I'm 88kg and 191cm
I disagree with your carbon statements I think they will help alot
I wear the puma deviate nitro elite 3 and elite 4
I'd recommend highly the 3's very cheap, alot of mileage for a carbon, so comfortable and fast, very fast
My carbons are way more comfortable that the 2 daily shoes below. The foam is amazing it's the real winner not the carbon plate
I wear clifton 9s, sb2 for daily runs and it's night and day between them and carbons
Currently:
Megablast LR+workouts + up tempo daily
ON Cloud Monster3 Hyper. Recovery +Daily + Long steady (SB3 should be here but the Monster is so much more fun, a definite sleeper)
Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4 Race + workouts
AP4 is a great shoe at all distances , even more so at a discount but durability might be an issue.
I would take a look at the Puma DNE4. Grabbed a pair this year and it’s a fantastic shoe all around. Extremely lightweight, stable and durability has been great as with most Puma shoes. Definitely a workhorse super shoe.
They are way more stable and “normal” feeling than the AP4. Besides racing, I could use the Pumas for a variety of uptempo runs and workouts. The AP4 I would only race in. They’re really unstable the heal.
I have the AP4 and did my first session in the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4 just now.
Like em both a lot, AP4 is suuuper soft, Puma also soft but way more stable. They both feel quick, but the Puma felt more stable for a Marathon. The AP4 on tired legs is a killer, the Puma is considered one of the quickest shoes at the moment while still being stable.
Also the fit feels better, the AP4 feels like a nailcatcher while on my run today the puma felt like a sock, maybe a lil loose.
The Puma is brand new but still "only 250" compared to the metaspeed.
Tried the metaspeed and would never use it for marathon, because you gotta have perfect form all the way, maybe because my feet felt "wide" in them eventho they arent really.
Thats just my experience so far, in the end i think realisticly i would always go for comfort over "pace" because they are all quick, in the end you rather have less pain for the same time and a shorter recovery.
Ran my first HM in evo sl's and did a 1.32, also worked without carbon.
Adios Pro 4’s are awesome. A super nice workout/race combo shoe. Big discounts aswell, now that the 5 is launching soon.
I just bought the new devite nitro elite 4 exactly for the purpose you are looking for. I am super happy with them, very fast, but also stable, and they come to life with speed.
If you enjoy Superblast 2, I think you will enjoy megablast. Very cushioned, awesome energy return!
If you want to go to a super-racey plated shoe. I will recommend Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4. very stable, light racer
(similar to this post, but I figured basically no shoe is the same 4 years later: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RunningShoeGeeks/comments/szs59o/saucony\_endorphin\_pro\_for\_an\_overpronator/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RunningShoeGeeks/comments/szs59o/saucony_endorphin_pro_for_an_overpronator/))
I (89kg, quite heavy overpronator, midfoot striker, 5km 19min, 10km 41min, hm 1h31min, running 50km/week) am looking for some proper racing shoes.
Until now, I've mostly been using heavy stability shoes (the Asics Gel Kayano 32 are my main trainers, and I run competitions with the Adidas Supernove Solution 3), so I'm a bit insecure on how unstable those super shoes actually are, as I read a lot about collapsing midsoles being an issue with super shoes for overpronators.
To clarify: I'm looking purely for (road) raceday shoes. Higher end budget is fine, as long as it gives me shoes that I can actually wear without getting injuries, and be quick on during race days.
1. What are good "super shoes" for overpronators like me? Are there any raceday shoes that specifically target overpronating runners?
2. Are they even worth it? For someone with my overpronation/weight/speed? Honest opinion, how much time would they save me on a 5km/10km/hm/fm?
3. And would anti-pronation insoles work in plated shoes? Or would it "diminish" the energy return?
I have read/watched all kinds of reviews about shoes, but it's hard to find reviews on them out of that specifically target performance for overpronators. Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 is mentioned a lot: is it as stable as people say? And is the pro 5 a substantial improvement (with the extra $100)? Or should I better look elsewhere (ZoomFly's?)
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UPDATE: I bought Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4's. They (together with the Zoomfly 6's) were surprisingly stable, and were much better at preventing overpronation then the Endorphin Pro 5's or Vaporfly 4's, which I found equally unstable (Endorphin pro 4's were not for sale at the store unfortunately)
It feels like the shoes have a slight "natural" tendency to keep the inside of your foot slightly higher.
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