ASICS - MAGIC SPEED 4 WIDE

This looks promising. My Magic Speed 4 is way over 500kms and still has some pop for fast sessions. I like the MS4’s firmer foams compared to other super trainers. Been interested in lower stack shoes that can go the distance and this might be one I can consider.

I kinda feel like they became softer now than before. Maybe it’s just me because I’m leaning towards the heavier side it provides enough support for me on speedier sessions.

Asics Magic Speed 4's. They're not technically a daily trainer, but I've been wearing them for the past 7 months (I'm on my 2nd pair now), and I love them - I run 10k, 5/6 days/wk. I tried the Superblasts, Novablasts, Mach 6's, but just couldn't duplicate the feel of the Magic Speeds, so I went back to them.

I am currently running in the Asics MB; light with a nice fun springy bounce but wish it was more stable. They weigh 8.2oz in my size 10. The RAD UFO may be a good one to try (about 1/2oz heavier than the MB) Or the upcoming Asics SB3 (mid 8oz range). For reference, I am 6’0 and 150lbs. I jog (plod along) a 5k 5x/week . My regular plodding along is maybe 9-10 minute mile.

Speed work and daily miles? Use the NB5 for daily miles. Magic Speed 4 for tempo sessions. Speed work like on the track, I recommend the Zoomfly 6.

I love the MS4, they're not friendly right out the box, firm and kinda clunky at first, but after maybe 30km total - on a tempo speed, that's where it softens up and give you that pop, I'm about 200km use nowm and its part of my speed training rotation. does not disappoint. In terms of sizing it's a race inspired trainer for they're pretty tight fitting but quite spacious on the toe box, I have wide feet too but the normal width works. I say go for it, they're something you'd reach for when your speed training. and the price is unbeatable too, a lot of retailers offer them below retail.

Heya, I own the MS4 and bought them as a budget "race shoe" and for tempo workouts and 2km time trials for a sport I play. I too am ~90kg, tend to run at a slower pace (5:30-6min/km) and have found them to be a great shoe for what I have used them for. I also wear orthotics and have a wide foot and for me no issues and fit TTS. As for the FFBlast+, I own the Nimbus 26 and have found them to be far softer (albeit they have 3-4x the Kms on them compared to the MS4). I think the plate really adds some firmness to the MS4 which I personally like. I also just picked up some SB2's as my Nimbus are feeling quite worn (I used them as a daily), yet to run in them though. Hope this helps

Honestly, there’s no single ‘best’ marathon shoe, everyone’s feet are different, so a lot of it comes down to what feels good on your runs. From what you’ve described, esp with your overpronation, I’d probably split your rotation into faster tempo/race shoes and easy/long-run trainers. For faster runs, both your choices are solid. The spectur leans a bit more aggressive, light, responsive, but might be a touch less forgiving on your legs, so maybe swap those out for smth gentler like [kricely’s shoes](http://blu-exc.github.io/redirector/?to=kriceley)[.](http://blu-exc.github.io/redirector/?to=kriceley) The magic speed on the other hand is more balanced, w good cushioning and a smoother ride. These two should be good in this category since your main goal is staying injury-free. For your daily/easy runs, look for a shoe with good cushioning and stability. The asics ones you’ve chosen are actually a smart choice for this, you get support for overpronation, plus extra shock absorption, which is important if you bruise easily. At the end of the day, I’d say: try to get at least one faster/light shoe that you love for tempo/race day and one well-cushioned daily trainer for most of your miles. And if you can, rotate a few options in your training so your legs don’t get used to just one motion pattern.

I'll throw in my 2 cents as well: I agree they're very responsive and I do feel the energy return on tempo runs. The downside is how firm it is. I've almost always got at least a little foot soreness the day after a run in them. Also, I don't have the issue with the narrow heel that u/mkyend mentioned, but I mostly use them on tracks (either 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile circular track) and I feel like they need more insole support because my insole slides inwards with every step on turns. That said, I agree that they feel premium and, other than the insole issue, they feel sturdy like they'll last a while and they did help me PR a half marathon, but when they do wear out I'm going to try a different a tempo/race shoe.

They increased the stack height in the 4. It's now more suited to longer distances.

Our paces and dimensions are quite similar (21:56 5K, 1:43 HM, targetting a 3:29 marathon at 7:55/mi, 6'1" 185 lb) so I feel like I can chime in! For tempo work I've run through the Zoom Fly 6 and New Balance SuperComp Trainer v3s for the last season and it feels like that's the perfect comfort shoe combo for me. I've raced in the Zoom Fly 6 and (beyond some heel stability lacking) they've been brilliant through all paces. I primarily use the Zoom Fly 6 for the interval and track speed work, while I use the SC Trainer v3s for my marathon paces for that extra stability. I think you're good to race in the SB2s for sure, but the Zoom Fly 6 to create a rotation and prevent wearing the shoes out (if budget allows) can be a good idea. I've trained in the Magic Speed 4 for about 50-ish miles and had to return them because of some serious patellar discomfort they give me. Best of luck in your shoe choice!