Brooks - Hyperion 2

I can relate to your situation and have been successfully wearing the shoes below. I did a fair amount of research and read reviews to help guide my options. In some cases, I intentionally purchased the prior version of the shoe because it had more cushioning, bounce and weight vs the newer/current model. New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4 - these are my shoes for intervals, tempo runs and races. Absolutely love them and looking to buy another pair. I’ll be wearing them in my upcoming half marathon. Great cushioning, bounce, and super lightweight (6.3 oz). I purchased the v4 after reading a lot of reviews that claimed the v5 wasn’t as cushioned and people preferred the 4. The upper is super breathable and will be great for running in the summer/heat. Brooks Hyperion 2 and Max 2 - both super lightweight and cushioned with good bounce. Reviews have been pretty critical of the v3 in both models which steered me to the 2s. I like them both and use them in rotation with my two New Balance models. The Hyperion model are both speedier than the NB 1080. The non-Max Hyperion 2 is super lightweight and cushioned, but lacks the stack of the Max and NB Rebel, making it great for 400 - 800 intervals sessions. New Balance 1080 v14 - very versatile, cushioned and nice bounce, a little heavier at 8.3 oz. Upper is breathable, but more substantial for winter and cooler weather running vs NB Rebel. I wear these now in rotation with the NB Rebel v4. These feel a little speedier than my old ASICS GT-2000, and are great for peppy long runs.

I am running in Peregrines on trails and for roads I have Brooks Glycerin GTS, Asics Gel Kayano 31, Puma MagMax and Brooks Hyperion 2. All three daily trainers are wider than Peregrines and have more stack but I tend to not overcomplicate my road runs

>I’ve been seeing a lot of people mention the MagMax. Are they one of the best Long/Recovery shoes out there? I haven't really tried the competitors in the category, but the broad view among reviewers and others who have used the MagMax seem to be that it is, and I think it does the job very well. >Also, I see both the Hyperion 2 and the Hyperion Max 2 on sale. Is it worth spending the extra 30 for the Max? Haven't tried the Hyperion Max 2, but they're different shoes. I would not regard one as being a premium version of the other. The Hyperion Max 2 has a higher stack and a plate, whereas the regular Hyperion 2 has a relatively lower stack (33mm in the heel seems to count as "low stack" these days) and no plate. There seem to be basically no bad reviews of the Hyperion 2 out there. The role that people single out for the Hyperion 2 tends to be as an interval trainer, but it tends to get credit for being highly versatile well beyond that one role. (I've taken it on easy runs, long runs, etc. and been satisfied with how it performed on those too.) It's an extremely lightweight, natural, nimble-feeling speed trainer, but it's also a solid shoe to run in if you'd like a firmer shoe that would've been moderate-to-high-stacked prior to the market shifting to dramatically raised stack heights across the board. The Hyperion Max 2 seems to have a fanbase of people who really like it, but it also seems to have received more mixed reviews, and those who like it seem to like it specifically for tempo workouts (i.e. steady state/threshold/progression/marathon pace stuff) and often don't regard it as a versatile shoe beyond that. Also worth noting that the Hyperion 3 and the Hyperion Max 3, which are about to release, both appear to be stark departures from their respective predecessors. The Hyperion 3 appears to be going up in stack height some to try to contend as a mainstream "uptempo daily" style of shoe, similar to the direction the New Balance Rebel v5 appears to be taking. The Hyperion Max 3 is also going up in stack significantly, incorporating PEBA above the plate, and seems to be trying to be a versatile supertrainer style of shoe. It's a weird situation, where neither of the niches filled by the 2 models really seem to be filled by either of the 3 models.

offering someone with a small child and a tight budget the most expensive shoes on the market for 225 euros is really irresponsible, or just the fanaticism of the local Asics sect. Accepting the fact that it is normal to pay 225 euros for a training shoe is pure nonsense. If you don't have a budget problem, then why not, it's everyone's business, I am quite financially secure, but I simply won't buy training shoes for 225 when there are other options - just as good and for much less money.. So now to the question - instead of one shoe for everything, it's better to get 2 shoes for rotation, your feet and the foam of the shoes will rest, and running will be healthier overall. If you want shoes on a reasonable budget, then for speed training the Hyperion 2 from Brooks are great, they are on sale now for under 100 euros, and for everything else, for example the Saucony Azura, both of these shoes will cost you as much as one Megablast..........the decision is of course up to you

i LOVED the hyperion 2 for speedwork. i have the elite 5 now as a race shoe but have yet to run in them this year. i personally would love to own like ten more pairs of hyperion 2s lol

First off... it is not true and not definitely not necessary to have at least 3 pairs of running shoes. Most runners can get by with 1 pair at a time. You can stop reading now if you'd like;) Personally, I tend to keep a ridiculous number of pairs in rotation, but I know I'm being ridiculous and running is my primary exercise and one of my most favorite things. My rotation includes the following: 2x Pairs of road training shoes. Currently I have a pair of Brooks Hyperion 2's and a pair of Speedland RX:FPY's. The Speedland's I have mostly because I want to support the company and their mission and I was keen to try their first road shoe. The reason I always have two pairs is it is wet in Seattle 9+ months a year, I run almost every day, and I don't want to start in wet shoes. I used to use a boot drier, but I found it seemed to accelerate my shoes falling apart. 1x pair of road racing shoes. My current favorites are Nike Vaporfly 3's. Yes, I believe they definitely make me faster at the half marathon and marathon distances in particular. No, you don't need super shoes just to run these distances. The Speedland RX:FPY w/ the carbon plate is good, but not quite as effective for me as the Nike's. That said, I have 500 miles on my Speedland RX:FPY's and the foam still feels good. Vaporfly's are typically trash at under half that distance. 2x pairs of cushiony trail shoes. Currently I'm alternating between two pairs of Speedland GS shoes. I have 2 pairs for the same reason as the road shoes, for swapping when it's wet. It's less about back to back training days (I unfortunately rarely get those on the trail because I live in the city) and more about mid-race swaps in wet ultra distance races. If anyone who reads this is Speedland curious, the carbon plates for these shoes are wonderful for highly technical terrain, but I do think my feet fatigue faster when I use them so for most of my trail running I run plateless. My GS's look like absolute dogshit at this point, but they have zero tearing on the upper, foam still feels good, lugs are worn but still effective, and both pairs are over 600 miles into their life. I have GS:TMT's on pre-order and when they arrive I will start thinking about retiring the old ones. 1x pair of performance trail shoes. GL:SVT's in my case. I got these to try them out and to support Speedland. I love them, but I can't go more than 50k on them without my feet giving me some angry feedback. I'll run these until they are trashed and probably not replace them. I'd be all over a pair of GS's with the same built in gators as the GL:SVT's though. Personally, I don't think I'm fast enough on trail for a super-shoe oriented trail shoe to be a very big unlock.

Glad you asked. I just started running again 6 months ago. We are same height and weight too. I’m 48. My last 10k I ran was also a 54 min effort. Here is my rotation: Fast tempo runs and intervals: Brooks Hyperion 2 and some old Saucony Endorphin Pro 1’s. These are lower stack and lower to the ground and light weight and fast. Perfect for fast efforts under a 10-15k max distance. I’m going to get a pair of the Hoka Mach X2 for this category as well. My everyday runners for most of my regular runs: I have two pairs of Saucony Endorphin Shift 3’s and a pair of TYR Valkyrie Speedworks. I had a pair of Salomon Aero Glide 3’s that fit this category as well. Those were some really fun soft daily trainers—the Salomon’s that is. I’ve got a pair of Adidas SL2’s that will fall into this category on the way from the current Adidas sale that’s going on. For my long runs over 10 miles or for my slower recovery runs: SuperBlast 2 and I had a pair of Brooks Triumph 22’s, but I’m going to be getting a pair of the Hoka Mach X2’s that I will use in this category as well possibly. Also the Puma MagMax Nitro is on my radar. I also just bought a pair of the Adidas Supernova Prima to try for this long run category as well. When I started running 6 months ago I was running in a pair of the Brooks Glycerine 21’s and did every run in them. They were fine for that but once I started adding some different shoes into the mix I started learning the value of having a shoe rotation. Jump on YouTube and find a guy named Yowana. He’s a pretty sharp guy who runs a lot (100+ miles a week) who has a knack for doing good shoe reviews and he’s also interesting to listen to him talk so I suggest finding his channel and checking out some of his shoe reviews. He’s a wealth of running shoe knowledge and experience.

I’m looking for the same things in a road shoe that you are. I wish the Kinvara had a wider toe box. I really like everything else about that shoe. The Hyperion 2 fits really well. To me, it feels like more than 8mm of drop. I did a demo run in the Torin 8. It’s not a bad shoe but feels a little dead and stiff. I didn’t care much for the heel cup either. The Rebel V4 fits weird. It’s too short but has a really wide fit. I put 50 miles in a pair and decided to pass them on to a friend. Kept getting blisters on the end of my toes. It could be a possibility for you. The Mount to Coast R1 caused me severe arch pain. I have high arches so I don’t understand why I was getting pain there. I think I actually liked the Torin 8 better. The Altra FWD Via feels really good in the store. It’s more stack than I want but tempted to give it a go. It’s kind of expensive. I can’t find a Rivera to try on. The Altra Experience Flow might be an option. Everything about the Kinvara feels better though with the exception of the toe box.

If you like the compact firm/harsher ride of Hyperion Tempo 1 then you will probably like Hyperion Max 1, Hyperion 2. Hyperion Max 2 and Hyperion 3 are still harsh but a little easier on the legs. Hyperion Max 3 is very different from the rest. It is a very bulky and cushioned shoe

If you are looking for a tad more cushion and softness then 3 is better. If you like the non bulky ground feel firmness then 2 is what you want. Can’t go wrong with both though

I had ghost 13 and 14s they didn’t change the mid sole on those. Then they changed the designs. I Didn’t like the 15s and 16s (the maxes were terrible). Opted for glycerin 21 and Hyperion 2 and the Cascadia 18 for trail runs. Idk why they change the lines so much? They juat need to make a new line if you change the mid sole that much.