Arahi 8

Wide foot runner. My milage is 40+ miles a week. I normally stick with new balance. I love the rebels for my daily trainer. I will say my favorite wide shoe is the Hoka Mach 6. I use those for races. I just brought the Hoka Arahi’s 8. It’s alright for the purpose I brought the shoe for.

If you're looking for a lightweight stability type shoe, look at the Saucony Tempus. But thats if you NEED a stability shoe. I've run both the Arahi 8 and the Novablast 5. I got the Arahi after getting my foot scanned and being told I needed a stability shoe (I've worn stability shoes almost all my adult/running life). But after digging a bit more, mild pronation doesn't mean you NEED a stability shoe. So while the Arahi 8 did keep my pronation in line, I have been trying out other neutral shoes with built in stability elements (ie medial sidewalls, midsole firmness etc). That lead me to the Novablast...which tl;dr wasn't for me. Too plush/soft underfoot leading me to think it was less than ideal for lateral stability. By all means, get scanned/evaluated at running stores, but I think it's better to know what you're looking for in a shoe and tell them I want X, Y, and Z and see what they offer. Do that at a few stores and see where their recommendations overlap and then try those shoes out. If they feel good underfoot/while running then that's the best shoe for you.

I went to a running store and after they recorded me walk/run on a treadmill told me I needed stability shoes. Took home a pair of Hoka Arhahi 8’s came back a week later with arch pain in my right foot 10-15 minutes into running. Tried a pair of Brooks Ghost 17 and although no archpain, seems to be some pain in the frontal area. 🤷‍♂️

I have Arahi's and they're good but my first choice is a gaviota 5, I felt really comfortable in those but couldn't deal with the way my heel sat in them, felt like i was riding too high and slipping like crazy so has to return them and get the Arahi 8.

Get the Hoka Arahi 8s. Not the 7; it’s a significant upgrade from the 7 to the 8. You’ll run much better. I’ve recently started using them and can already see the difference

I have had good luck with the Hoka Arahi 8. Saucony Guide is also a regular in my rotation. I'm not crazy about the Asics Kayano, but they get recommended a lot. If you're at the store trying on shoes, I'd also try the New Balance 860 and Saucony Hurricane. Not sure how you ended up with those Salomons. Did you tell the sales person you spend a lot of time on rail trails?

Oof. Brooks adrenaline is not a fun shoe. Saucony Tempus and Puma Forever Run are both good. Asics GT2000 14 has updated foam (compared to previous versions) and it’s also a considerably more responsive option. As stability shoes go, those are your best options for something responsive. There are other options that still considerably better than the adrenaline (but not as lively as the first three): Glycerin GTS 22, Saucony Guide 17 or 18, Hoka Arahi 8, Topo Aura, and Asics Kayano if you like a mountain of cushion. There are tons of shoes out there in the “stable neutral” category - which can work very well if you don’t have significant overpronation. These are shoes that are inherently stable and provide a good deal of support without explicitly providing medial/pronation control. They typically have a very wide base, heel bevels that guide the foot and a pretty stiff heel cup/collar. The Doctors of Running have a lot of info on this topic. Insoles in any old shoes you like could also work well (although if you truly need stability, I’d steer away from massively high stacked shoes with very soft foam and no stabilizing elements). But honestly-the adrenaline 24 is about the most boring shoe out there. And although Brooks replaced/updated the foam in every other model they make with the newest models, the adrenaline 25 still has the exact same foam from like 1999. Committed to boring mediocrity and riding the name reputation like the Pegasus.