Magic Speed 4

Edge ~ VF1,2 EP3, DNE4, you can consider AP4;

In my case Sky and AP 4 feel different as a mid/heel foot striker; Sky is to flat, stiff/firm, and AP4 is soft, more natural or even rolling

I have them and I agree, they're solid for speed work/race day pero i HATE doing warm up/cooldown paces on them. Sobrang sakit sa binti

The magic speed 4 is very mid, not a good shoe for what it should be. The newer magic speed 5 seems to be basically a stripped down cheaper metaspeed edge tokyo.

I own the Megablasts, but don't own the SB3. Megablast is a very fast shoe with not the most comfortable upper. In my opinion, it should be viewed as a plateless racer rather than a do-it-all training shoe like the Superblast. The slowest I can comfortably take it is a marathon paced run. Most comfortable pace is HM to 10km pace. I've taken it all the way to 3km pace, and it's surprisingly stable enough to handle even that. But on easy runs, I struggle a lot with it. It's super duper energetic. The ride experience reminds me a lot of the EVO SL in such a way that it is very energetic and will push you to run fast. Only difference is the Megablast is built like a tank.

I may be one of the very few people who loved the Magic Speed 4 hahahaha I’ve always been a high stack guy— always preferred shoes at 40mm heel stack minimum. The Magic Speed 4 was perfect for me because it had the snappiness I wanted on a workout shoe, durability that is better than race shoes, and the high stack height that I was always looking for. Thank you for your detailed review of the Magic Speed 5. It made me realize that the Magic Speed 4 was probably a one-off shoe that won’t be repeated.

If you can still find them, Magic Speed 4. Firm and snappy, and despite being tall, still very much stable.

If you use it as your tempo shoe, it's a beginner-friendly shoe in that regard. It's also a great shoe if you're a forefoot striker or someone who pushes off a lot. I have owned the Magic Speed 4s up to around 300km before selling it. It's a durable shoe that does an ok job as a tempo shoe. It can handle daily training miles but it's an uncomfortable experience. I personally found the midsole foam to be way too firm, and the plate makes it worse.

This looks promising. My Magic Speed 4 is way over 500kms and still has some pop for fast sessions. I like the MS4’s firmer foams compared to other super trainers. Been interested in lower stack shoes that can go the distance and this might be one I can consider.

I kinda feel like they became softer now than before. Maybe it’s just me because I’m leaning towards the heavier side it provides enough support for me on speedier sessions.