Neo Vista

I run at OPs pace too and I think I can make some sense into what he's saying. I followed the general advice to use comfortable shoes for my 20 miler and I blew up at my goal race pace, 7:05/km within 10km despite being able to run the half at 6:40/km pace with no issues. The only difference were the shoes I used. I used the Neo Vista 1 and it felt like it sucked up all my energy and my legs were dead early on. While I had no problem maintaining a faster pace with my 361 flame 2.5 lol.

I got the Neo Vista (og version) for LR with some light uptempo blocks. While the shoe is great for long run and middle foot landing, and is smooth on setting a pace and coasting on it. Y found it sloppy and harder to keep up the pace when I reach the 7:30/mile realm (about my HMP). Anything slower than that I don’t even think about the shoe, but I had to do a recent block of 5k durning my long run at 7:30/mile (4:40/km) and felt the shoe was a little bit out of its depth. As other commenter mentioned, apparently the NV2 got better at this.

I guess people don't like to try something a little different. The majority of runners will just buy Nike or Adidas etc without thinking. I wore the NV1 pacing my wife to a 3:42 Mara at Sydney a few weeks back & I honestly can't think of a better shoe to run at that pace - comfortable with the right amount of pop.

I bought the Neo Vista V1's for half marathon training last week for £101 instead of the usual £150 now the V2 is out and they're that cushioned I don't feel like I've been for a run the day after. Only had the time to take them for 5kms so far but they feel effortless to run in

It sounds like you're looking for a 'long run cruiser', and something like the Mizuno neo vista, Puma Magmax, Asics Gel Nimbus, Nike Vomero Plus etc are the type of shoes which would be suitable. Max stack cushion but supportive even at slower paces. I have the Neo Vista 1's and Nimbus 25's and feel like I could run forever in them. I use the Vista's for longer runs I can pick up the pace in if I choose to and the Nimbus for my slower recovery runs. The Vista's have a nylon plate in them which you don't feel, so maybe more suitable for longer runs support wise, while the Nimbus are softer but I can't say how they'd feel over a marathon distance as I haven't taken them that far. But the day after I have ran in either shoe, my legs and feet feel great, so they offer a good amount of protection. Try some out at a store and see what's suitable for you. A friend of mine ran this years Manchester marathon in 5hr+ and ran it in Brooks Ghosts which people wouldn't class as a marathon shoe. But different strokes/shoes for different folks!

Mizuno Neo Zen 1 and Vista 1 where really fun shoes for me. No idea for stability, they have a high stackheight

Love my Vista 1’s and Zens. Will eventually pickup a pair of Vista 2’s when my second pair of the 1’s is done. I’m curious to see if anyone chimes in with thoughts on the WRP Low.

I have the Nike Vomero Plus and the Asics Nimbus. The Vomero Plus is what the Nimbus should have been. The ZoomX midsole is compliant and bouncy compared to the EVA midsole in the Nimbus. According to RunRepeat, the weight difference is negligible between the two shoes. Prefer the Vomero for long runs. Nike is always offering discounts. I have the Neo Zen and the Neo Vista 1 & 2. Uppers on Mizuno work well for me but can be problematic for some people. Neo Vista 2 is another great long run cruiser. With a TPU upper layer of midsole foam the Vista 2 is fun and offers excellent impact protection.

I have the Neo Vista 1, Neo Zen, Wave Sky 9 and two Neo Vista 2s. I converted my Wave Sky 9 to a walking shoe since I’m on my feet at work all day and they’re supportive and comfortable. Neo Vista 2 is my favorite Mizuno running shoe. Went 1/2 size down. If you enjoy the Neo Zen you will not be disappointed. Definitely 💯 percent worth a try.