First time I heard Rebellion Flash 3 helps over pronation... Don't go back to that store.
I don't think there are any stability racing shoes in the market right now, but if you are looking for more stable race shoes, Endorphin Pros, Supercomp Elite v4, Hoka Cielo X1 (v1 only) and Rocket X 3 are "relatively stable". Other options to consider are Asics Superblast 2, Puma Magmax both are not plated.
Stability shoes like Kayano and Brooks GTS maybe a bit too heavy to replace your Vaporfly and Rebellion Flash
As a note, the Cielo x1 2.0 has a massive cutout on the medial side of the mid/outsole. It’s a great shoe with an aggressive rocker, but it’s likely going to be more squirrelly than the EVO SL and Neo Vista. If you want something more firm/stable and in line with the SB2, the Cielo x1 2.0 is not that at all.
If you can find v1, it’s closer. And v3 might be an option, but I wouldn’t choose v2 for your use case.
If you want to try Hoka, rocket x2 or 3 would be closer (3 has a more aggressive rocker).
If you’re looking for something on sale, endorphin pro 4 is on markdown and it’s fairly stable (and not particularly soft).
Megablast may also work - although it’s not “poppy” and it’s not cheap.
As a note, the Cielo x1 2.0 has a massive cutout on the medial side of the mid/outsole. It’s a great shoe with an aggressive rocker, but it’s likely going to be more squirrelly than the EVO SL and Neo Vista. If you want something more firm/stable and in line with the SB2, the Cielo x1 2.0 is not that at all.
If you can find v1, it’s closer. And v3 might be an option, but I wouldn’t choose v2 for your use case.
If you want to try Hoka, rocket x2 or 3 would be closer (3 has a more aggressive rocker).
If you’re looking for something on sale, endorphin pro 4 is on markdown and it’s fairly stable (and not particularly soft).
Megablast may also work - although it’s not “poppy” and it’s not cheap.
As a note, the Cielo x1 2.0 has a massive cutout on the medial side of the mid/outsole. It’s a great shoe with an aggressive rocker, but it’s likely going to be more squirrelly than the EVO SL and Neo Vista. If you want something more firm/stable and in line with the SB2, the Cielo x1 2.0 is not that at all.
If you can find v1, it’s closer. And v3 might be an option, but I wouldn’t choose v2 for your use case.
If you want to try Hoka, rocket x2 or 3 would be closer (3 has a more aggressive rocker).
If you’re looking for something on sale, endorphin pro 4 is on markdown and it’s fairly stable (and not particularly soft).
Megablast may also work - although it’s not “poppy” and it’s not cheap.
Giant stack heights and soft, “bouncy” foam are ALL the rage right now. Even many long standing models are moving in that direction (like New Balance 1080 and Nike Vomero).
Hoka used to be the “OMG so much cushion” brand and now many traditional models have considerably more than Hoka.
Brooks Ghost and Adrenaline have much higher stack height than they used to, but overall the feel of the shoe is much more similar to what shoes felt like 5 years ago. Glycerin (the regular models-not the Max or Flex) is also not too far off (but again, much softer and higher stack than what used to be the case).
Adidas Supernova Rise is a really nice middle of the road option (also frequently available on sales for less than $75). Supernova Solution is the stability version.
Saucony Ride or Guide (for stability) are again…softer and higher stack than shoes used to be, but are pretty close to what they were 5 years ago.
Nike Pegasus (the regular Pegasus-not plus, premium, etc) hasn’t been updated since the ‘90’s. So that’s going to also be pretty close to how shoes felt 5 years ago.
But generally speaking, everything is becoming max stacked, with “bouncy” foam that is generally quite soft. That is the rage these days and what people seem to buy up in droves. So that’s what shoe companies are creating. Example: nearly everything that ASICS makes.
Those shoes can be tons of fun and a lot of them make running feel a bit easier with more energy return than traditional shoes. But they feel like pouffy trampolines. Which is dramatically different than the shoes of 5-10 years ago.
If you want something a little lower stack that has more advanced foam, something like Hoka Cielo Road could be a good option. Brooks’ Hyperion 3 or Launch 11/12 could also work. New Balance Rebel is still pretty soft and squishy, but it’s lower stack than much of what’s out there. Hoka Mach 6 is also a nice shoe. Not squishy, lower stack and fairly peppy. And Saucony Kinvara is a nice bland, low stack shoe with foam that hasn’t seen an ounce of innovation in 20 years. So that’s always a low stack, safe bet as well.
Most recent fulls
Arizona I ran in Cielo X1 2.0 and I had maybe 20’miles before I did.
Ottawa I ran in Rocket X2 and I had 75 miles on them
Texas I ran in Rocket X2 and I had 10 miles on them
Placid I ran in Rocket X1 and I had 25 miles on them
I never out more than about 150-200 miles on a pair of carbon plated shoes. I’m also over 200 pounds, so my shoes are taking more of a beating than most.
For Roth I’m thinking about Deviate 4 Elite since I don’t like my Rocket X3 and I’m not sure I like the Cielo x1 3.0 (although I’ve only done one 10 mile run in them so far).
The why, is because I’m faster in them, which is why almost everyone should run in plated shoes. Which plated shoe is the challenge for most people. I’ve got about 6-8 plated shoes right now which is more money than most people want to spend trying things. I’ve got 15 pair of running shoes than are open and being tried/used. I like shoes though. A lot.
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Marathon workhorse, but loud and clunky at slow paces.
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