METASPEED SKY TOKYO

I have the AP4 and did my first session in the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4 just now. Like em both a lot, AP4 is suuuper soft, Puma also soft but way more stable. They both feel quick, but the Puma felt more stable for a Marathon. The AP4 on tired legs is a killer, the Puma is considered one of the quickest shoes at the moment while still being stable. Also the fit feels better, the AP4 feels like a nailcatcher while on my run today the puma felt like a sock, maybe a lil loose. The Puma is brand new but still "only 250" compared to the metaspeed. Tried the metaspeed and would never use it for marathon, because you gotta have perfect form all the way, maybe because my feet felt "wide" in them eventho they arent really. Thats just my experience so far, in the end i think realisticly i would always go for comfort over "pace" because they are all quick, in the end you rather have less pain for the same time and a shorter recovery. Ran my first HM in evo sl's and did a 1.32, also worked without carbon.

Nahh Megablast/Sky Tokyo You can do all your runs in the Megablast. Sky Tokyo for those marathon/faster paces

6’3 and 99kg. Roughly 1:45-1:50 HM. Personally I like the puma shoes a lot(Deviate Nitro Elite 3 and Fast-R3). The latter does put a lot of stress on the calves and strongly encourages forefoot strikes, but nonetheless still a fun racer. Adidas pro4 feels good, but I (and many others that weighs less) have snapped the energy rods, and I don’t want to risk that happening again during a race. The new asics lineup is great(Ray and sky Tokyo) but based on their rubber coverage I’m concerned about their durability, especially my weight does wear out shoes faster than others. Otherwise some of the lightest racers out there, and since you have the Superblasts(I own two pairs and hate), there should be less fit risks within the same brand

Similar profile! 189cm and 95kg at the moment. SB2 was a brick for me. It didn’t give me any discomfort, but also didn’t make my legs feel fresh either. I was hoping SB3 would be different because I like the Megablast and the FF Leap in Metaspeed Sky Tokyo. It’s on its way already so your post is very helpful for me to calibrate expectations! I guess I will figure out soon. But based on what people are saying it seems SB3 is just not built for us bigger runners. I might as well get another pair of megablasts instead.

I bought a pair of ASICS Sky Tokyo this week as they were quite heavily reduced, but the more reading I've done the more I'm leaning towards the Endorphin Pro 4 for the marathon I'm training for. Think it might be a safer bet from a stability point of view and its also a great price atm.

I currently use the Triumph 21s and after lots of looking I've have just bought a pair of the Vomero Plus to give a go. Tried a few asics variants but I just couldn't get one to fit my foot shape (v high arch). Curios as to what shoe you use for your faster paces you mentioned? I bought a pair of sky tokyos as they were a good price, but now leaning towards the Saucony Endorphion Pro 4, think they would be better for me stability wise and maybe a safer bet over the asics.

Fairly consistent though not perfect. I have SB2, Novablast 4, Sky Tokyo, Megablast, Trabuco Max 3, and Fujispeed 3 all in US men's 12, and Magic Speed 3 in 12.5. They are mostly about the same on length except the Trabuco Max is maybe ¼ size short relative to the others. Width/fit varies somewhat more. Novablast 4 is a bit lower volume. Magic Speed 3 is significantly more tapered which is why I sized up. Megablast may be a bit more tapered in the toe, or maybe it's just that the upper material used for it and the Magic Speed 3 use that Motion Wrap engineered mesh material that has absolutely no stretch whatsoever. I've seen a fair number of runners complaining that the Megablast fits a bit narrow on either or both sides of the toebox. Interestingly, to me at least, the Sky Tokyo has the roomiest forefoot of all of my Asics shoes, which one might not expect. It also uses a very light plasticky rigid material but just seems to have more room to me. Of all my Asics shoes the SB2 is the most comfortable and best fitting. It is very light for such a big tall shoe, and works well for me as a tempo shoe, but many people find it just too big on foot for such runs. If you're trying on shoes I'd definitely get it on foot though. It is by far my all-time favorite shoe.

I ran my first in 3:39 last October in Megablasts and was happy with them. I wanted a pair of carbons for my second and my attempt at sub 3:25 this March… tried the Metaspeed Tokyos for a tempo run and I was SO sore the following days (which is unusual for me). I figured I wasn’t strong enough for them. Got a pair of NB Supercomp Elite 5. Did a few workouts in them prior to the marathon to make sure, then ran a 3:24! I love them. I don’t think they’re as fast as other carbons, but I felt like they gave me the support I needed as a new-ish long distance runner. Long story short, try them out and see what works for you! Fleet feet has a great return policy.

with the metaspeed sky tokyo you would probably have done a better time