Puma - ForeverRun NITRO™ Winterized

I have a slight over pronation accoring to the running shop people. They did an assessment on a treatmill and showed me the video after. I asked about EVO SL and a couple of others and he said I should hard pass those. For long runs they recommended (amongst others)361° Karios 3 - I got them, did a half marathon and they were decent. No issues. I also have the Novoblast 4, Puma Nitro Forever Run WTR and Saucony Endorphin Pro 4. All of them have felt stable to me on 5k to 15k runs and I've had no issues. That's my 2p worth. I don't know what I'm on about really but it sounds like you need to look at a stability shoe until you improve your form/strength - this is the advice I was given.

How is the 2 treating you? Did you have the old one? I was thinking of getting a new pair. I have over 670km in the [original ](https://amzn.to/3JdFxaH)and they're still going very strong! I would definitely recommend them.

I got the puma foreverrun and i can say it is good. Used it in a 21k

Puma ForeverRun, they use dual compound, softer on the inside for good cushioning and firmer on the outside for stability.

I overpronate and I've been using the deviate 3 too. It feels quite stable and is so much fun. My regular shoe is also Puma: the run forever which is a stability shoe with a bit of pep. I have the first version which you can pick up for about £60 and many people say the originally is lighter and better than the version 2.

Are you looking for a shoe to do just fast runs or are you looking for a shoe to do all your runs? And more importantly, did the PT give you exercises? Over pronation is often due to weak hip muscles. But depending on what else you have going on, it might not be “fixable”. Over-striding should be fixed no matter what-that’s going to give you more problems than any shoe can fix. Did the PT give you suggestions for that? The more you fix the mechanical (your gait/stride/strength), the less you need external aids to correct things. Which significantly opens up your shoe options, but more importantly makes you healthier and less likely to be injured. There are very few (zero) “fast” shoes with any kind of pronation control. The Hyperion GTS 2 was the last of its kind and Brooks discontinued it. You may find a straggling pair somewhere, but that’s the only option and I wouldn’t count on it (since the shoe is no longer in production). The Saucony Tempus is a great daily trainer option that can do faster stuff. It’s got super-foam and is very light and energetic for a stability shoe. It is very firm compared to both of the shoes you currently have, so it may not be something you want to run in every day. But it’s a great option. The Puma Forever Run is also a great option. It’s got a nice responsive foam and isn’t too heavy. And the grip is outstanding. It is not as firm as the Tempus, but not anywhere near as soft as the Glycerin or Guide. ASICS GT2000-14 is an another option. The v14 has updated foam (from prior versions) so it reportedly much more responsive than prior versions. It is on the firmer side-likely close to the Puma. Adidas Supernova Solution is yet another options. It’s got a nice smooth ride, it’s the most comfortable of the bunch, it’s got some softness but fantastic energy return. There are other stability shoes on the market: New Balance 860, Hoka Arahi/Gaviota, Topo Ultrafly, Asics Kayano, Saucony Hurricane, Nike Structure, probably some others I’m not thinking of. If you can go somewhere to try these on, you’ll get a feel for them and how they fit/feel to you and your specific gait/stride. None of these are built to be “fast” (in the sense that no daily trainer is built to be “fast” although most runners will find them plenty fast enough). But at this point, there are no shoes on the market that are fast and have correction for over pronation. So if you want a “fast” shoe, you’ll need to work on what you can so you don’t need the pronation control. You’ll probably want to do that anyway. In the interim, there are a few good options out there, but which is “best” is really going to come down to how they feel to you. So if you can get somewhere to try them, that would be best. If not, decide how you feel about firmness and go from there. There are very few bad shoes on the market right now. It’s largely a matter of what works best for your stride and what you prefer.

Oof. Brooks adrenaline is not a fun shoe. Saucony Tempus and Puma Forever Run are both good. Asics GT2000 14 has updated foam (compared to previous versions) and it’s also a considerably more responsive option. As stability shoes go, those are your best options for something responsive. There are other options that still considerably better than the adrenaline (but not as lively as the first three): Glycerin GTS 22, Saucony Guide 17 or 18, Hoka Arahi 8, Topo Aura, and Asics Kayano if you like a mountain of cushion. There are tons of shoes out there in the “stable neutral” category - which can work very well if you don’t have significant overpronation. These are shoes that are inherently stable and provide a good deal of support without explicitly providing medial/pronation control. They typically have a very wide base, heel bevels that guide the foot and a pretty stiff heel cup/collar. The Doctors of Running have a lot of info on this topic. Insoles in any old shoes you like could also work well (although if you truly need stability, I’d steer away from massively high stacked shoes with very soft foam and no stabilizing elements). But honestly-the adrenaline 24 is about the most boring shoe out there. And although Brooks replaced/updated the foam in every other model they make with the newest models, the adrenaline 25 still has the exact same foam from like 1999. Committed to boring mediocrity and riding the name reputation like the Pegasus.

Not any old Skechers. They have a very small, but very good performance line. The Aero Spark/Aero Burst are both really great daily/long shoes. So the Kayano is a very cushioned stability shoe. It’s a very well loved and very reliable shoe. It’s very comfortable. It is not responsive and not fast. The GT2000-14 was updated to use the same foam that is in the Novablast. So it’s considerably more responsive and “bouncy” than its previous versions. It’s much less shoe than the Kayano. So it’s lighter and faster, but much less “plush”. Of those, if you want something more “fun” then the GT would be a better option. If you want something more comfortable, Kayano would be the better option. Nimbus is virtually identical to the Kayano but without the stability elements. It is divinely comfortable but about as fast and responsive as a battle tank. It’s a great option if you want comfort and don’t need stability or have any desire to go fast. Superblast seems to be a bit hit or miss. It’s a nice stable-neutral shoe (it is not a stability shoe, but it is inherently quite stable). It’s incredibly lightweight for its size. It’s also on the firm side so not “plush” like the Kayano or Nimbus. If it jives with your foot strike/gait/pace, it’s a great shoe. If it doesn’t, it’s an extremely expensive shoe that isn’t better (for you) than something that costs half as much. It’s kind of impossible to tell without trying it though. I LOVED the first version and ran tons of miles in v1. I can’t stand v2. It just doesn’t jive with me. Which is fine-not every shoe is great for every runner for every run. But the SB2 is a fairly polarizing shoe (not the most polarizing, but there aren’t many who are “meh-it’s fine” it’s either a deep undying love or the shoe is terrible). If you’re able to find it at a store where you can try it and return it if it isn’t love at first run, then it’s worth a shot. It’s a good shoe if it works for you. I wouldn’t buy it if you don’t have a plan to return/unload it if it doesn’t work. I’d really look at Forever Run and Tempus. Both are very good shoes that are fast, responsive, not a million dollars and are good for a very wide range of paces and people. I’d look at those before Superblast. But if you’re locked in to Asics as your only go-to, the GT2000-14 is best if you ever want to run fast, Kayano if you want to be comfortable. Insoles in any shoe of choice will also be an option unless you’re choosing wildly unstable shoes to slap the insoles into (like Evo SL or other super high-stack, incredibly soft shoes with no stabilizing elements). So if you don’t jive with any of these, insoles into something else will always be an option.

Not any old Skechers. They have a very small, but very good performance line. The Aero Spark/Aero Burst are both really great daily/long shoes. So the Kayano is a very cushioned stability shoe. It’s a very well loved and very reliable shoe. It’s very comfortable. It is not responsive and not fast. The GT2000-14 was updated to use the same foam that is in the Novablast. So it’s considerably more responsive and “bouncy” than its previous versions. It’s much less shoe than the Kayano. So it’s lighter and faster, but much less “plush”. Of those, if you want something more “fun” then the GT would be a better option. If you want something more comfortable, Kayano would be the better option. Nimbus is virtually identical to the Kayano but without the stability elements. It is divinely comfortable but about as fast and responsive as a battle tank. It’s a great option if you want comfort and don’t need stability or have any desire to go fast. Superblast seems to be a bit hit or miss. It’s a nice stable-neutral shoe (it is not a stability shoe, but it is inherently quite stable). It’s incredibly lightweight for its size. It’s also on the firm side so not “plush” like the Kayano or Nimbus. If it jives with your foot strike/gait/pace, it’s a great shoe. If it doesn’t, it’s an extremely expensive shoe that isn’t better (for you) than something that costs half as much. It’s kind of impossible to tell without trying it though. I LOVED the first version and ran tons of miles in v1. I can’t stand v2. It just doesn’t jive with me. Which is fine-not every shoe is great for every runner for every run. But the SB2 is a fairly polarizing shoe (not the most polarizing, but there aren’t many who are “meh-it’s fine” it’s either a deep undying love or the shoe is terrible). If you’re able to find it at a store where you can try it and return it if it isn’t love at first run, then it’s worth a shot. It’s a good shoe if it works for you. I wouldn’t buy it if you don’t have a plan to return/unload it if it doesn’t work. I’d really look at Forever Run and Tempus. Both are very good shoes that are fast, responsive, not a million dollars and are good for a very wide range of paces and people. I’d look at those before Superblast. But if you’re locked in to Asics as your only go-to, the GT2000-14 is best if you ever want to run fast, Kayano if you want to be comfortable. Insoles in any shoe of choice will also be an option unless you’re choosing wildly unstable shoes to slap the insoles into (like Evo SL or other super high-stack, incredibly soft shoes with no stabilizing elements). So if you don’t jive with any of these, insoles into something else will always be an option.

I have puma forever run for Easy AND recovery AND saucony Tempus for faster paces.. both Amazing shoes

If you're going with the popular suggestion of the Puma Nitro, I'd try some on to see if you need to size up. I bought a pair and they were only ever so slighty narrow. Sized up and they were perfect and would definitely recommend too.

I preferred Puma Nitro over Asics. A bit more spring and felt more stable on the patches of grass, gravel and dirt that's unavoidable on my favorite route. But if you liked the Novablast 5 get those again. I still like my very worn Adidas Solar Boost and would buy another pair of I can find unsold new stock. Boost never seems to sag, harden or flatten out, even after the outsoles are worn through.

All Adidas, Puma Nitros, Truemotions and Asics.