Puma - FAST-R NITRO™ Elite 2

Their lifestyle shoes mostly run narrow,but not their running pairs. I have 2 DN2s, 1 DNE2, 1 MagMax, and 1 Fast-R2. All fit my normal feet fine. (And by 'normal,' I mean they fit any pegasus pair with zero space issues.) If anything, all that's needed are just thinner insoles if your feet are wider than mine.

Absolutely agree on the review. They disappear on the feet while feeling fantastic at the same time - if that makes sense! I've had all three version of the DNE and each has been very different. I've just take a pair of the DNE2s past 750k and picked up my third pair of them in a sale recently have have 300k on them already. They are a brilliant training show. But the DNE3 is a proper race shoe - I'm at 140k with my pair and hope to get a good bit more but do sense that the outsole won't quite last as long as the previous version.

They have a super line-up. I had a couple of pairs of DN2 too as well.

I have the magic speed 4 and the puma nitro deviate elite 2. Im not sure I run fast enough or if I just haven’t broken them in but the MS4 doesn’t have much pop. The pumas had me flying straight out of the box

The Deviate Elite 3 is most effective with a midfoot strike. I was talking about pumas real Race Shoe, the Fast-R. The whole series is designed for mid to forefoot strike and really high speed. They unleash their full potential If you run at 5:30/mile (3:25/km). English is Not my first language. Im talking about the additional load on your calves from the Energy Return. Every decently fast runner i ever talked to had to adapt and felt it in the calves after the first sessions with plated shoes

The fast fwd was their shorter distance Shoe. The fast-R was made for half and full from the start, i used Them myself for various half and full marathons. Have you tried The fast-R yourself? The 1 and 2 were already very unstable over the heel, and the 3 drives that even further....almost no material at the heel, If you stand your heel is lower than the midfoot. I have the pleasure to train with elite and sub elite runners, those that run more on the heel cant use the shoe.

Most effective with a midfoot strike? Based on what? Reddit wisdom? The Fast-R was their shorter distance shoe until recently, and it arguably still holds down that segment for most people, though elites use it for the marathon. It's accomodating to different foot strikes. There's no such thing as "additional load on your calves from the Energy return." That's not how it works.

For me it made an insignificant difference in terms of times…. I will say a couple years ago the difference in training for my first half marathon in my puma carbon fibers vs Nike Pegasus was that my leg muscles did feel fresher with the carbon fibers on but if I ran multiple long runs in a week with them on then my knees were sore by the end of the week. Obviously you save the carbon fibers for races/speed training but I was too excited to try them out!

If you're going with the popular suggestion of the Puma Nitro, I'd try some on to see if you need to size up. I bought a pair and they were only ever so slighty narrow. Sized up and they were perfect and would definitely recommend too.

I preferred Puma Nitro over Asics. A bit more spring and felt more stable on the patches of grass, gravel and dirt that's unavoidable on my favorite route. But if you liked the Novablast 5 get those again. I still like my very worn Adidas Solar Boost and would buy another pair of I can find unsold new stock. Boost never seems to sag, harden or flatten out, even after the outsoles are worn through.

All Adidas, Puma Nitros, Truemotions and Asics.