Magic Speed 3

I agree with you. I still have a pair of MS3 (45km on it) that I am saving for track/treadmill sessions. I bring it out once in a while to re-live the magic lol, but really I'm waiting for summer until I can let it rip around the track

Hello I can’t seem to find a nice and slightly durable (probably can last 600k? or 1-2 seasons of workouts) shoe for longer track workouts. This pair will be used for the long tempos (3:45/k), intervals, and reps down to 5K pace at around 3:00-3:05/k. It doesn’t need to have a plate but I hope for some kind of pep in step and bounce with some firmness for the faster reps. I have tried these shoes: 1. ⁠Nike Vaporfly 2 - Firm and nice cushioning. I really like these but the shoe falls apart really easily in my humid country. Rain shreds the sides of the midsole. 2. ⁠Nike Vaporfly 3 - Same as VF2 but softer cushioning. I really prefer this shoe for my workouts but the shoe fails really easy. 3. ⁠Asics Magic Speed 3 - Felt overly firm (which I don’t really enjoy) but fast reps feel nice. 4. ⁠Li-Ning Feidian 5 Challenger - Slightly better than the Magic Speed 3 in terms of cushioning but hoped for more cushion underfoot. 5. ⁠Dynafish Xiaonian - Perhaps got a wrong size because my foot was swimming in the upper even when I got 1/2 size down. Difficult to go fast in the really soft foam. 6. ⁠Xtep 160X 3.5 Pro - Probably got the wrong size as it was really tight. Really nice and responsive but didn’t have any allowance for slower reps. (Basically the same as a Nike Streakfly but thick and bouncy. Becomes quite blocky on bad days.) 7. ⁠Endorphin Speed 1/2: Really nice shoe for tempo and faster stuff back in the day but the new versions (v3 and v4) seems lacking. 8. ⁠Adidas Takumi Sen 10: Nice as a trainer but the shoe feels bottom heavy for some reason. 9. ⁠Qiaodan Plaid 1.5: Nice and cushioned for the longer tempos and slower intervals. Becomes chunky and blocky and difficult to run with at faster paces. 10. ⁠Nike Streakfly 2: Really good for shorter reps. Light and fast. Cushioning abit lacking on longer reps. Durability is not really good. I’m thinking of using the Streakfly 2 for faster paces (5K and under) but I cannot find something that I like for broken up tempos/thresholds and longer tempo work at 5K pace and up. Are there any shoes that are worth trying out in the current market? Or are there any shoe that you have tried that you are satisfied from faster workouts? Thanks!

Hmm… your comment on the TS11 seems really different from others. I hear the TS11 being soft and not really something that they would use for a workout. Those comments really pushed me away from trying a pair of TS11.

Absolutely go half US/UK up, I am 45EU in all ASICS (Nova,Mega,Super,Dyna) and 46 in Noosa and I still regret not taking 46.5. You can also check the Magic Speed 3, they are also simple , lower stack shoes. A lot more rigid and stiffer than the Noosa due to the plate in them, but also much faster and with much more power; for pure speed sessions they are one of the best out there, but not as versatile as the Noosa.

I think this is true for most people, but it hasn’t been true for me. The closest I ever got to a “race” shoe that actually worked for my feet was the magic speed 3 (now worn out). I’ve tried quite a few of the super shoes and my weirdly shaped arches (what little I have, and that due to orthotics as a kid) simply do not work in them. The megablast, however, have been a godsend. They’re not nearly as peppy as any carbon plated shoe I’ve tried, but they do want to go fast and they are so unbelievably comfortable on my feet. Btw, I am probably going to try the Magic Speed 5, soon. I tried the 4 and while they fit, I hated them. All that to say: SB3 and MB are my 2 shoe rotation and have been awesome for me. They are similar, but the SB3 is a little better for long runs at zone 2-3 effort.

I have the exact same flat feet issue you’re describing in those shoes. Long term, perhaps you have some strength and balance issues to work on, too. But if you’re looking for a shoe that is sort of midway between a super shoe and your Kayanos, maybe the Megablast (or possibly Sonicblast) might be a good first step? You get surprisingly reasonable energy return in the Megablast (not as much as a carbon plated shoe) and they are not -quite- as stable as the Superblast 2 (I look forward to trying the SB3), but they are super comfy for me, love to go fast, and are far, far more forgiving than a super shoe. You might give them a try! They’re really a marvel. I’ve put about 900 miles on mine and am on my third pair. I, too, have flat feet and the only carbon plated shoe i’ve had success in is the Magic Speed 3 (and max HM distance). I have not yet tried the MS5, but I can say the MS4 was horrible for me. Both Edge and Sky were completely unusable for me due because of the lack of a medial support wall (MS3 had just enough). My flat foot just squished the side of the shoe and neither tokyo or paris (edge or sky) had a prayer of working for me. I’m probably going to try the magic speed 5 though. Best of luck and I feel your pain.

This is me, too. Neither Metaspeed pair work but the Magic Speed does. Maybe it’s just for the flat feet of the world. I’m still looking for the true super shoe for my feet.

True but I think they're worth it. I miss Magic speed 3 too... That was my entry into carbon plates same price point. Just buy them!