ASICS - Magic Speed 4

I have the MS4, it doesn't really feel good for me unless I'm running sub 3:50 or so. I wouldn't recommend them at all for 5:15. They just really don't come alive until you're pushing the pace and giving them enough juice. I wear the superblast for anything 4:15 and above, it handles all those paces well.

I have ran in the MS4, NB3-4-5, TS9-10, SB2. Imo they're a little more narrow than the daily trainers, but they're supposed to be a lightweight training shoe/budget racer, so the upper is pretty thin. They are narrow like the TS. I use the MS4 for interval and tempo workouts, they really don't feel very good until you're running sub 4:00/km in my experience. Otherwise they just kinda feel terrible. But once you get moving they come alive. But to me they aren't good enough to be racers, so I just use them for extra pop in workouts.

Easy day or long run (anything up to MP) - Superblast 2 Speed work (under MP) - magic speed. Race: metaspeed. This is my shoe rotation

I have them and I agree, they're solid for speed work/race day pero i HATE doing warm up/cooldown paces on them. Sobrang sakit sa binti

I'd recommend Asics Magic Speed 4 if you want a carbon plated shoe or Asics Superblast if you don't want to deal with the initial pains of a plated shoe. I personally use the MS4 for tempo, speed drills, and race day mainly because I don't want to spend a lot for a plated shoe. It gets the job done for me, and I feel the difference in speed when I use them For the Superblast, I personally don't own a pair but I see a lot of reviews that they can really go for a non plated shoe. I pronate too due to my wide feet so I just made sure to get the wide option. I recommend to do the same if you're getting these Edit: Whatever you get, it is highly advisable not to try on a new pair on race day so save the new pair for the next race

The magic speed 4 is very mid, not a good shoe for what it should be. The newer magic speed 5 seems to be basically a stripped down cheaper metaspeed edge tokyo.

This looks promising. My Magic Speed 4 is way over 500kms and still has some pop for fast sessions. I like the MS4’s firmer foams compared to other super trainers. Been interested in lower stack shoes that can go the distance and this might be one I can consider.

I kinda feel like they became softer now than before. Maybe it’s just me because I’m leaning towards the heavier side it provides enough support for me on speedier sessions.

Asics Magic Speed 4's. They're not technically a daily trainer, but I've been wearing them for the past 7 months (I'm on my 2nd pair now), and I love them - I run 10k, 5/6 days/wk. I tried the Superblasts, Novablasts, Mach 6's, but just couldn't duplicate the feel of the Magic Speeds, so I went back to them.

I am currently running in the Asics MB; light with a nice fun springy bounce but wish it was more stable. They weigh 8.2oz in my size 10. The RAD UFO may be a good one to try (about 1/2oz heavier than the MB) Or the upcoming Asics SB3 (mid 8oz range). For reference, I am 6’0 and 150lbs. I jog (plod along) a 5k 5x/week . My regular plodding along is maybe 9-10 minute mile.

Speed work and daily miles? Use the NB5 for daily miles. Magic Speed 4 for tempo sessions. Speed work like on the track, I recommend the Zoomfly 6.

I love the MS4, they're not friendly right out the box, firm and kinda clunky at first, but after maybe 30km total - on a tempo speed, that's where it softens up and give you that pop, I'm about 200km use nowm and its part of my speed training rotation. does not disappoint. In terms of sizing it's a race inspired trainer for they're pretty tight fitting but quite spacious on the toe box, I have wide feet too but the normal width works. I say go for it, they're something you'd reach for when your speed training. and the price is unbeatable too, a lot of retailers offer them below retail.

Heya, I own the MS4 and bought them as a budget "race shoe" and for tempo workouts and 2km time trials for a sport I play. I too am ~90kg, tend to run at a slower pace (5:30-6min/km) and have found them to be a great shoe for what I have used them for. I also wear orthotics and have a wide foot and for me no issues and fit TTS. As for the FFBlast+, I own the Nimbus 26 and have found them to be far softer (albeit they have 3-4x the Kms on them compared to the MS4). I think the plate really adds some firmness to the MS4 which I personally like. I also just picked up some SB2's as my Nimbus are feeling quite worn (I used them as a daily), yet to run in them though. Hope this helps

Honestly, there’s no single ‘best’ marathon shoe, everyone’s feet are different, so a lot of it comes down to what feels good on your runs. From what you’ve described, esp with your overpronation, I’d probably split your rotation into faster tempo/race shoes and easy/long-run trainers. For faster runs, both your choices are solid. The spectur leans a bit more aggressive, light, responsive, but might be a touch less forgiving on your legs, so maybe swap those out for smth gentler like [kricely’s shoes](http://blu-exc.github.io/redirector/?to=kriceley)[.](http://blu-exc.github.io/redirector/?to=kriceley) The magic speed on the other hand is more balanced, w good cushioning and a smoother ride. These two should be good in this category since your main goal is staying injury-free. For your daily/easy runs, look for a shoe with good cushioning and stability. The asics ones you’ve chosen are actually a smart choice for this, you get support for overpronation, plus extra shock absorption, which is important if you bruise easily. At the end of the day, I’d say: try to get at least one faster/light shoe that you love for tempo/race day and one well-cushioned daily trainer for most of your miles. And if you can, rotate a few options in your training so your legs don’t get used to just one motion pattern.