Alphafly 4 (Nike-Dev 16141)

Love the vapor fly it’s my favorite 5k 10k shoe. But man did the alpha fly give me pain , foot pain hip pain. Tried the adios pro 4 and it’s been amazing . That high arch structure of the alpha fly 4 kills me

Love quantifiable info! Thank you. Was going to say a lot of super shoes do well at both while having phenomenal foam for comfort and the light upper for weight. I will say VF4 are almost too light and not cushioned enough for 26.2 IMO of course. I like the AP4 or metaspeeds that seem to excel at both. Though no super shoe will be as stable as a more daily.

I rotate between 6-8 pairs, so I suggest getting at least two pairs. As far as what to suggest; running shoes are extremely personal. Everyone is different. I’ve been loving Adidas Adizero EVO SLs, ASICs Superblast 2s, Hoka Skyward X for those middle distance easy runs, Adidas Boston 13s for threshold work, Saucony Endorphin Speeds for threshold, and I also have a stable of race shoes (Nike Vaporflys, Alphaflys) for intervals and racing.

My exact thoughts as well. Train in Pegasus, race in Alphaflys.

Alphaflys for race day Zoomfly6 for long runs (trainning)

Running Shoes... I'm actually wearing my Pegasus Plus right now. It's great for walking around all day. I keep my Alphafly, VaporFly, Streakfly and Zoomfly for training and racing.

I’ve found a few shoes like that. A friend gave me a pair of Alphaflys that didn’t quite work for them and I have worn them a couple times. I need to figure out the lacing because that high jutting arch isn’t comfortable unless I get the shoe adjusted just right.

I apologize for my ignorance but when folks talk about stability, what do they mean? A friend gave me a pair of super shoes that didn’t work for them and when I walk in them I feel kind of wobbly, but once I start to run I feel set. In the back of my mind I don’t feel quite as planted as the Free, but I’m also not 0.5” from the ground. I don’t know if that means I am finding them unstable, stable, or in between. 

I have tried them all. Metaspeeds, Alphaflys, Valorflys, Adios Pro. They all end up destroying my feet or Achilles. Zoom Fly 6 is the most perfect one for me. My feet don’t feel so much pain with them.