Glycerin 22

I’m trying to figure out what shoes work for me. I’m (M, 29, 5’11, ~180) doing some general training. I’m mainly working toward a marathon in Feb but I will occasionally impulse sign up for shorter races/trail races.. My current main shoe is the Glycerin 22’s but I have knee pain after 8-10 miles every time. I retired the stealthfits after ~500 miles and don’t remember having issues. I recently bought the endorphin speed 5’s bc I thought I wanted some go-fasters..only going to wear them for speed work (<5k) bc I’m old now and need more cushion I guess. And I wear the zegamas on the trails. I mostly strike on the outside of my heel. Maybe I just have bad form? I want to start ramping up mileage, currently at 25-30 per week, but this knee pain will become an issue. Is there a shoe yall would recommend? Maybe with a smaller drop? Or a way I can find a good 20+ mile shoe without spending a thousand bucks? THANKS

Good call. I was doing more strength stuff back then. The weird thing for me was the stealthfit and the 22’s are basically the same shoe so I was confused!

Have you tried any Altras or Topos? I’ve been buying the same Altra Torin 5s in leather for 4 years now because I can’t find a decent pair of shoes. My knees hurt, my back hurts, I’m getting blisters under my big toe. I had an experience recently trying on a pair of Cloudboom Max that actually made my toes start going numb within a minute of wearing them. Love the cushioning and firmness of the plate though. It’s a shame they’re so damn tight. I was considering trying the Mount to Coast R1 because everyone claims it’s wide, but we’ll see. My feet are rectangles that are 4” across. I will try to find a running store with the Endorphin and Glycerin Max. I tried the non-GTS (I hate GTS models, the guiderails hurt) version of the Glycerin 22 and like the upper, albeit they run super small. I had to size up to a women’s 9.5 when I’m an 8 usually.

The Glycerin is a great do-it-all shoe for someone who isn't terribly serious (and not a bad shoe for someone who is). The Glycerin is a bit heavier than your current shoe, but more plush. You won't break speed records but you'll enjoy the ride. They're definitely worth a go.

If I recorded myself at that speed, I think I'd look just about the same as you - including the feet pointing outwards. I wore stability shoes for over a decade until I decided to try neutral shoes, and I've found that they work for me. You should give shoes that have some stability components (or "stable neutral") a try. In your case, I would try the regular Glycerin. If you find you're able to run in neutral shoes, it opens up >95% of the shoe market

Nike structure wide Brooks glycerin wide or extra wide If you’re into trail running Altra lone peaks These are my favorite as someone that’s a 9.5 women wide.

Honestly it is impossible to answer this question for you. Everyone's feet are so wildly different. Main thing to do is to go to a proper running store that has all the good shoes of all the good brands and just try them on. You will immediately be able to rule out a lot of shoes just by the initial feel. Some stores will have a thing you can stand on to analyze the pressure on your feet and recommend shoes for you. Once you narrow it down to the ones that feel right, one of your decisions is mostly going to be how much cushion you want. And again, that's a pretty personal preference thing that won't matter that much to a beginner. In general, shoes with more cushion end up being bulkier and heavier (duh), so they're better for lower intensity long runs with lots of steps, where the cushion makes a difference. Shoes designed to run as fast as possible will often have less cushion to be lighter and not have you sink so much into each step. But even then, what is best for you depends a lot on your body's running mechanics. Anyway, as a beginner, you won't really be running super far OR super fast, so it really will mostly just be what is most comfortable to you in terms of cushion. By the time you've worn those shoes out in a year or so of running/walking 4-5 days a week, you will know enough about yourself to know what you want in a shoe. Personally, I started off with New Balance 880s because the new balance store had the foot analyzer thinger and I tried them, and they felt the best. They're also a middle of the road, everyday trainer type shoe with a medium amount of cushion, so very versatile. But after running in those for a year and getting a lot faster and running a lot farther, I started to realize what I didn't love about them. They'd rub me in a few places, they'd feel a bi too loose or too tight around the top lace sometimes, etc., and I struggled to get them to feel right when lacing up. And I wanted slightly more cushion. After about a year of running about 20Km per week, they were starting to feel flat, too. So I went to a running store with all the brands and settled on Brooks Glycerin 22s. They didn't have the issue with the uneven tightness of the upper to me. I didn't have to do a runners lock knot. They were a bit cushier. Ran in those for almost a year, then had my first half marathon coming up and figured the Brooks would be too worn out by the time that happened, so I went back to the running store to get a new pair so I'd have a fresher pair for the race. But I still tried on different shoes again. And as much as I liked the Brooks, and almost bought another pair, I tried on the Mizuno Wave Cloud 8s, which happened to be on sale, and which further showed me that there was still room for improvement. They felt just as cushy as the Brooks, but with just a BIT more firmness in the heel that felt more "right" to me than the brooks, lol. So trust me, you'll figure it out. And your feet might even change shape over years of running, so never feel bad trying different shoes.

I usually love my Hoka Clifton, but tried Brooks Glycerin 22. I’m happy with them so far!

I’m a big fan of Nimbus (I currently have the 26 though) and just retired my Glycerin 22 today for a pair of ASICS Megablast. I will say personally I was not a fan of the Glycerin. I’ve been running with Ghosts (my go to for faster 3-5 mile runs) for years and was told Glycerine was like the perfect hybrid of the Ghost Max and Nimbus (which has been my go to for more relaxed long distance runs). After running in the Glycerins my toes and knees always felt beat up. Idk if it’s the toe box but my left foot, middle toe kept chaffing to the point of blisters the last couple of weeks which I’ve never experienced before. All of that said, my personal preference is still Ghost for shorter runners and Nimbus for long runs. Nimbus is less responsive but super comfy for high mileage days.