Supernova Prima 2

I’d try the Evo SL, Boston 13 and SL2 side by side. All three have Lightstrike Pro foam, which is more speed oriented than Dreamstrike+. For me the Evo and B13 were too wide in the forefoot; might be just the ticket for you. B13 should give a bit more stability. I never tried SL2, but I like the combo LSP midsole foam + almost full outsole coverage. I just completed a 50 mins cross country 10k on my brand new Supernova Prima 2’s. I expect that to improve as these break in, so assume that the Rise 2 should also easily carry you to that 1:40 HM. You just need a good day. Seeing that you refer to a 1:50 HM as ‘gentle’, I expect you to be a very fit 96 kg runner ;)

I just returned a pair of Triumph 23’s, because the forefoot fit didn’t work for me. But the sole felt amazing: well cushioned, yet not (mushy) soft, nice bounce to it and good rocker. Yesterday my Supernova Prima 2’s arrived, which feel perfect. I’m coming from 1080 v14, which is very soft and with 450+ km on them are starting to exacerbate my IT Band issues (desk job 😕). So I see where you’re coming from. For a medium-narrow foot, I’d recommend to give both my options a try. If too soft/high stack, I’d go Ride 18.

Less frequently recommended, but solid shoe: Adidas Supernova Prima. First edition is still out there on sale and has a roomier upper than the Prima 2. You can also try the Rise, which is the lower stack sister.

I have Novablast 4 and 5 for daily, Supernova Prima for easy/long, Takumi Sen 10 for interval and short racing, and Evo SL for short fast runs (3k/5k) or tempo. They’re a lot of fun. However, I didn’t like it for easy long runs or recovery. Probably those who swear by it for easy running have their easy runs as fast as my race pace lol

Great question as I struggle with that sometimes. First, just a disclaimer that I’m a shopping addict so having more categories serves to justify buying more shoes. The NB4 is honestly more than enough for someone like me. Injured, 43m with a 5k of 24 minutes lol. I also have the Zoom Fly 6, SL2, Alpha Fly 3 and Adios 9. But seriously, daily would be smthn like the NB4 where I go out and run without any planning, just run however I feel at the time and add more miles. Unless I have a planned session (tempo, interval, easy or long), I’m going to wear the NB4. It’s usually 5k-10k at zone 2/3, which is most of my days. The Supernova Prima certainly works great for that purpose, and the NB4 works great for long runs.

Hey OP. I have very flat feet and also pronate quite a lot. I'm currently using the Adidas Supernova Prima as my go to stability shoe for long and easy runs. Still shopping around for a race day shoe, so if you find anything that works for you please let me know

The Supernova’s from Adidas could be perfect. They all stability elements. The rise and prima are perfect daily trainer with perfect stability, a great upper and massive energy return with 10mm drop. The prima is the max cushioned rise with 8mm drop. Nearly as stable as the rise but a bit softer.

I use them for shorter faster runs and really enjoy the Supernova Prima for daily/long. The Prima could probably do it all for you, though, and you know it works. If it ain’t broke?

I see you tried and like the Supernova Prima. For me, that’s nearly as good as the Superblast 2 without the price/noise.

High instep, high arch and slightly wider forefoot here - lots of trial and error! I feel you. Here's a few I've liked: \- Vomero Plus (a touch narrow in the toe box, but otherwise works really well) \- TYR Maverick - My current favorite shoe, and my daily. Anatomic toebox, flexible offer and great lockdown with 44m drop in a lightweight package. \- EVO SL - Fits really well, but is best for fast runs and not the most stable. Not a beginning shoe, IMO (no idea your running journey). Frequently on sale for \~$100. \- Adidas Supernova Prima - Excellent fit and foam, very balanced daily trainer. \- NB SC Elite V4 and V5 - More of a racing shoe, but also suitable for speed work and long runs. Does have a carbon fiber plate, but the V4 version is one of the least aggressive race shoes out there. Hope this helps!

At that price point, something like the Supernova is going to be more exciting and versatile with a better fit, too.

This for me as well - slight overpronation - when using exclusively soft shoes whole week I do get in trouble very quickly - my 2 weeks with nb1080v14/Evo SL ended up with 2 months of ankle /PTTD pain. Switched to more stable rotation (supernova prima/boston 13) and doesn’t have any issue since then. Still using unstable Adios 9 / Takumi Sen 10 on some faster intervals but basic is done on stable shoes and that does help. If you overpronate mildly I don’t think you need Stability shoes as such, just buy something Stable/Neutral so you got solid base and mix it with something fast/fun which might be bit unstable in your rotation for faster stuff. I think personally there are stability problems with newer shoes but more than before as you have lots of soft foam / higher stack shoes that do cause various issues which did not exist 3-4 years ago.

If you in the US try supernova prima that adidas has for €64 now - might work very well for you. Nice wide fit, soft but not too soft (1080/nimbus), stable and not too heavy. Worth a go and Adidas offers 30 days No question returns so zero risk.

Surprised Puma isn't a more popular response here. That would be my choice (Velocity for daily, Deviate for tempo, Deviate Elite racer), but I don't think I agree with your critiques of other brands. Adidas max cruiser -- Supernova Prima or PrimeX fit this bill ASICS -- if anything they're competing against themselves by offering too many tempo options: Sonicblast, Magic Speed, S4+ Yogiri, Hyperspeed (budget, shorter efforts) together with their highly versatile trainers Superblast, Megablast, and Novablast. They're not my favorite, but it's not for lack of quality options. Saucony -- are you saying their daily trainers are good but their offerings in other categories are lacking?