Mizuno - Neo Vista 2

Recovery: Glycerin Max 2 Daily: Altra Experience Flow 2 Long Run: Neo Zen 2 or Neo Vista 2 Speed Training: Mizuno Hyperwarp Pro Race: Hyperwarp Elite Trail: I'll just use my daily trainer

Consider mizuno neo Vista 2, you'll love them especially for long runs and stability

Honestly, for a 3h half, I'd use the Superblast you got. They are exceptional shoes for heavier runners. Especially when you tire out, you'll appreciate the stability and protective cushioning. In contrast, a softer shoe typically demand more from your stabilising muscles. On tired legs, with your form going out the window, that's not a winning combination. As a heavier runner, you also risk a shoe bottoming out after some time, if the cushioning isn't enduring enough. Imho, softer cushioning is very tempting, but can be deceiving. E.g.: * My Neo Vista 2 feels like a leather couch, but it demands focus to not roll an ankle in a tight turn. The shock absorption is fantastic, but it's a better shoe for easy days than for the tired end of a race, pushing. * One of my other long run shoes is the Asics GlideRide Max 2. It's a pretty firm ride, very similar to the Superblast. After a few runs on softer shoes, it feels initially harsher to run in, but as I settle into a pace, that goes away. I need to work a lot less to keep my form clean and my stabilising muscles remain reasonably fresh. Recently did a 30km long run for marathon prep and my legs felt as fresh as they could be after a long steady effort.

I have the same issue you do; from my experience, the Magmax always manages to keep me slow. It gets in the way of anything that requires speed. You could have a different experience, but out of the list you have provided, and I've tried them all aside from the Vomero Plus, the Magmax feels pleasant but cumbersome, so I keep it slow with them. Other shoes that play that role well are the Hurricane 24 or 25 and the Neo Vista 2. They have the same vibe as the Magamax; those are the models I reach for when I don't have the discipline to stay slow, so I require a shoe to do it for me.

Love my Neo Vista 2 for this purpose

I have both zen and vista 2. I definitely prefer zens as the plate in vista kinda interfere and makes them uncomfortable. My biggest complain with both of them are they have awful upper. I have over 30 miles in zens and I still get blisters and the laces put so much pressure that I feel sore when I run beyond 10 miles. Only reason I bear with them is for that amazing foam. I really hope they change the upper in the next version 

Sb2 is the way, later you can add the evo sl (this is unstable and feel like 2 round chunks of foam instead of one long foam like sb2 but can do well under pace5). Sb2 is not good in the first 50km for me (prolly shorter for you because im 85kg) but then it sings, you need to change the insole though, for it to shine. Neo is very unstable and somewhat not the best you can opt for, megablast is full on race the upper is bad for daily, and you should ignore the carbonplater. Another awesome path for you is choosing the topo / altra for stronger feet, cheers!

I have the Vista 2. I have slightly wide feet but I prefer a loose fit side to side, and will get shoes in 2E whenever possible. The Vista 2 is totally fine to me width wise. I also went TTS when most are recommending half a size down for the Vista 2. It’s long, but no issues with heel lock for me.

I hated the Mizuno bootie upper, lockdown was impossible for me. Love the Vomero Plus, have ordered another pair to rotate in my easy runs

MZ neo vista 2 (weird bootie upper) NB 1080v14 (narrow toe box) NB Novablast 5 (didn’t like the fit) Gel Nimbus 27 (I’ve kept these as back-up) Brooks Glycerin Max (blisters on my arch) Hoka Skyward X (upper was pinching my arch from the minute I tried them on, didn’t even run in them) I’ve had the SB2 too, but I consider it more tempo than easy Edit— my use case for these was very easy runs, 70% of max HR

I love the speed 5 and its a versatile shoe but its primary use for me was speed/tempo work. I can't comment how it would hold up closer to 13 miles as my max on any given day was no more than 7 (including warm up, cool down, and actual workout). its a zippy shoe for sure and you will feel fast in them but I can't comment how forgiving they are as far as cushion, esp with a nylon plate in there. Maybe boston 13 or Superblast 2 (SB3 is coming out in a few months too). I'm personally using the SB2 as my daily, and the neo vista 2 as my long run