Bondi X

They made the Bondi X a few years ago. That did have a carbon plate. The regular Bondi does not. And they stopped making the Bondi X because it’s an abomination of a shoe. So you’re not entirely wrong. There was a Bondi with a plate. But it was a terrible shoe.

With novas you gotta and a rotating shoe I rotate mine w hoka bondi I’m a heavy runner too

I wonder if that's my problem with the Hoka Bondi's. They are comfy to walk in but if I wear them all day, my feet get sore.

I have found that a wide toebox helps. I’m mostly recovered and able to run now. I run in Topos for the wide toe box. Altars don’t fit me, but folks love them. I also run in Cliftons. They are not specifically a wide toe box shoe, but it is wide enough for me and the shock absorption is great.

My PF caused bone deterioration on my heel bone. I found out that my perimenopausal self was super low in vit B and therefore not absorbing calcium. I got that sorted, also had surgery with included platelet therapy and therefore thing they do with the grid pattern of needles. They also removed my spur (rip). I wore a boot for about 8 weeks or more. Then Graston started really working for me and hot yoga. I also only lift barefoot now or in barefoot shoes. I am now able to run a piddly 10 miles per week. I find running faster to be easier on my foot.

The bondis are too much for me. The just released Cliftons have a wide toe box. I just demoed them at a running event.

Also- I wear the curex run pro insoles. It adds an annoying extra expense. Curiously, I haven’t been wearing them in my hokas. For reference when I was down bad I couldn’t even walk and would be on the ground crying after attempting to run 10 steps.

From this, personally, I find NB super comfortable, but the foam does 'die' a bit earlier. I think if you're after a versatile trainer, Clifton is meant to be great daily (I have the Bondi for easy/recovery). They're meant to be a bit more durable too, I like the Vomero (just from trying on, not running), but they're soo soft I'd worry they would break down faster than the clifton

Hoka bondi - very soft, too soft for me, Hoka clifton - soft, harder than bondi - mu daily choice.

Shoes are so personal so what helps one person’s back or feet may not for another. Do you live somewhere you can go try them on? I run in Hoka Mach 6 (I know nothing about them, I just went to a running store and tried shoes on til I found what felt good) and I wear Bondi ones at work (healthcare on my feet all day)