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Honestly it is impossible to answer this question for you. Everyone's feet are so wildly different. Main thing to do is to go to a proper running store that has all the good shoes of all the good brands and just try them on. You will immediately be able to rule out a lot of shoes just by the initial feel. Some stores will have a thing you can stand on to analyze the pressure on your feet and recommend shoes for you. Once you narrow it down to the ones that feel right, one of your decisions is mostly going to be how much cushion you want. And again, that's a pretty personal preference thing that won't matter that much to a beginner. In general, shoes with more cushion end up being bulkier and heavier (duh), so they're better for lower intensity long runs with lots of steps, where the cushion makes a difference. Shoes designed to run as fast as possible will often have less cushion to be lighter and not have you sink so much into each step. But even then, what is best for you depends a lot on your body's running mechanics. Anyway, as a beginner, you won't really be running super far OR super fast, so it really will mostly just be what is most comfortable to you in terms of cushion. By the time you've worn those shoes out in a year or so of running/walking 4-5 days a week, you will know enough about yourself to know what you want in a shoe. Personally, I started off with New Balance 880s because the new balance store had the foot analyzer thinger and I tried them, and they felt the best. They're also a middle of the road, everyday trainer type shoe with a medium amount of cushion, so very versatile. But after running in those for a year and getting a lot faster and running a lot farther, I started to realize what I didn't love about them. They'd rub me in a few places, they'd feel a bi too loose or too tight around the top lace sometimes, etc., and I struggled to get them to feel right when lacing up. And I wanted slightly more cushion. After about a year of running about 20Km per week, they were starting to feel flat, too. So I went to a running store with all the brands and settled on Brooks Glycerin 22s. They didn't have the issue with the uneven tightness of the upper to me. I didn't have to do a runners lock knot. They were a bit cushier. Ran in those for almost a year, then had my first half marathon coming up and figured the Brooks would be too worn out by the time that happened, so I went back to the running store to get a new pair so I'd have a fresher pair for the race. But I still tried on different shoes again. And as much as I liked the Brooks, and almost bought another pair, I tried on the Mizuno Wave Cloud 8s, which happened to be on sale, and which further showed me that there was still room for improvement. They felt just as cushy as the Brooks, but with just a BIT more firmness in the heel that felt more "right" to me than the brooks, lol. So trust me, you'll figure it out. And your feet might even change shape over years of running, so never feel bad trying different shoes.

880s felt harder to me, which lead to foot pain i liked 1080s much better

Trail shoes will hold your foot in place, but the outsole will last on tar/cement road shorter than the sole of road running shoes (asics gt series, nike downshifter, quest, adidas duramo, Supernova, etc, newbalance idk many but i have 880) Main thing - check whether your mid foot or heel lands first while running (or maybe toes like mine). Pick shoes according to that, if you're investing any serious amount. It made difference to me.

Agreed. I was a size 10. Now I'm 10.5 double wide. I wear these

I ran in Bondi 8s for years, found New Balance 880s more comfortable, I am somewhere between a 2E and 4E width, 11 normal shoes, 11.5 running shoes.