Altra - Torin 8

I’m flat footed and over pronate. Practiced so I mid foot strike and I used the altra torin 8s wide for my race. I use them for my long runs and the escalante 2s for short runs.

I don't even love the actual shoe but fitwise, Torin 8 is perfect for my generally a bit wide and def quite wide forefoot. I imagine Lone Peak and Paradigm would be the same but I personally dont need those shoe types. It's kinda frustrating Altra has such a limited selection of 2E. I enjoyed the feel of Experience Flow & Escalante Racer but had to return, just didn't work without the 2E Topo has a nice wide, rounded toebox. But frustratingly there, a very narrow midfoot If you wanna stick with a regular shoe brand, a lot of NB shoes are wider than average. I'm using Rebel v5 rn

Currently Altra Torins and Lone Peaks. Lone Peaks have been my go-to trail shoes for years, but my road favorites keep getting discontinued. The Torin 8s are fine, especially for long runs, but I wish I could find something a little lighter and closer to the ground for everything else. I've got my fingers crossed Saucony will start offering Kinvaras in wide again with future models. I have fond memories of my Kinvara 11s.

Can confirm. My feet look a lot like OP's, and this is what I currently run in.

Altra Torin in men's wide is slightly wider than Whitin wide running shoes in my size (men's 7), so may be worth a try?

Altra Torin in wide is another option for roads, for those that need both a wide midfoot and a roomy toe box. Saucony's wide size models are also pretty generous through the midfoot and less tapered in the toe box than New Balance, but not tapered than Altra.

I’m looking for the same things in a road shoe that you are. I wish the Kinvara had a wider toe box. I really like everything else about that shoe. The Hyperion 2 fits really well. To me, it feels like more than 8mm of drop. I did a demo run in the Torin 8. It’s not a bad shoe but feels a little dead and stiff. I didn’t care much for the heel cup either. The Rebel V4 fits weird. It’s too short but has a really wide fit. I put 50 miles in a pair and decided to pass them on to a friend. Kept getting blisters on the end of my toes. It could be a possibility for you. The Mount to Coast R1 caused me severe arch pain. I have high arches so I don’t understand why I was getting pain there. I think I actually liked the Torin 8 better. The Altra FWD Via feels really good in the store. It’s more stack than I want but tempted to give it a go. It’s kind of expensive. I can’t find a Rivera to try on. The Altra Experience Flow might be an option. Everything about the Kinvara feels better though with the exception of the toe box.

I love my Altras. Just switched to them about a month ago from Diadoras after losing a ton of weight and also moving from walking to running. I have the Torin 8 model which has the wider toe box and zero drop. They’re a bit heavier than my previous shoes but I’d been having issues with my hip flexors and the zero drop was recommended for that. Plus my feet are wide but not *wide* so having the extra room in the toes is great. I tried one of their traditional models also (still with the roomier toe box) and the zero drop felt better just walking around the store. That’s persisted with running on the street or on a treadmill (I do both).

Little backstory: I started running about 2 years ago to strengthen my flat feet in my Vivobarefoots, but since June 2025 I really started to enjoy it and began training seriously with friends. One thing I noticed: I was always slower than them, which makes sense because Vivo shoes require more force. However, I also started feeling that my feet were overworked from being constantly barefoot on pavement. So, I decided to try the Altra Torin 8. My reasons were twofold: I wanted to be faster, and I wanted to see if my feet could get some rest. Indeed, my feet felt more rested—less pain, stiffness, and general fatigue—but my arches and calves still hurt a lot when running. Calf pain eventually eases around kilometer 8, but my arches never fully recover. So my question is, should I try regular running shoes, or look into alternatives like Topo? Little thing to add: Ive ben walking barefoot fully for 1.5 years, so I don't know how my feet will react in a small toe box, maybe some people have experiences with it

If you want less cushion, try the altra torin 8, they have wide toe box which adds a lot of comfort to the normal amount of cushion, I personally really like them but I can’t use them for long runs because of my knees

Torin 8 Wide or Paradigm 8 Wide for sure!

Altra in an 8 WIDE size, likely torin 8 best for ya...

Over the last few years I've found that i lean towards: * 0-6mm drop shoes * lower stack shoes * not a fan of aggressive arch support (topo... 🙄) * wide toe box, I don't have particularly big wide feet but I don't want my toes to be crammed Now I'm spoilt for choice with trail runners that hit those above criteria, but week to week I have to do a lot of road miles too. Can anyone here give me a daily road shoe recommendation? I have Altra Escalante Racers, which are a cool shoe but a bit of a niche weapon, they don't feel great at lower speeds. And the Topo Cyclone 2, these are great fun but again don't really suit daily miles, they are more of a workout or race shoe for me. I want a daily shoe that's a bit more versatile. I think that I'm kind of done with Altra, they have a few shoes that are great but often I just find them a bit meh... I've tried Torins for road and found them to be very dull. I used to use the Kinvara 13 as my daily trainer but the lack of wide toebox puts me off. I get on with zero drop but find some drop to be useful for road running, especially as mileage increases. I don't want a road shoe with excessively high stack as I find that encourages sloppier form when I get tired. I've shortlisted: * Inov8 Roadfly - these look like they tick a lot of boxes, the only thing that puts me off is that one reviewer noted that they are actually 9mm drop not 6mm (RunRepeat) and not ideal for forefoot strikers * Saucony Kinvara 15 - apparently back on form after the 14, but lack the wider toebox that I'm used to * Karhu Ikoni - similarly tick a lot of boxes and looks versatile but I'm not familiar with footshape and sizing * Karhu Fusion - same as above Any other ideas to put on my list? Or good experiences with a road shoe option?

Yeah I really like the Escalante Racers and ages back I had the super minimal Vanish XC shoes, both proper back to basics runners. The Torins (7?) aren't too bad in fairness, I just never pick them over other shoes I find them a bit heavy and uninspiring, the fit is sloppy on me too but I probably bought too big. I have Outroads too which I like for mixed surface stuff they are underrated but a bit hot and heavy. I guess I'd definitely consider the new Escalante but part of me thinks that they are too similar to the Racers that I already have. Right now this moment I'm leaning towards Karhu Fusion 4 - they just seem to tick the most boxes for me and a good middle ground of everything.

Glad that I'm not the only one, ueah recently I've been doing a lot of slower road miles in an older pair of Altra Outroads. They are fine just a bit heavy and overkill for a lot of roads.

Get a fitting at a running store. I have had good luck with Altra Torins and I usually buy mens vs womens.