Brooks - Glycerin GTS 22

What about the new Revel Max? They may work. Also the Ghost Max work. I have the Glycerin GTS 22's in the same color, actually. Have you tried the shoes with the original insoles?

I went to feet fleet as a totally new runner and they suggested a stability shoe. I went with the glycerin GTS and while they are super, super comfortable, after about 7 weeks I thought they were just too soft and cushy. My feet were always sore. Went to a very active and independent running shop to get fitted again and I now am running in the Ghost 16s which I love so much more. I had nothing to compare the glycerins to so I didn’t really know what to expect but I prefer a shoe with less cushion.

I only have two. Easy/recovery: Brooks Glycerin 22 GTS Tempo/workout/long run: asics Superblast 2 I think I’ll be using the superblast for my upcoming races too

My local running store told me I overpronate and said the Brooks Glycerin GTS 22 was one of the better options for me. I used them for about a week and they gave me a wicked blister on the inside of my heel. I exchanged them for a Brooks Ghost 17 (which I think is a neutral shoe) and have been so much happier. Just my personal experience

Another vote for glycerine gts 22!!!

For races: nb sc elites; for training; nb sc trainers or brooks glycerine gts

Brooks Hyperion max 2’s. My go to race shoe. Or, glycerine gts for shorter runs. I have a size 14 wide foot and they fit great.

I have no advice, but I know how you feel and can commiserate with you. I owned 4 pair of the glycerine gts 21s. I put 300-400 miles on all of them. Got a pair of 22s, and they are trash. They feel really cheap to me. I lost 2 toenails from them just testing them out of shorter runs. I did start tying them with a heel lock and it has helped. I am not happy with them at all, but haven’t really found anything else that’s any better.

Seconding the glycerin GTS 22s! Super stable and also quite fun to run in

Oof. Brooks adrenaline is not a fun shoe. Saucony Tempus and Puma Forever Run are both good. Asics GT2000 14 has updated foam (compared to previous versions) and it’s also a considerably more responsive option. As stability shoes go, those are your best options for something responsive. There are other options that still considerably better than the adrenaline (but not as lively as the first three): Glycerin GTS 22, Saucony Guide 17 or 18, Hoka Arahi 8, Topo Aura, and Asics Kayano if you like a mountain of cushion. There are tons of shoes out there in the “stable neutral” category - which can work very well if you don’t have significant overpronation. These are shoes that are inherently stable and provide a good deal of support without explicitly providing medial/pronation control. They typically have a very wide base, heel bevels that guide the foot and a pretty stiff heel cup/collar. The Doctors of Running have a lot of info on this topic. Insoles in any old shoes you like could also work well (although if you truly need stability, I’d steer away from massively high stacked shoes with very soft foam and no stabilizing elements). But honestly-the adrenaline 24 is about the most boring shoe out there. And although Brooks replaced/updated the foam in every other model they make with the newest models, the adrenaline 25 still has the exact same foam from like 1999. Committed to boring mediocrity and riding the name reputation like the Pegasus.

Wow. Thats a relic and a half. 8-12mm is a fairly negligible difference. 12 to 6 is much more noticeable and Fresh foam from 15 years ago was a virtual brick compared to most foams on the market now. So the softer foam, the lower drop and really, shoes have a whole new engineering with rockers and things. I don’t think you need to stay with a 12mm drop. But maybe cutting it in half in one go, while changing to modern foam and shoe geometry may have been a little more than you were ready for after 15 years of 1225. The 1225 was the stability version of the 1080 (I think). The current stability version of the 1080 is the Vongo. So you may want to give that a shot. I think they are on version 6? Maybe 7? Unless it’s been discontinued. If that is too soft, you may want to try the 860. That’s also a stability option, but has less cushion. Heading outside of New Balance, ASICS Kayano and GT2000 are their tried and true stability options (GT 2000 will be more firm, Kayano more plush). Saucony has the Hurricane, Guide and the Tempus. The Guide is the regular stability daily trainer. The Hurricane is a higher cushion stability shoe with some super foam. The Tempus is a stability shoe with only super foam. It’s really a nice shoe. I’m not positive on the drop, but Adidas Supernova Solution would likely work as well. Any Brooks shoe that has “GTS” in the name is a stability shoe. If you can find a Launch GTS, that may be a very close match to the 1225 (it’s pretty firm with a high drop). The Adrenaline is their every day daily trainer stability shoe. And the Glycerin GTS is the higher cushion option. If you want something a little more fun, a little faster or more racy, the Hyperion 2 GTS could work. It’s not as firm as some, but it’s super foam (or at least some). Puma Forever Run Nitro is yet another option that could work. I’m not sure the drop again, but it’s a good shoe and a good ride (and it’s got stability). I would start with those and see what you can find and if any of those even feel agreeable to your feet (in terms of firmness, fit, etc.). You really should be able to go down to an 8-10 drop without a huge issue (again-barring all of the other enormous changes in shoes since you stockpiled your 1225’s).

I've run in each shoe over many years. Whether it's Hurricane, 860, or Kayano, they employ similar features to reduce pronation and to improve alignment. A wide straight last platform, raised sidewalls, firmer foam, wedges, beveling, and rigid designs work together to reduce pronation and torsion. It's the degree of stability and ride quality that differ between the three. The Kayano 32 is a beast. It's noticeably firmer and stiff. It provides maximum stability and protection. It can be used day in and day out for slow basic training. It's a durable tank of a shoe. The tradeoff is a heavy, clunky, and plodding ride. The 860 has a softer feel and is less invasive. The support feels more natural and the ride is more forgiving. It uses geometry and a thin plastic film to improve stability and return energy, which gets cancelled out by the heavy weight and feel. It's not as durable as Kayano. I like the Vongo v6, but it isn't as stable or cushioned as 860. Saucony Hurricane 24 offers mild stability and a highly cushioned ride. It's the least restrictive of the three. Saucony reintroduced this model and designed it to be a plush max cushioned trainer. The weight and bulky/clunky ride held this version back. I currently run in Saucony Hurricane 25. At least for me, Saucony solved the weight and ride problems of the previous version. It's still a big shoe, but the ride is noticeably lighter and energetic. I'm hard on shoes and so far I can't put a dent in them. My Kayano 32s are retired from running. I use them as a work, gym, or walking shoe. I also recommend checking out Brooks Glycerin GTS 22. It strikes a good balance between stability and cushioning. The ride is smooth and there is a slight pop coming from the DNA tuned midsole. It's currently on discount as Brooks ushers in the 23s.

I've lost track of how many versions of the Kayanos that I've run in. The 32s aren't what I hoped they would be. While the lower 8 mm drop is a step in the right direction, the heel still feels stiff and gets in my way. The ride is slightly softer and smoother than my 31s, but not enough to bring the performance to the next level. Brooks Glycerin GTS 22 worked out well for me this year. The updated DNA tuned midsole is smoother and there is a slight bounce at toe off. The ride isn't nearly as stiff and clunky as Kayano. I ran a hilly half marathon with them in March. They were great for descending the steep downhill sections of road with broken pavement. Saucony Tempus 2 is a lightweight performance stability shoe that combines some superfoam with an efficient rocker. You can really feel the difference in performance. Set PRs in these. Next week, Asics is going to drop the GT 2000 14 that appears to be a direct competitor. Asics updated the midsole with FF Max Blast and added a Novablast like trampoline pod in the forefoot. It's light and nimble.

Having run in stability models across major brands, New Balance (860v14, Vongo V6), Saucony (Guide 17, Tempus 2), Asics (Kayano 32, GT 2000 13), and Brooks (Adrenaline GTS 24, Glycerin GTS 22), I can say New Balance's Fresh Foam with embedded stability planes offers a distinctly plush experience.The 860 and Vongo are the plushest stability shoes I've run in, with the Vongo delivering a ride similar to the neutral 1080 v14 but with added stability. Since you're loving the 860, I'd skip the Kayano 32. It's rigid, firm, and clunky by comparison. The GT 2000 series could work as they're lighter, smoother, and softer than the Kayano. Saucony's Guides run smooth and light but feel firm and unresponsive. The Tempus is their stability supershoe It's lightweight with a firm, energetic ride and efficient rocker that makes it ideal for performance running. If you want a stability shoe that can double as a racing shoe, this is it. Brooks' Adrenalines are extremely firm, while the Glycerin GTS offers a solid middle ground with superior comfort, cushioning, and smoothness. For plush stability similar to what you're enjoying, stick with New Balance's Fresh Foam platform or consider the Glycerin GTS for a different but comfortable experience.

I have a history of posterior tib tendonitis and rotate many of the stability models mentioned in the comments. If you didn't get along well with Kayano 31, you probably won't like the 32s. I have both pairs and they are generous in the toe box and midfoot. Asics GT 2000 14 and Saucony Tempus 2 (which is being discontinued) are lighter performance models. Both shoes are narrower than Kayano 31. Asics incorporates a forefoot trampoline pod and Flytefoam Blast Max, while Saucony packs some of their Pebax foam and a rocker bottom into the midsole. Their rides are noticeably lighter and more energetic than Kayano. I hit a couple of PRs running in Tempus. It's the most efficient stability shoe I've run in. I also have a pair of Saucony Hurricane 25. It's a great daily max cushion trainer. Brooks Glycerin GTS 22 is similar. I stopped running in Adrenalines because they're stiff clunkers. I've run in New Balance 860 v14 and Vongo v6. Both fit narrow. A stability plane runs through the midsole and works with the geometry to achieve stability. The ride is soft and smooth. Despite a subtle bounce, they feel heavy and bulky. IMO the Goldilocks performance shoe is Saucony Tempus 2, the daily trainer is Saucony Hurricane 25.

Stability shoes tend to be firmer by design to help manage overpronation. That said, the Gaviotas and Adrenalines are among the firmer and stiffer options out there. I rotate a few stability models, and my current favorite is the Brooks Glycerin GTS 22. Like the Gaviota, it’s a high stacked shoe, but it feels noticeably lighter underfoot. The updated DNA tuned midsole offers a softer, more responsive ride with better bounce. They're also more comfortable overall. I even used them to race a half marathon back in March.

My favorite non race shoe is the Asics Superblast 2. It's an incredible blend of comfort, bounce, and versatility; though the price can be a barrier. Comfort and stability matter most to me. In that regard, the Brooks Glycerin GTS 22s are my more practical go to. They check all the right boxes for everyday training.

Fair take. Like most Brooks daily trainers, the Glycerins do lean toward the boring side in terms of ride feel. But the DNA tuned midsole adds a bit more bounce and softness to this version. For me, they’re incredibly comfortable, reliable, and disappear on my foot once I start running. Exactly what I want for daily miles.

Fellow overpronator here. I've run in just about every stability model on the market, including several versions of Arahi and Asics GT. One of my current favs is Brooks Glycerin GTS 22. The DNA tuned midsole is more energetic than Arahi. The higher drop reduces demand on Achilles/calf complex. Problems here contribute to PF. The higher heel also decreases dorsiflexion range needed at footstrike. Typically, overpronators lack dorsiflexion. The high drop also eases tension through the posterior chain into plantar fascia and takes stress off the heel to forefoot tissue stretch. It also doubles as a comfortable walking shoe that can be worn all day. If you have wider feet, wide sizes are available.

Nimbus is similar to Kayano but without the stability features. The wife platform and raised sidewalls help to stabilize the high stack. It's a durable shoe. Every Brooks model I've run in had great build quality except Ghost Max. The glue failed in the heel before 100 miles. The rear of the shoe actually peeled off. Ghost, Glycerin, Adrenaline, and Hyperion are super durable. You may want to check out Saucony Hurricane 25. It's a stability model like Kayano but it's lighter, smoother, more energetic, and has a lower drop. I'm loving mine and so far they're extremely durable.

I agree and second the Glycerins and Superblasts. I have both and they perform as you described. I'd also add Saucony Triumph to the list. It has deep PB superfoam cushioning that isn't too mushy and adds some pop to the ride.

I use the hypeiron 2 GTS and adrenaline GTS 24's for running, and theyre both great and I have 0 complaints. However the go-to daily trainer and easy miles shoe of the two is most definitely the GTS 24. I can do a 30-35 minute 5k in them with little issue, and still feel fine to go walk around the park or store. I have the two shoes ive listed, along with the ghost max's, and have tried the ghost max 2's. There is definitely a difference between the GTS 23 and GTS 24, the 24 is far more cushy and responsive due to the better more advanced midsole. Same goes for the ghost max vs the max 2's, big difference there. When brooks makes a new version of a shoe, theres definitely a good difference. In terms of comparison, i've also used nike, hoka and adidas. In my experience, brooks tend to run the most narrow, but they arent like "ouch this is tight!" narrow. Theyre the most responsive shoes ive tried on, and you can definitely tell they're a company that aims to please. I have Nike infinity run 3's, and adidas ultraboosts that I wear for walking and daily use and the brooks feel lighter and peppier than those by a notable amount. Depending on your weight, pace, etc. I'd reccomend the adrenaline GTS 24's or Glycerin GTS 22's. Those are both great every day trainers that can pick up the pace, with the adrenaline in my opinion being the faster of the two.

I like my brooks glycerin GTS 22’s or adrenaline GTS 24’s for that kind of work. Comfortable and supportive, and feet don’t feel hurt after running 2-3 miles 6/7 days of the week, sometimes longer. To add, a majority of the runs I do with those shoes are either a bit or good bit below those paces for the majority.

I came here to say either the glycerin 22 or puma magmax would be great! The only reason i dont say glycerin max is because I can see the foam stack being too high or compressing tooo much. The glycerin 22 GTS is my go to easy/recovery day shoe and I can hit consistent 10 min/mi paces in them.

Glycerin 22. I have the 22GTS for my daily and recovery day shoes and they help with any tendon/leg pain.