Mizuno - Wave Inspire 17

I run my first marathon in 3:40h this year with a pair of Mizuno Wave 17 and 0 training (I am a cyclist). But I had no idea about it shoes at all. 😅 I am planning to use a pair of adidas adios pro (I am training with evo sl), or maybe a pair of megablast (I use Novablast for long runs now). As a non carbon plated option I would consider the evo sl for sure. I love them.

I also need a higher drop running shoe, it’s the only thing that reduces pain for my foot issues. The ones that work for me are the Mizuno Wave Inspire (12mm drop) or the Brooks Glycerine GTS (10mm drop).

I'm currently running in a pair of Nike Pegasus, but my preferred shoes are Mizuno Wave Horizons. I'm getting a pair of Mizuno Wave Inspire because they were on sale to try out. I wear a 14w or 15, and these both have fit me pretty well. As for breathable I live in the south and my feet don't come out sweaty and smelling like rancid cheese after a run so I guess they fit that bill too.

I'm sure there are cases where it's not needed. But I disagree gait analysis doesn't serve a purpose. And the quality of what you get depends on where you go. Go to a store out to make a quick buck and you're probably not getting the best advice. But most stores aren't like that unless the sales person's on a commission, which isn't usual where I am based. But is likely to be more common in the US. The store I go to steered me away from my preferred Asics Kayanos to cheaper Mizuno Wave Inspires two years ago, significantly cheaper, doing the same job and lighter (not this year's models) they are looking for return custom, so don't necessarily recommend the most expensive shoe. They've also given me the same recommendations as the last specialist store I went to ten years ago in another city. (We moved since). From personal experience with shin splints in my 20s and other issues until I had gait analysis and got a stability shoe I had problems running any kind of distance. I've since run 15 marathons and a few ultras and having the right shoe is what allowed me to do that. On cross country ultras across rough terrain it's probably not as necessary, you need a good trail runner, but support around the ankle and good grip are my priorities there, along with the ability to let water out instead of retaining it. All of that stability or over pronation means less when the ground varies with every step from rock to marsh to grass to gravel. I've used several trail runners, but my main criteria with them has been the ability to let water in and let water back out again with good socks so my feet aren't sopping for hours. In relation to comment around ankle strength I spent a good deal of my 20s and 30s doing martial arts barefoot and had plenty of ankle strength and power in my legs. While MA is likely to have contributed to the shin splints, ( jumps and lands on hard floors, shin kicks etc), my ankles were already strong by the time I started running. And another reason to go to a specialist is it helps to get a good fitting shoe done properly. Regardless of type, the fit is important. Whether you over pronate or don't. You need to know what a good fit is. A lot of people are wearing shoes that are too tight or too loose and without enough support. Look at many injuries and it may well be a great shoe, but fitted poorly. It's the most critical part of your gear if you're running. It's worth getting it right. I get it's not always needed, but if you plan on running any kind of distance why wouldn't you get the basics right so you have a solid foundation on which to build instead of an injury waiting to happen.

Keep an eye out for the new mizuno wave inspire when it updates. They’re adding a supercritical foam to it; I’m excited to see how it performs as it’s always been one of my favorite shoes in that category.

They're most likely just going to hurt - they're forcing your foot into a position that may not be natural for it. The most sympathetic support shoe to lower arches are the Mizuno Inspire, but they're dull to run in. Go try a few pair of shoes on and go with what's comfortable. You might be better in a more traditional drop (10mm); Brooks Ghost, Mizuno Rider, Puma Magnify are all great shoes.

Btw going from 12 - 10mm drop is really not enough to notice much of a difference. Either way, best options for you to try based on what you’re describing are the Brooks Adrenaline in a wide or the Mizuno Wave Inspire. But be open to something a bit different

https://preview.redd.it/udgsl8zv769g1.jpeg?width=2732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dab39fd684c4435242bf48984cc5711019c00cf With the Nimbus... now much better with the Mizun Inspire and the Asics GT2000-14

I'm a big fan of the Mizuno Wave Riders and Inspire

Long time distance runner here. First, Champions are garbage. Second, your price range is retail for the best running shoes. My rec is get fitted at a proper running store for your 1st pair to confirm your proper sizing and running form (you may need neutral, cushioning, stability, etc), buy from the shop, and from then on buy the prior version online after a new version comes out for $30-50 off. New versions hit every year, but usually little changes occur. Personally, I need stability shoes and was fitted for Brooks Adrenaline. I still run in the newer versions of the Brooks but also tried other stability shoes and have been pleased with Asics Kayano, Hoka Arahi, Saucony Guide, New Balance 860 and Mizuno Inspire, fwiw. One other frugal note, once you wear them out after 300-500 miles, you can use them for the gym, walking around, whatever. I wish you good fortune on your running!