Adizero Adios Pro 2

The AP4 is very soft. This is a big difference from the AP3 and AP2, which were quite firm. Different attributes of super shoes can make them unstable for some people, and instability can lead to strain and injury. The point is that all super shoes are not the same. You may have weak ankles, or weak tendons, or something else, and the softness of the AP4 might not work for you. Would a firmer super shoe work for you? Maybe, maybe not. But you do not need super shoes to run a marathon. The Endorphin Speed is a lighter, faster, and all around better shoe than the flats people used to race marathons in before the widespread adoption of the Vaporfly and others. I’ve raced in those flats! ES and similar are a great choice for a marathon. Wear the shoe that works for you. FWIW, I find the ASICS Metaspeed Sky/Edge Paris (not Tokyo) and the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 to be much easier super shoes to wear—the EP4 is probably the more stable of the two.

My first taste of unstable supershoes was with the Adidas Adios Pro 2. I felt like a baby giraffe, wobbling all over the place. Years later, I can now run in that same model of shoes (and similar shoes) without much issue. Through repetition and practice I became better at landing more precisely with my stride. But even after these improvements, there are moments where certain shoes feel unstable. My most stable "supershoes" are the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 and Endorphin Elite 1 models. There is virtually no wobble in these for me. So you can practice until you become better at managing your footstrike or you can try out a typically more stable model of shoes.

Adidas with Lightstrike Pro midsoles. Specifically, the Adios Pro and EVO SL.

Adizro Evo Pro 2, and I'll stick with em if I can find another pair before IM California! I put any 5k into em as a test. All I needed to know for fast they were. Adidas makes similar fitting lower end models I train in sometimes to get a feel for the ride.

I disagree and will use super shoes for any long distance at any pace. A sub 4 marathon pace shouldn’t be seen as a slow pace but it is considered slow on social media, in real life it isn’t. What I like about using super shoes at a slow pace is they help keep my posture in place and I can really get myself into a good groovy pace that’s easy to maintain for 5+hours. For me it’s all about the rocker, a good rocker and the shoe will do all the hard work for you. I found a relatively new pair of adios pro 2 for $100 on market place and they’ve been my go to long distance training shoes. Maybe try to find something cheap on marketplace and see if carbon plated shoes are right for you. In my experience it’s not true that they don’t preform well at lower paces, it’s a matter of locking into your targeted pace perfectly and next day recovery is very minimal compared to a soft, plushy super max show.

Dont worry about those time claims. If they feel great for you, buy them. I have several pairs and use the from everything from 5k races to half marathon long runs. my marathon time is currently estimated above 4 hours with a 2 hour half marathon record. The only shoes I will choose over the AP4 are the Pro Ovo 1 and 2 which are supposed to be for even faster runners. For me, I want the most premium foam I can buy if I am going to be running 2 to 4 hours. I started buying adidas shoes with the Takumi Sen 10 (supposedly for 5k) and Adios Pro 3. I was unstable on the Takumi Sen 10 at about 210lb mass but the AP3 was great and I used them for everything from 1 mile jogs to 5k runs. I have dialed back my carbon plate adoption by picking up some Evo SL and Nike Vomero premium pairs for training, but I will still run 5Ks on my AP4

**About Me:** **80kg / 40sM / Heelish striker** **5:30k easy pace, 4:15k MP - 180+ cadence at all speeds.** I mocked the B13 when it dropped. What was Adidas thinking, the EVO SL was the tempo trainer / do it all. I had two pairs of the EVOs. I didn’t usually take beyond 16KM without getting niggles though. Randomly I bought a pair of B13s when I found them in my size for 60% off. I put them on. Great upper. Way better than the EVO SL. I took a few steps… are these Cole Haan dress shoes? I’ve literally never felt a firmer midsole. My first run was uninspiring. Firm and bricky with no bounce and no pop. But, I had just gone through a string of very soft shoes and was dealing with some leg pain… those firm shoes somehow had my legs feeling good after a session…. Odd… I stuck with them… around 50k down I noticed they had loosed up and I was starting to feel the snap of the energy rods, they started to feel like an Adios Pro 3. 100k in and the midsole became soft without feeling spongy. At this point I had purchased a Megablast and yet I found myself grabbing the Boston most days. 200k down. The outsole shows no wear. The upper is still great. The laces are still absolutely trash… and the midsole… the midsole has a beautiful sink in and snap off… an absolute zone 3 banger. Would I race in these? No, the Edge Tokyos or DNE3s are faster and more comfortable… but for anything else… these are my favorite shoe. I don’t think adidas could have pulled off how this midsole feels from the factory. The beauty of it is the process. This is an objectively better shoe than the EVO SL if you are willing to wait it out.

I'm your weight and will be aiming for 10mins faster than you in my next half marathon. I need a wide toebox so size up in every shoe I buy, sometimes half a size, mostly 1 full size. The Megablast was such an amazing shoe that I persisted with it for 3 months before sending it back for being too narrow. The Superblast I just sent straight back. It was also too narrow but unlikely the Megablast it does not have the insane bounce and amazing legsavingness. The Evo SL is a tad unstable but it is really fast and I find it alright upto half marathon distance. The Pro 4 is far too soft and feels like the foam gets crushed by my weight and provides little resistance it I have my 10km PB in these shoes. It is quite narrow but the upper is very stretchy which seems to be alright. So, I purchased a pair of Adidas Equipment Adios Pro which have the same midsole, rubber and rods from the Pro 3. I thought it was exactly what I needed... But after 75km these things are like running on bricks. I feel my whole body vibrate when I heel strike at pace. My recommendation would be to buy the Megablast and see if you can get on with it. It is amazing... Failing that I wear your Evo SL, mine are super fast. On the super shoe front I would go to a running shop and try on half a dozen super shoes and see which you like. The ASICS super shoes I've worn, (aside from the Paris versions) have rather stretchy upper which when sized up works quite nicely.