Ghost 5

2 pairs of Brooks Ghost 17 (started with Brooks Ghost 5) for outdoor runs. I also have a pair of Hokas and run with them 1 day a week, but I really hate it. Legs always feel less stable on landing and tire faster--and my pace is less fast. But, with the Hoka runs, my pace is more consistent. Not sure why. I don't use treadmills, but I do hike and walk a lot, and I love walking in the Hokas. Brooks are only for running.

How about Brooks Ghost or Saucony Ride? Both are about 7mm more than the Kinvara, so that probably qualifies as "a bit more" that you are looking for. These classics are going strong and are on their 17th and 18th iteration for a reason. I think this subreddit is so focused on the latest trends that commenters forget that these classics continue to exist and sell in huge numbers for a reason. Also, I'm not sure if you want low stack or firm - it's not necessarily the same thing! For example, On Cloudmonster 2 is higher stack but much more firm than the aforementioned Ghost and Ride.

Brooks Ghost baby. They’re the most normal shoe I could find for the same reason, and they are consistently comfortable for me.

I usually purchase the ones I know fit me off vinted, only if they are very minimally worn though. People buy things, do a couple of runs and realise they are wrong. Or old models off sport shoes.com… again, if I know I like that one and what size. I’ve never paid £150. My last road shoes (Brookes ghost) were approx £30.