Li-Ning - FEIDIAN 5 CHALLENGER

I have the PB4 and I am a 2E. I usually go half a size up than my usual shoe size and they fit perfectly. I’d probably say Do-win fits me better than western brands.

I have the Li-Ning Challanger 5 and Elite 6 in half a size up and they work too.

Did a slow full (6.5hrs) on the feidian challenger 5. I'm 85kg

Not sure if this shoe would work with your pain. But I ran a 6.5hr marathon in the Li Ning Feidian Challenger 5C. The race got cancelled last minute due to bad weather so I decided to run it with my girlfriend instead. Surprisingly comfortable for that duration, I didn't really feel any pain for being on my feet for that long in carbon plated shoes

Anecdotal but for my case, they do help. The majority of the arguments for speed are made by elite and fast runners that are skinny and light. Theoretically, the amount of force a heavier runner would need to push into the ground to get into the sub 5 min/km is greater than what a much lighter runner would need. I'm 82kg I ran 30km 2 months ago with non-carbon plated shoes (neo vista) in 4hrs with 170 avg HR. Last week I did the same pace using Li Ning Feidian Challenger 5 with 155 avg HR. Both shoes felt fine cushion wise after. Only difference lang is the DOMS the ff day.

If you want something completely different I'd try the Dynafish Danian. A bit narrow and only up to US11 though which is bloody annoying. Otherwise a super light, snappy racing shoe that has similar stack height to the ES5. If you're worried about stack height or stability the Li-ning Feidian challenger 5 is insane value for about $50 on TaoBao. Similar to the Endorphin speed as a slightly toned down race shoe but a bit lighter and higher stack.

The 5C is a smidge narrow in midfoot, the Evo sl is a smidge short. Definitely would still say they both fit TTS

I really enjoyed Boom fiber on my last few Li-Ning shoes. If you want a plated shoes you could try Li-Ning Feidian 5 Challenger since they're less than 1/2 price of any other model you listed. I'm running 12-16 km with them 4 days a week and they're GREAT. Best shoe i've ever used. I'm expecting to get over 1000km on them as they don't show any sign of wear at 300/400km. Red Hare 8 pro would also be a great choice. Don't get the non pro version, they're bad and unresponsive.

Feidan Challenger 5. Softer, bouncier, perfected version of the Endorphin Speed 2. Similar to Endorphin Pro 3 but better at 1/4 the price. Feels great at an extremely wide range of paces.

LiNing Feidan Challenger 5, can buy 3 for the price of 1 Speed 5 and better in every way. Thank me later.

No experience with Evo Sl. Have 3 pairs of Feidan 5's love them that much. Very versatile and poppy. The only other shoe I stocked up on like this was the OG Nike Invincible for my easy/long/recovery runs FWIW.

Love the challenger 5 so much I order 2 extra pairs. Endorphin Pro 3 vibes. Maybe better. Midsole is just perfect. It has exceptional range. Feel great at easy to mile pace. Just love them.

Lining Feidian 5C can be had for around 60 euros and blows these out of the water

All 3x Li-Ning shoes I've tried so far have been excellent (Yueying 5, Red Hare 8 Pro, Feidian 5 Challenger). After also considering Xtep and Qiaodan, I've now ordered an Anta C202 on the 11.11 sale, very curious to check it out. BMAI, Do-Win, and Dynafish also seem good, but are smaller and not as easily available.

I also own and RH8Pro and F5C in the same nominal size. I find the RH8Pro upper has a noticeably narrower mid foot, would you say so, too? The F5C indeed is more normal fitting in the mid foot and the toe box.

>I'm only using them for my interval speed work though. No idea how they'd hold up on longer millage efforts Great shoe, ran a half marathon in it without issue. Excellent value.

Great shoes, I've got three. The Feidian 5 Challenger is nice and bouncy. Have taken them from 5k up all the way to half marathon with good results and comfort. Sizing is a bit of a risk remotely (my 3 pairs are all fine according to official size chart), but you have the advantage of trying them on in person. For detailed Chinese shoe reviews[jogoncrago](https://youtu.be/LakpO0QWZyM) (link to their 5 Challenger review) and [HUI](https://youtube.com/@orh1030) are top of the pack.

Had a very positive experience running a half in them (also great for 10km and 15km). How are they over a full distance?

My two go to at the moment are the Adizero Evo Sl or the Li-Ling Feidian Challenger 5. In fact the Challenger 5 is my new favorite m, absolutely beautiful shoe can be used for Daily, Tempo or intervals.

I got the challenger 5 from Shein for £62. They are really great. My only issue is my left foot has a little heel lift and as there is no heel lock lace loops. I had to re-tie once during my run. Used them for an up-tempo interval run and track intervals so far. (I've heard the challenger 6 isn't a good upgrade!) I got the Feidian 6 elite for about £140 from ali express. I don't really know what to say other than WOW. Soft and very explosive, I managed to get them down to 2hr10min marathon pace pretty easily without breaking a sweat. Word of caution though they might be unstable on corners if you're not careful. My usual size is 10.5/11 UK, and chinese 46 was fine for both the lining shoes Unrelated but I also got the Dynablast Xiaonian for about £60 plus fees using a combination of buy&ship and Taobao. The step in feel is amazing, can't wait to take them out but waiting for drier weather as its been non-stop rain here for several weeks 😐 The largest size they had was 45 Chinese but they are a pretty big fit so fit my feet ok.