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I think it’s all dependent on personal preference. I tend to like a little bit more cushioning and moderate support and i pronate a bit. I’m using the NB 860 v14 and they’ve been great. I’ve also just picked up the Puma Magmax 2 and put in some mild support insoles. They’ve been great. Very cushioned and provide enough cushioning for me knees. I would suggest going to a specialty store and try them all on.
Hi all, Seeking some help in choosing next shoes. Beeing running for 4+ years consistently with no injuries and now deadling with achilles issue that has been going on for a year! I have always run in stability shoes: Adrenaline gts or my all time favorite the NB 860. For racing Saycony elite v1. Also have a pair of gel-kayano 30 with quite a lot of miles on. The 860 unfortunately changed design completely in the new version and it works horribly for me (also before injury!), the whole wedge idea is not good for me. So I'm looking for something like the old nb860 or adrenaline gts. Options: * I tried the glycerin gts but it feels a bit whobbily, but nice and soft. * A new pair of adrenalin gts 24, but they run a little too firm it feels like. And the 12mm drop causes some pain for me. * Try the new gel-kayano 32, it is the obvious choice however they lowered drop to 8 from 10mm, and concensus is that higher drop is better with achilles issues. * Other options (Forever run? Wave inspire?) what have i missed? At least for now i think i need some stability to not further provoke the achilles from too hard of an overpronation. It is a narrow field as I dont want a low drop shoe but also need stability. So please chip in if i have missed some good options! I have a normal midfoot/heelstrike, use EU 47,5 or US 13 and weights 80 kg. The shoe is just for daily milage.
Yes v13 was amazing, the v14 feels amazing (softer more bouncy), but the new way they do stability is not working that great for my feet specifically. The stability is there but they way it does it does not work. Interesting with the superblast, i have looked at that many times and could maybe work maybe with my orthotics in.
Everybody's feet are different, so that's a tough answer. I have collapsed arches and over-pronate, fairly severely with my left foot, and have had varying success with wildly different shoes. The key for me is a stable heel matched to a non-intrusive arch. I had to trial and error quite a bit with different shoes. I like running in the Saucony Hurricane 24 because it has a lot of good cushion, a lot of different stability elements going on, without having a traditional medial post. There's enough cushion that I feel protected, matched with enough guidance that I'm not moving/wobbling excessively anywhere. The New Balance 860v14 is similar for me, though it's less exciting and the arch-support is slightly more intrusive. I tried the Saucony Hurricane 25 on in store and they seem lighter and a touch more sporty feeling. The Saucony Triumph 20 oddly enough works great for me as well because the lockdown is flawless for me in addition to a stable feeling heel. I think a good, stable heel keeps my inner-ankle from rotating inward and is just enough that I'm not beating up my foot/arch. These next two are really oddballs for me and it took me years to even consider giving them a shot. On a whim I tried a Saucony Kinvara 15 and Altra Escalante 4 recently and love them both. I always figured this type of shoe would never ever work for me, but they do. The light, low, firm setup is inherently stable and the ground-feel allows me to really focus on my form: not slamming my feet or heels down, running quietly is what I tell myself. I think many shoes just have too much height and squish that allows too much movement for me and lower stack, firmer shoes leave less room for error. The Kinvara feels both light and minimal but just protective enough at the same time. They also have minimal arch-humps so I never feel uncomfortable pressure there. I keep runs in these shoes less than 5 miles since they're on the more minimal side. Here are some that did not work for me: Saucony Guide 16: horrible, painful stiff medial post, slappy shoe New Balance 860v12: too firm, invasive arch New Balance 1080v12: insane instability Adidas Adizero SL2: I occasionally use these but they are very soft with minimal structure Topo Fly-lite 5: rock-hard, invasive arch support, wildly uncomfortable Brooks Adrenaline GTS 19: like running in a wooden clog
I think it depends on which model. I’ve compared NB 860v14 in 2E and 4E side by side and the 4E does have a wider sole.
Try NB860v14. It’s good for me.
Ik heb nu new Balance 860 v14. Ben er heel blij mee.
I use the Genesis for trails (great shoe) and the Kayano 32 for some easy recovery runs. I have used the NB860v14 but found it kinda clunky and slow. I would suggest trying the Salomon Aero Glide 3 or 4 (3 is on sale if you can find it). They have the same midsole/outsole, just an updated upper on the 4. It's listed as a neutral shoe but it definitely has some stability to resist over-pronation. I use it for all structured workouts and long runs but could use it every day. It's much lighter and snappier, with great energy return compared to the NB860, GT-4000, or Kayano. I also use the Brooks Glycerin Max for easy runs and really like it - very, very smooth heel-to-toe transition with elements that make it feel stable.
I have the 860v14, the Tempus 2, and the Adrenaline GTS 24. Note that I'm a heavier runner, at 90kg. * The 860v14 feels nice and plush to walk in, but when running in them it seems as though I'm instantly bottoming them on each footstrike, so the brunt of the impact feels abrupt and firm. This isn't a dealbreaker, the ride experience isn't bad per se, but it means the shoe doesn't feel as cush as I was expecting it to when I first did a walk test in them. The gusset on the tongue also digs into my right midfoot on the lateral side, which is annoying but not a serious concern. * I don't mind the Adrenaline GTS 24. They're firmer than the 860v14, the foam has a dense squish to it which absorbs impact and makes my feet feel well-protected while running. For some reason Brooks decided to reduce the forefoot volume in the shoe though, so it was a bit constrictive until I broke them in (though the shoe comes in wide sizes so if you try them on in store you may be able to deal with this), and the heel collar sits lower than I'd like. * I'm going to be the possibly lone voice of dissent here and say that I absolutely hate the Tempus 2, and consider my purchase of this shoe to be a mistake. I bought this shoe hoping for a stable and protective yet responsive shoe for long runs, but the ride experience for me has been dominated by the *incredibly* firm and unpleasant EVA stability frame abusing my midfoot. It's a really unpleasant thing to land on over and over again. I feel that I only ever get the responsive character of the PEBA parts of the midsole when I'm running downhill, at which point, to its credit, it does start doing the "shoe doing the running for you" supershoe thing. The rest of the time the PEBA is just not a pronounced part of the ride experience. I'm hoping that the shoe will break in and start actually protecting my feet (I've put 35km on it so far), but I'll likely write it off as a loss once my pair of Puma MagMax arrives. Oh, and the upper is tacky synthetic garbage, the uppers on every other shoe mentioned here are far superior. Hope the above helps. I seem to be a lone voice of dissent on the Tempus 2 so you might want to either go with the popular acclaim and give them a shot anyway, or ideally try them on in store before you decide. That said, if I were making this decision, I'd try to snag a pair of 860v14's on steep discount for walking and possibly some easy runs (NB has had some crazy sales), and grab a pair of Brooks Hyperion GTS 2's. As far as stability running shoe quality goes, the Hyperion GTS 2 is really in a league of its own in just about every regard.
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