FuelCell Rebel v4

I actually love the NB line up. Im 5'11 190lbs. My BIGGEST issue with their damn shoes is they heel rub like no other shoes. I ran a new 5k pb yesterday at sub 6 pacing in the elite v4s and came out with a blister like I finished running a marathon. So they definitely could perform but the heel rub sucks. Ive had same experience with rebel v4s where I loved the shoe but heel rubbed. I have the trainers now too so im hoping that issue doesnt carry to them as well. But I feel the response in the NB shoes are really great.

I got suckered into trying the v4. They are just bad for every run and every distance. I gave up on them at 50 miles. I know I won’t try anything with fuel cell ever again.

Same exact thing happened to me with the v4 lol and I didn’t have a single good run in them. No clue what they put in those advertisements!

If you already have 1080's and Rebel v4's, I would start a rotation around those.  Alternate the 1080's and the Rides for easy/long runs, use the Rebels for speed work. If you wanted to stick with Saucony,  the new anticipated Azura comes out next week,  Endorphin Speed 5's are also well reviewed, and the Pro 4's are on sale right now, as the Pro 5 is coming out soon.   https://runrepeat.com/guides/best-orthotic-friendly-running-shoes RunRepeat has a category for orthotic friendly shoes, but I can see how it is overwhelming. The running shoe geeks can really overcomplicate things.

I’m agnostic on gait analysis, I’ve never had one but also never felt the need for one. At one point I used to get knee pain but increasing cadence and changing to midfoot strike made it better. I tend to just try to find shoes that are considered ok for wide feet, have a decent toe box and are ok for mid strikers. Currently using ASCIS novablast 5 which I really like. Previously did 300-400 miles in the New Balance Rebel v4 which were fine, but probably prefer the Novablast.

The best running shoe for you is the one that fits your foot the best. I like the new balance rebel v4s for daily training and SC elite v4s for racing. Largely because both fit my foot and strike parttern almost perfectly. I've also been enjoying the adidas evo sl. For daily walking, I've been fully converted into the minimalist, zero drop shoes. I use a pair of lems on the daily. I find that cushioned shoes for prolonged periods of standing or walking actually make my ankles feel uncomfortable. Not so much for the no stack/lower stack stuffm

I loved the Rebel v3 because they were more dynamic. The Rebel v4, while it works for interval work at u/4:10 min/km, isn’t the Rebel v3. I’ve bought another Rebel v4 since, with the release of the Rebel v5, they’re on clearance at low prices, and I think they’re perfect for easy runs at u/5:15–5:20 min/km. If I want something faster I might go for the Topo Cyclone 3 or the Flame Mix, although I prefer non-plated shoes for training. Until now I’d been using the Topo Specter 2, but the outsole rubber is peeling off, and I think the Rebel v4 can take its place and do well there. I don’t want shoes like the NB 1080 or the Clifton… I prefer lighter options