Clifton 6

I went to a running store and had the foot scan and hated the feel of what they recommended for me. I ended up getting Hoka Cliftons instead and they have been great for my use so far but I am a slow runner and haven’t run more than 9k at once yet so I haven’t exactly pushed the boundaries of the shoe. Regardless of what you end up with, be sure to do some stretching & foam roll bc that can contribute to foot pain as much if not more than your shoe.

I did the Pig in '23! Epic. I also wore normal shoes (Hoka Cliftons) and just embraced the wet, heavy shoes. I remember running out of Mariemont around mile 18 thinking "my feet are getting dry" only for it to start raining heavily 2 minutes later. This was before I embraced race shoes and I probably would have faired much better with my meshy Vapor Flys. My husband wore his Vapor Flys and is toes faired much better than mine.

I currently use HOKA Clifton’s for running but due to the tall heel stack, I use Brookes Adrenaline or Asics Kayanos for more high intensity workouts like Hyrox, circuits etc

So there’s this redditor who went full marathon scientist mode lol dude legit made this massive side by side chart of like every good women’s running shoe out there super clutch if ur tryna figure out which ones are actually worth the hype lol that’s how i ended up getting my Hoka Cliftons tbh needed smth comfy for long runs but still cute enough to flex at Starbucks after lol [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1taxDI\_XFXphR8-qugRolFPLP\_ffUCuYvXE670FuKvR8/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1taxDI_XFXphR8-qugRolFPLP_ffUCuYvXE670FuKvR8/edit?usp=sharing)

From this, personally, I find NB super comfortable, but the foam does 'die' a bit earlier. I think if you're after a versatile trainer, Clifton is meant to be great daily (I have the Bondi for easy/recovery). They're meant to be a bit more durable too, I like the Vomero (just from trying on, not running), but they're soo soft I'd worry they would break down faster than the clifton

hoka cliftons are the 🐐

I have plantar f also and the bonds aren’t enough so I love the Clifton’s. Wider toe box, more support, better heel.

Hoka bondi - very soft, too soft for me, Hoka clifton - soft, harder than bondi - mu daily choice.

Definitely echoing everyone to go to a running store and try on different pairs! Make sure you know what the return policy is, I've returned a couple pairs because they were too small in the end. So make sure they are large enough! It is so important that they are big enough or you'll end up with pain and blisters. I was listening to NPR's Lifekit podcast and they had an episode on foot pain and it's definitely worth a listen! I think about this study they mentioned way too often: *"But one piece of data that really stopped me in my tracks on the promise of supportive footwear was a large scale study of over 7,000 participants across three branches of the military in 2014.* *Where they tried to match people's foot type to footwear and compared that to people that were just given a neutral shoe, and they showed no difference in injury.* *That is really the purpose of having that foot type match to the shoe. The idea was that it would help to reduce injuries. There's no reduction in injuries at all. Now participants were generally healthy, so it wasn't a study of acute foot pain or foot injury, just to note.”* [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/life-kit/id1461493560?i=1000705476473](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/life-kit/id1461493560?i=1000705476473) ETA: My favorites have been Brooks Adrenalines and Hoka Cliftons

I’m a dedicated Hoka wearer, and I just do speed work in my Bondis, which are the most cushion you can get. I can’t justify buying a “speed shoe” when I only do speed work 1x per week. Until last week I was rotating 3 pairs of Bondis, two of them Bondi 9s, the other was a Bondi 8. I had gotten one pair of the 9s and the 8s as a used resale, and the 8s worked great as a speed shoe. I also tried the carbon plated racing speed shoe in the panic that was 2020, and it just wasn’t worth the $$. I have ran in the Rincon, Mach, Clifton, and my forever favorite but sadly discontinued Cavu. I would say those are all decent contenders for a mid-weight shoe.