ADIDAS - Adizero Adios Pro 2

The AP4 is very soft. This is a big difference from the AP3 and AP2, which were quite firm. Different attributes of super shoes can make them unstable for some people, and instability can lead to strain and injury. The point is that all super shoes are not the same. You may have weak ankles, or weak tendons, or something else, and the softness of the AP4 might not work for you. Would a firmer super shoe work for you? Maybe, maybe not. But you do not need super shoes to run a marathon. The Endorphin Speed is a lighter, faster, and all around better shoe than the flats people used to race marathons in before the widespread adoption of the Vaporfly and others. I’ve raced in those flats! ES and similar are a great choice for a marathon. Wear the shoe that works for you. FWIW, I find the ASICS Metaspeed Sky/Edge Paris (not Tokyo) and the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 to be much easier super shoes to wear—the EP4 is probably the more stable of the two.

Lightstrike Pro is TPEE, not PEBA. Personally, I've had better luck with Atreyu's outsoles, than that thin version from Adidas. My Adios Pro 2 were burned through on the lateral forefoot at 200 miles (Takumi Sen is doing worse), while I got 350 miles out of The Artist. If the Evo SL had the same outsole as the Boston 12/Prime X, I'd be all in. I put 750+ on the Prime X and it still looked good. I'd be interested to hear how well this new polyurethane outsole holds up. OP didn't make any mention of the outsole.

Dont worry about those time claims. If they feel great for you, buy them. I have several pairs and use the from everything from 5k races to half marathon long runs. my marathon time is currently estimated above 4 hours with a 2 hour half marathon record. The only shoes I will choose over the AP4 are the Pro Ovo 1 and 2 which are supposed to be for even faster runners. For me, I want the most premium foam I can buy if I am going to be running 2 to 4 hours. I started buying adidas shoes with the Takumi Sen 10 (supposedly for 5k) and Adios Pro 3. I was unstable on the Takumi Sen 10 at about 210lb mass but the AP3 was great and I used them for everything from 1 mile jogs to 5k runs. I have dialed back my carbon plate adoption by picking up some Evo SL and Nike Vomero premium pairs for training, but I will still run 5Ks on my AP4

I have hyp max 3 and shoot for similar times. There’s some alternatives I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend as well eg. superblast 2 or megablast but for me the adidas supershoes never worked; maybe cos I’m 90kg? And as for new balance, love their 1080 and More but found the SC Elite v4 caused me immense issues with medial blisters over a marathon distance..one of those ones you should really try before you buy. I did an Ironman last year and was paranoid about stack heights so ended up using hyp elite 5 instead of the hyp max 3 - they are brilliant but as you say maybe overkill, and if it wasn’t for “illegal” stack height hyp max 3 are great. So if you are wedded to a brooks, go for it.

Not sure this is dictated by weight. Anecdotal: Nimbus and 1080 work well for slow runs for me. Daily trainers, pegasus, ride, velocity etc, i don't think they're that different. Just in the way they fit, and nike generally fits best. Adios are probably too barebones for me in hindsight. And vongo are too hard. And novablast are too loose/unstable, idk how to describe it.

Only would do one or two test runs before my marathons in my vaporflys. I wanted to save that awesome spring for race days. Long runs I’d use something like a kinvara or Boston. Workout days , my favorite was the Adidas Adios. I’m retired from racing, but i still have my OG Vaporfly. I now use them for my faster days.

*Question from:* u/Flat_Olive8498 *How will the hyperboost running lineup evolve and how will hyperboost, lightstrike pro and dreamstrike + coexist? Will hyperboost replace dreamstrike?* Love this question. Adizero is built for speed, to break pbs , be fast and feel fast- to equip you for raceday or get ready for it, featured by Lightstrike Pro foam and energy rods. Hyperboost is built for max cushioning, high energy return resulting in a (non-plated) lightweight supertrainer- featured by Hyperboost Pro foam. Supernova is your daily trainer, with more supportive comfort , featured by Dreamstrike +. All can coexist in a shoe rotation or be used individually for their distinct purpose. I personally use Adizero Adios Pro for race day, Adizero Evo SL for fast training runs , and Supernova for easy runs, Hyperboost Pro ( I run a testing pair) became a staple for me in my rotation for various use cases, from short to long runs- the great thing it has that “hidden” gas pedal insight that you can always hit. If you need only one shoe Hyperboost Edge is a great choice.

For me it’s surface dependent. I personally use a max cushion road race shoe for tempo / threshold work, something like the adios pro. All my tempo / threshold work is on pavement. If I’m doing intervals / vo2 max work I’ll generally do it on grass or a track and wear something closer to flats like a Takumi Sen or Streakfly. I run marathon distance + so I never get into paces where I feel like I need spikes.

Thanks for that suggestion. I might have to get some of those! I love my adios pros so the SL might be a good counterpart.

Right now it’s the Vomero 18 if I were replacing a pair of Novablasts. Such a well rounded shoe and 100% could run a marathon in. I also got the adidas Adios pro Equiptment. Which is the pro 3 with a more lifestyle upper that is infinitely better than the pro 3 upper and laces. I’ve done my last 2 long runs in them and they have been great.