play, JBL Xtreme 4, are just a few of my favorites that I own.

The JBL Extreme 3/4 are super solid, long battery life, usb charger, 1/8 inch trs in. It goes on trips with my Ambient O. ;-)

Xtreme series has never been good audio wise imo in the jbl lineup, except it's durability and portability with its shoulder strap, if you're comparing sound per dollar I'm pretty sure there are better sounding wired speakers than the wking too, so it's all about a matter of tradeoffs you're willing to have for speakers. The xtreme 4s main selling point is definitely it's better build quality, and hence higher production costs, however JBL is definitely making a much larger profit off their speakers than wking which is a much smaller company with less advertising, and misc costs like packaging